Yamagushi

This is a wasted effort. I should have known better than trying to argue this on a nintendo site populated by a bunch of entitlist 14 year olds who are used to getting things free. Fact is this is being implemented whether you brats agree with it or not. It will be on PS4, and it will eventually be on Nintendo consoles. So enjoy your entitled to the world views while it lasts. Cause the free rides over.

@brokenfang Who are you to think you can sell someone elses work? You didn't make the game, you have no rights to let anyone experience it. And as far as the laws go, YOU DO NOT OWN THE GAME, you are granted a license for you and only you to play the game. Been that was since NES.

@theblackdragon You have a legal right to lend the hunk of plastic, not he experience of the game. Its not your experience to give to someone. And you keep focusing on pirated versions origins. In both cases, piracy and borrowing, a game was bought, and the person now playing it didn't pay.

And you all keep mentioning returning the game like that matters. Once you've played it who cares about returning it? If I destroy a pirated copy afterwords it doesn't erase that I played it for free, just like if I return it to the friend it doesn't erase that I already played the game.

"And used retailers require a customer who wasn't interested in keeping the game." Why do you people think, that you are entitled to a "refund" after playing through the game. You got what you paid for, end of transaction.

@theblackdragon Buying a console does not equate to buying the game..

And as for "Piracy vs Game sales" that's not what I said. What I said needs no studies. In both cases somebody played the game who didn't pay for it. No research needed.

@heatbombastic You can buy conduit 2 new for 8$. Why do you need to buy used for more and lose the devs money? http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003GB4UXI/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1369767155&sr=8-1&keywords=conduit+2&condition=new

@kingjoontoon "Ive done it loads of times where ive borrowed off my neighbour, enjoyed the game so much ive gone out and bought the game new." Pirates say the same thing, most people don't but it after playing it for free.

@theblackdragon In the example of this DRM, you still have your bubbles on a disc. And you can still sell your bubbles on a disc. But like you just said, the code isnt yours. So when it doesn't run for the next guy, your rights weren't violated.

@theblackdragon The experience of playing the game is a service, you have no legal right to give away someone else's services.

As for the games, the point was in both cases, someone who didn't pay for the game has access to it, and plays it through without paying for it. It doesn't matter if it's your friends game, or a game downloaded off the internet. Yes both originals were paid for, but not by the person now playing it. It does an equal amount of damage from a financial sense regardless if its your friends game, or someone on the internet's game.

@ueI Downloading a 50gb game takes a long time. Its just a delivery method putting it on the disc.

@nik1470 You didn't pay the developer for Dead Space 1. Just because you bought the sequel it doesn't erase the original lose.

"There are legal precedents with regards to lending, borrowing, trading and reselling your physical personal property." Yup, legally you can do whatever you want with that physical peice of plastic, the data on the disc however is not yours. You may be "offended" by the idea, but it doesn't change the facts, lending your games to someone else allows them to pay without paying, same as piracy, get offended all you want it doesn't change that. Now tell me, if you burned a pirated copy of a game, and lent it to your friend meaning he returns it to you, how is that any different than borrowing a real copy?

@Oscarsome It's greedy to want to be payed for each person who plays the game? Curious, do you get paid for each hour you work, or only the first hour?

@Joshers744 To some degree, but I think its extremely likely PS4 will be doing the same thing, as developers/publishers want this, not Microsoft and Devs/Pubs aren't going to have it on only one system. In which case people will just get used to it. And once they do, I assure you the next Nintendo console will do the same.

"Example two: Wasn't sold by original bioshock a friend handed me his copy and insisted I player it. Ran out after 1 hour and brought a copy." This is the same example used by pirates. And while you may do this, most will play the free copy in front of them all the way through, return it to the friend, and never buy it. If your not BSing, you're a rare case.

@Joshers744 Used game sales return no money to the creators of the content, yet cost a sale. With normal tangible items this isn't a big deal, because there is plenty of incentive to buy new. With games you don't have to continue were the last person left off, like say a used car, you don't get the first "50k" miles back. Imagine if you could reset used cars back to their mint condition state, no miles, no damage, as you can with games. The new car market wouldn't be doing so well would it?

This won't be biased as hell or anything.. Rolls eyes.. Used games are bad for the industry. You don't get a "Used game" you get to play from the start and experience it no different than a new game. Unlike tangible items which wear and tear, and don't give me "the disc does" because if it didn't work you'd return it, you don't expect the disc to only read partially through the game.

@Morphtorok Thats two words.. x_x

Instead of censoring they could always I donno, stop marketing sex to kids.. It's insane how sexually charged some of the nintendo titles I've seen lately are.

The patents on these systems ran out. That's why this and aftermarket NES systems can sell retail. It's not illegal.

You all realize, this is probably nothing more than a tech demo. There is no signs that he has the legal right to make a crash bandicoot game. Thus it doesn't matter if its canceled or not, he would get sued for copyrights.

@ShadJV I'm only on world 2, have 1300 coins, and I'm bored out of my mind with the game already. How do you find coins to be valuable in this? My album is full of stickers just from picking them up, I never need to buy anything.. I was really disappointed when I turned on the game to see everything RPG about it was ripped out, I didn't look much into it prior to purchase to keep the game fresh and exciting. I won't be making that mistake with a Nintendo game every again, and its sad that a Paper Mario game is the cause.