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@dleec8 "I am reading what you are writing, but what you are writing is your own opinion."

That's your ignorant perspective. I wrote the legal definition of theft. Copying software, without permission does not qualify as theft. It qualifies as copyright infringement. There are varying degrees of legal repercussions for that.

"You feel that copied software can't be stolen because the actual theft is the potential cost/damage to the "IP" holder. Uhhh, thats your opinion, but okay? "

No, that's the rationale behind why copyright infringement and theft are different. (they are)

"You can't just state your opinion about something and that makes you right."

It's at least more informed than your opinion. You seem to run from the technical definition and stick to pop culture references.

You have yet to cite a situation where someone was charged with "software theft". Instead you took a "news" article that reinforces your views and cited it, instead of an actual legal charge.

@kuromantic I can't say I agree with everything you said, but this statement is probably the best of all comments:

"Even if you think piracy is wrong, the punishment Nintendo is seeking here is in no proportion to the site owner's actions."

@dleec8 You simply aren't reading what I am writing. I am not promoting or defending piracy. I am saying that the copy of software is technically not theft. The cost/damage to the IP holder is the theft. It's real simple.

"You'll be taken to court for software theft."

Please show me were someone was charged with "software theft". Is "dlc theft" a lighter sentence?

@Kalmaro "If it wasn't possible to steal something immaterial then copyright wouldn't exist."

Wrong. It is because it isn't possible to steal something immaterial that copyright exists. Also, your assumption that justice is perfect and/or consistent is blind.

"Since they were providing copies of software that did not belong to them, it means the software was stolen."

That's incorrect. Selling "unlicensed" copies or bootlegs do not make the copies, themselves, stolen. That's not possible. The profits/rights/opportunity is what's being stolen from the IP holders. Unlicensed or "illegal" distribution or does not automatically mean theft. It's real simple.

@Kalmaro your previous comment mentioned theft, which yields slightly different search result than steal, which is why there is inconsistency in this conversation. Also something needs to be "returnable" in order for it to be stolen. I also cited the legal definition of theft which is more fitting, contextually, than your fake application of it.

@dleec8 copied software is literally not "stolen". That was my point.

The concept of theft is not new, people. It requires something to be removed. What is being "stolen" is the financial gains, not the software.

@Kalmaro No, it really isn't. You ignore half of the definition: "with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it." The legal definition as well as the definition from any reputable source includes this clause.

How can you return "stolen" software that was downloaded without permission? There is a reason software piracy has its own name and definition, and is not called larceny, theft, or robbery.

You're pushing propaganda.

@dleec8 Me too.

@dleec8 It is not "literally profiting off of stolen goods". It can be argued that it the are using piracy to steal potential profits, but hypotheticals are difficult to prove definitely. I'm not against the piracy site being shut down. It is in Nintendo's interest to pursue that end, and they have a compelling case to do so.

@Kalmaro Theft is defined as the physical removal of an object that is capable of being stolen without the consent of the owner and with the intention of depriving the owner of it permanently. The saying, "you stole my idea" comes from the understanding that the idea itself was not stolen, but that the potential rewards and/or recognition have been. While the idea cannot actually be stolen, it is a SAYING that communicates the feeling of having had something inappropriately taken away in respect to the idea. People copy ideas all the time. Only when there are rewards at stake, do people get politically and legally competitive about it. The term "stealing" underlines the suffering caused.

Don't redefine theft to benefit your own sense of moral superiority. If you want to cheerlead piracy sites being taken down, you can do it without "stealing" the English language.

@Kalmaro Calling software piracy "stealing" hurts everyone in the interest of comprehending what "standards" are. Copying software is not stealing. Stealing deprives an owner of possession. People who revise and destroy history exist, and in places of power too. It's a political game which puts itself above "morality". This is not a conversation about what is right.

If I, without permission, download copyrighted plans and 3D print a car, will people like you call it grandtheft auto?

"accidental" tweet leads to viral news fervor "coincidentally" decreasing the cost of advertising.

@JHDK I have three switches. I'm doing my part.

It looks like they are including the dlc.

@Heavyarms55 Not so viral like the article here suggests, though I would understand why parents would get upset at educational systems misinforming their kids. It also makes the schools, that the books are in, look cheaper too. It's an obvious mistake and shows the publisher didn't take their work seriously.

@KingBowser86 looks like you will have to navigate locker rooms this time!