Speedrunning is definitely not my thing but I’ll happily revisit a bunch of NES faves! I’ll see if my local GameStop has the physical up for preorder.

I would rather have some new 2D themes for Mario Maker that are based on the 3D games similar to what they did with 3D World

I'm seeing the release through Limited Run Games as more than a business decision as both are owned by Embracer. Why pay a lot to go to a publisher when you can probably do it cheaper with a sister company.

@WhyYouLie sure, because everybody who gets frustrated with capitalism is automatically a communist 🙄

YES! But not for me. I would love to see what people can come up with though!

@stevep ah, yes, and the Mario RPGs aren't Mario, and Links Crossbow Training isn't Zelda, and Prime Pinball isn't Metroid, and Air Ride isn't Kirby.

Let's be real: Nintendo has enough 2D platformer franchises as it is, and as much as I love the genre (it's my second favorite after racing), I think they can do with one less. No offense, though.

@Solabound That's just basic common sense right there. I always take an old crappy phone to festivals just to be sure. Then again can't remember the last time I camped at one! Hotels are the way to go!

It's crazy to me how many people in the comments section are against Mario Maker because they don't know how to navigate the game.

I've found 100 amazing people I follow in game, and I'm always happy to see a new upload from them.

Plus the popular tab has quite a few good levels, and detailed search allows you to filter by popularity, game style, game theme, and difficulty.

There are so many good levels that I continue to get thousands of hours of gameplay out of.

I have yet to complete Hades I for starters let alone try to get Hades II done before that time.

@Angelic_Lapras_King If only I was that handy. 🙂

Considering it's reached 140mil in production still that should be more then enough to break current records sale figures. And a Switch 2 would have to make a appearance sooner or later.

So far away...now will that include Switch 2?

I see a listing from Amazon EU but will not ship to NA.

Looks like July is when it will release in Japan based off of Nintendo everything.

https://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-soundtrack-release/#:~:text=Based%20on%20leaked%20information%2C%20the,label%20Columbia%20will%20be%20publishing.

So, I will be watching for this as well.

@demacho are you a communist?

Wow, that's Peter Marinker narrating — good to hear his dulcet tones after so many years

@amongtheworms Hey, hold on, we're in a comment section!
Didn't you know that commenters and gamers don't know anything about game development?

Honestly I think I'd enjoy a 3D one more than a 2D one. 2D Mario Maker was fine but never really did it for me that much, admittedly.

This feeling... it can't be... I think a Nintendo product... is SUB-PAR?!?
But seriously, as far as I can tell, this is not worth it in the slightest. If every challenge is like, six seconds, what's the point? There might be more to it than that, but still, I'd only get it for a steep discount. Also, the trailer is hilariously underwhelming. It hypes things up considerably, and then just kills it all in less than a second.

There's no point on doing that. Also i think it's kinda risky, to me, Super Mario Maker killed New Super Mario Bros saga that's why Wonder had to do a big job in bringing something unique

This made my day. Day 1 easily.

It seems unlikely a decent 3D development interface could be scaled down to an interface like the Mario Maker games, at least presented the way NIntendo would likely want to. “Dreams” did provide a 3D toolset, but it gets much more involved than MM does and you would get way too much rubbish if they offered the same sort of sharing options.

As much as they gave us with Mario Maker, there was already a ton of things Mario games have nearly always had that were impossible to do with it. Levels routinely had larger set piece areas and mechanics MM didn’t try to replicate. Think of how often in Super Mario World that large slabs of path moved back and forth against each other to create routes that opened and closed and gave you safe spots to wait until the openings line up. Or even all the pendulum platforms that only move when you stand on them.

Now that Wonder has raised the bar even further for level specific gimmicks and physics, a potential Mario Maker 3 would have it’s hands full just trying to come close to providing the full range of possibilities even the 33 year old SMW had. And the way NIntendo stopped supporting MM2 with updates so fast makes you wonder if continuing Maker titles is a high enough priority to them.

I’d be happy to see anything they might do in the future, but I won’t hold my breath expecting they’re preparing to give us new keys to go even deeper.

Time to dust of my Wii U it seems...

3D building requires a lot of tools from the game and knowledge from the player, I think it would be too complicated

Building something along the lines of Sunshine, SM64, Galaxy ecc. seems unfeasible... but maybe if the 3d aspect is more like Super Mario 3D land, which is way simpler, it could be done. I'm imagining basically a very linear level, like a 2d level, with a few blocks placeable in the z-axis but not enough that it breaks the linearity, and a fixed camera (basically the first minute in the first level of Mario 3D Land)

@AmplifyMJ It does indeed. I'm a big fan of Cotton. Cheers for letting me know, I might have missed this review otherwise.

A gorgeous statue of Metroid Prime's Meta Ridley is now available for pre-order via Big Bad Toy Store for the measly price of $599.99 (say what now?!).

SAY WHAT!!!!! I rather save that money for Switch 2 console or two....wowoozer....

@batmanbud2 it’s more of a spin off and not like the original NES
and Gameboy game in any way. Some of us prefer the platformer, what if Nintendo just ditched Mario platforming and make it a shooter? not everyone wants that

If I can get a standard, physical edition, I couldn't care less about the Deluxe edition. Of course I don't oppose the idea of getting one if I can.

The Japanese trailer and website does mention a standard physical version.

@Ooyah

"We just about have enough beer,"

I don't think anyone here would say this! they might say, "We have just enough beer," but the "about" really does make it seem ambiguous, at least!

OTOH i was thinking about it, the phrase "I've heard just about enough!" would absolutely NOT mean "I've heard almost enough, please tell me a little more!" and yet again, I don't know if I can imagine an American English speaker saying that!

really interesting, and the more I think about it, the less I seem to be able to reconcile it.

heres the thing about "all but," and I'll do my best to explain it with two examples, and a sad but true story.

"It's 2001, and Dreamcast has all but completely lost this generation's console war."

(Dreamcast has pretty much / for all intents and purposes / virtually lost the console war.)

"It's 2001, and Playstation 2 has all but exhausted it's considerable sales potential."

(Playstation 2 has sold incredibly well, but definitely has yet more potential remaining.)

the first all but means "pretty much yes," the second means "definitely no."

(edit - same thing with "just about failed," an american wouldnt say this, imo. I personally understand the meaning in context, fwiw)

(edit 2 - I've also seen plenty of people use all but in kind of a third way like "the Dreamcast all but failed to live up to Sega 's expectations," which I understand even less. im this case, it means "definitely did," which is pretty much the opposite of any rational interpretation of the words as they exist.)

@nocdaes Odyssey didn’t feel rushed at all. What.

I don't want a 3D Mario maker... I find the Mario Maker games really, really frustrating to find just plain, good, "normal" Mario levels. The discovery of decent levels is a nightmare - and don't get me started on Nintendo's level codes, like that's a way to share content these days!

What I really want is a 3D Mario made by Nintendo that is good. Not the half baked Sunshine. Not the rushed Odyssey. Not the linear Galaxy 2.

In fact, you know what? Just release that second Mario 64 game. That'll do it.

And then get Odyssey 2 out the door, but done properly this time. None of this unlimited moons nonsense.

If it's something like Mario 3D World, more streamlined and enclosed, it could perfectly well be done. I'm not sure if we would see a lot of good stuff made by players, but you never know...

In any case, I'd rather have a Zelda Maker.

I mean, I would certainly buy it… but I don’t believe they’ll make it. 3D development is much more complicated, and making it easy to use but capable enough to do what people want is a big challenge, and that’s without even getting into bug proofing and dealing with exploits and so on and so forth. I don’t know… I’d love to see it but it sounds a lot harder than a Zelda Maker and that’s apparently too much for Nintendo.

Yes, bring on the hot garbage!

@FishyS @Axecon I would like to see creation tools for making the 2D levels found in Super Mario Odyssey (e.g. levels that wrap around 3D objects, hidden passages, reverse gravity sections, etc.). Basically, I want 3D shapes that I can wrap the 2D levels around.

@Ade117 I agreed, sometimes when I start replaying a 2D Mario game I see very clearly everything missing from Mario Maker, which is nuts since there's already a ton of stuff.

I’m not sure where all these claims that “3D is too hard for the public” are coming from. Why not let people try? I’m a programmer/coder, and I enjoy working on games in my free time, yet I would enjoy a tightly implemented and limited (yet fun) 3D Mario toolset to play around with.

Nah — it sounds like it'll be as clunky and imprecise as the base building segment in Fallout 4. Hell even the original Mario 64 felt like a tech demo for 3D gaming, can you imagine the amount of unfinished, mediocre trash that will clog up the servers?

@Serpenterror the best selling consoles were never the most powerful consoles, and Nintendo knows this. The Switch is proof of it.

No Rad Racer or Tetris? More of the same ol' very played out NES titles? No thanks.

@HandheldHaunter never had anything stolen from my tent, or had my tent ransacked. Then again I'm not stupid enough to take anything valuable that won't be on me or in a locker at all times...

@KayFiOS LOL just a thought. The largest statue I have is the Amaterasu bust and it fits (barely). I think IKEA has larger MALM but of course your stand doesn’t have to be from them. Just wanted to give you an idea to work with. Best of luck! Funny you mention side by side. I have six of them and they are split 2 and 4 and side by side.

Maybe a 2.5 style along the lines of Super Mario 3D World (for real this time) or Kirby and the Forgotten Land. It should be grid-based.

@ThatSneakman there are plenty of tickets still available, it's rarely a sell out (thank god cos last year was awful there was way too many people

@Scollurio I really enjoy those Sega Saturn games of Cotton. Cotton 2, and Boomerang I believe their called.

But will there be a standard physical edition?

When you have to worry about one console you stop bleeding blood money. How else could they show a profit.