@RetiredR And yet here you are, on a gaming site dedicated to Nintendo. I bet the irony is lost on you though, since your head is so far up your own ass.
@San_D
Then you can't really form an opinion can you? If you're not buying the products, then you can't really say one way or another how the quality is. And if you are buying the products but still complaining about how you don't like them, then that makes you a hypocrite.
@BloodNinja I already addressed it. You confuse "top seller" with "good product". And since you can't bring yourself to actually accept Skyward Sword is a good product for some people, you choose cognitive dissonance to explain away what you can't accept.
@BloodNinja Like you said, you should always assume someone knows something you don't. Have a nice day and I hope Skyward Sword being a top seller on Amazon ceases to perplex you so much.
@BloodNinja But you don't seem to acknowledge at all what this particular Zelda game does well. You haven't even played it and just assume that it's a bad game because of what you heard others say about it. So it is very much about your preferences and that's why you consider its status as a "best seller" as some sort of blight on gaming in general.
You claim to be a levelheaded person who can easily talk about the flaws in your own favorite game, but you refuse to even entertain the idea that maybe other people can see past the flaws in this game and actually enjoy it for what it is. It baffles you so much that this game is doing as well as it is that you even call into question the critical thinking of people buying it.
Brand loyalty is real, there's no doubting that. But brand loyalty doesn't just spring up overnight or happen by chance. You have to do quite a few things correct consecutively to gain the loyalty from the consumers for your brand. And that loyalty can be lost as well but just because you don't see the reason for someone being loyal to a certain company doesn't mean it's wrong. The same way you can acknowledge the flaws of Dark Souls and still call it your favorite game, others can acknowledge the flaws that Nintendo has and still find enjoyment in their games.
@BloodNinja Hardly anyone bought Skyward Sword upon its original release on the Wii, so why would Nintendo even consider this game an option for re-release if they're only going off of if people buy the product or not? And the inverse is also true. Mario Kart is consistently a top seller, but they haven't announced any plans for Mario Kart 9 yet. Why is that?
Also, you mention that Skyward Sword is polarizing and people either love it or hate it. That's true, and the people who loved it were eager to buy it again, but you also have to account for the people who never played the game before that are interested in it. The people who maybe played it but didn't like the motion controls so they bought it wanting to try the new button controls. And also the people whose first introduction into the Zelda series was BotW and now are greeted with another game in the series. All of these factor into the sales of the game. But sales alone don't make a product good, that only comes from a personal viewpoint after experiencing the game firsthand.
It's ok if a game you don't like sales well. That just means you weren't the target demographic. Not every game is meant for every gamer. But let others enjoy what they enjoy and just be mindful of what you say and how you say it. That's all.
@BloodNinja I fail to see how my initial reply suggested I was seeking your justification. Especially seeing how it was a complete opposing view to yours on the matter of critical thinking. It was merely a suggestion to keep a positive outlook for future games that might suit you better and to not insult others for liking and buying games that you don't find appealing.
@BloodNinja But you asked nonetheless. Instead of asking if I enjoyed conversation like you, you went with justification first. I find that interesting.
@BloodNinja It seems you're mistaken. I was responding to your earlier comment about how Nintendo fans don't use critical thinking when making their video game purchases. I never said that critical thinking isn't required ever in any situation, just in this situation about video game purchases.
@BloodNinja "Critical thought"? Gaming is a niche hobby, nowhere close to needing critical thought. If you like the game then buy it. If you don't, then don't buy it. It's really that simple. No need to bash people for liking a game that you don't. That's the beauty of having so much variety, if the latest release isn't your cup of tea, then you can be sure that there will be several more new releases right behind it with hopefully something that fits your gaming sensibilities.
@Harmonie Not everyone who played the original still has the game though, I know I don't. I think the bottom line is, if you like a game you'll get it. Doesn't matter if it's brand new or several years old. Just look at all the people clamoring for Nintendo to put other consoles on their online offerings. Gaming is just a hobby and a very niche one at that. There's really no rational thought that can validate or invalidate a purchase.
@Harmonie You're also forgetting the people who did play this game on the Wii and really liked it and were excited about it getting an HD release. This is the group I'm in. If a game is good, then it'll always be good and people will buy it. What's so surprising or perplexing about that?
I've been playing Skyward Sword non-stop since its release. It's so good and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Just beat Tentalus and I'm about to get the next song.
Also, Coheed and Cambria released a new single, "Shoulders" and I've already listened to it over 100 times. It's a real banger and I love it. Hopefully the new album is announced soon with a release date.
@Devlind Every reveal had some form of ****storm. Except for maybe Banjo, but his ****storm came after when everyone realized he wasn't a good character.
@Devlind No one thought Byleth was the last character getting into Smash Ultimate. They announced a second fighter pass way before they revealed Byleth. Educate yourself.
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@RetiredR
News about Nintendo, a company you don't like. That's ironic. Or maybe just moronic. I'll let you decide.
Re: Nintendo's Stock Price Sees Biggest Fall In Two Years Following Earnings Report
@Vegeta937
It's all good. And I sleep using a CPAP machine so I never get a good night's rest.
Re: Nintendo's Stock Price Sees Biggest Fall In Two Years Following Earnings Report
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Re: Nintendo's Stock Price Sees Biggest Fall In Two Years Following Earnings Report
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Re: Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Players Report Language-Specific Glitch That Ruins The Final Boss
@RetiredR
And yet here you are, on a gaming site dedicated to Nintendo. I bet the irony is lost on you though, since your head is so far up your own ass.
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Re: Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Players Report Language-Specific Glitch That Ruins The Final Boss
@RetiredR
Low quality bait
Re: Axiom Verge 2 Update Data Has Apparently Surfaced On Nintendo's Servers
This is welcomed news. Any word on when Grime is coming to the Switch?
Re: Gallery: Atlus Shares 30 Screenshots Of Shin Megami Tensei V For Switch
So they're going to announce pretty soon that the protagonist is the last character in Smash, right?
Re: Random: It's Masahiro Sakurai's Birthday - And He Got An Awesome Gundam Figure
Hmmm...he did say that he has a figure of every Smash character in his desk....
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@San_D
No, you're right. Everyone is allowed their own opinion. I lost sight of that. My bad.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@San_D
Then you can't really form an opinion can you? If you're not buying the products, then you can't really say one way or another how the quality is. And if you are buying the products but still complaining about how you don't like them, then that makes you a hypocrite.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@San_D
Why wait? Just go ahead and stop giving them your business and then stop coming to this site.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Whatever helps you feel safe, mate.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Cognitive dissonance, right on cue.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
I already addressed it. You confuse "top seller" with "good product". And since you can't bring yourself to actually accept Skyward Sword is a good product for some people, you choose cognitive dissonance to explain away what you can't accept.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Like you said, you should always assume someone knows something you don't. Have a nice day and I hope Skyward Sword being a top seller on Amazon ceases to perplex you so much.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
But you don't seem to acknowledge at all what this particular Zelda game does well. You haven't even played it and just assume that it's a bad game because of what you heard others say about it. So it is very much about your preferences and that's why you consider its status as a "best seller" as some sort of blight on gaming in general.
You claim to be a levelheaded person who can easily talk about the flaws in your own favorite game, but you refuse to even entertain the idea that maybe other people can see past the flaws in this game and actually enjoy it for what it is. It baffles you so much that this game is doing as well as it is that you even call into question the critical thinking of people buying it.
Brand loyalty is real, there's no doubting that. But brand loyalty doesn't just spring up overnight or happen by chance. You have to do quite a few things correct consecutively to gain the loyalty from the consumers for your brand. And that loyalty can be lost as well but just because you don't see the reason for someone being loyal to a certain company doesn't mean it's wrong. The same way you can acknowledge the flaws of Dark Souls and still call it your favorite game, others can acknowledge the flaws that Nintendo has and still find enjoyment in their games.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Hardly anyone bought Skyward Sword upon its original release on the Wii, so why would Nintendo even consider this game an option for re-release if they're only going off of if people buy the product or not? And the inverse is also true. Mario Kart is consistently a top seller, but they haven't announced any plans for Mario Kart 9 yet. Why is that?
Also, you mention that Skyward Sword is polarizing and people either love it or hate it. That's true, and the people who loved it were eager to buy it again, but you also have to account for the people who never played the game before that are interested in it. The people who maybe played it but didn't like the motion controls so they bought it wanting to try the new button controls. And also the people whose first introduction into the Zelda series was BotW and now are greeted with another game in the series.
All of these factor into the sales of the game. But sales alone don't make a product good, that only comes from a personal viewpoint after experiencing the game firsthand.
It's ok if a game you don't like sales well. That just means you weren't the target demographic. Not every game is meant for every gamer. But let others enjoy what they enjoy and just be mindful of what you say and how you say it. That's all.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
I fail to see how my initial reply suggested I was seeking your justification. Especially seeing how it was a complete opposing view to yours on the matter of critical thinking. It was merely a suggestion to keep a positive outlook for future games that might suit you better and to not insult others for liking and buying games that you don't find appealing.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
But you asked nonetheless. Instead of asking if I enjoyed conversation like you, you went with justification first. I find that interesting.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
So why would you assume that others are seeking justification with their comments and responses instead of just enjoying conversation?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Is that how you feel when responding to others, that you're seeking their justification?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
What in my response suggested I needed or was seeking justification?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
The same reason you asked me.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Do you need justification? It's ok if you don't like the game, but do you need others to not like it to validate your opinion?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
No, of course not.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
It seems you're mistaken. I was responding to your earlier comment about how Nintendo fans don't use critical thinking when making their video game purchases. I never said that critical thinking isn't required ever in any situation, just in this situation about video game purchases.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
Why would one exclude the other?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@BloodNinja
"Critical thought"? Gaming is a niche hobby, nowhere close to needing critical thought. If you like the game then buy it. If you don't, then don't buy it. It's really that simple. No need to bash people for liking a game that you don't. That's the beauty of having so much variety, if the latest release isn't your cup of tea, then you can be sure that there will be several more new releases right behind it with hopefully something that fits your gaming sensibilities.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@Harmonie
Not everyone who played the original still has the game though, I know I don't. I think the bottom line is, if you like a game you'll get it. Doesn't matter if it's brand new or several years old. Just look at all the people clamoring for Nintendo to put other consoles on their online offerings. Gaming is just a hobby and a very niche one at that. There's really no rational thought that can validate or invalidate a purchase.
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@Harmonie
You're also forgetting the people who did play this game on the Wii and really liked it and were excited about it getting an HD release. This is the group I'm in. If a game is good, then it'll always be good and people will buy it. What's so surprising or perplexing about that?
Re: Just 10 Days Since Launch, Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Is Already Amazon's Third Best-Seller Of 2021
@Harmonie
If a game is good, what difference does it make how old it is?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 24th)
I've been playing Skyward Sword non-stop since its release. It's so good and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Just beat Tentalus and I'm about to get the next song.
Also, Coheed and Cambria released a new single, "Shoulders" and I've already listened to it over 100 times. It's a real banger and I love it. Hopefully the new album is announced soon with a release date.
Re: Oh, Bird: Check Out Crowsworn, A Bloodborne-y Metroidvania That's A Hit On Kickstarter
@BloodNinja
It's the same thing just Victorian.
Re: Nintendo's Giving You The Chance To Win 15 Monster Hunter amiibo (North America)
I already have, or have pre-ordered, the amiibo I want that are being promoted in this giveaway.
Re: Sakurai Reminds Us There's Only One DLC Fighter Left For Smash Ultimate (Again)
Monster Hunter
Re: Sakurai Says Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter Really Will Be The Last One
@Devlind
Every reveal had some form of ****storm. Except for maybe Banjo, but his ****storm came after when everyone realized he wasn't a good character.
Re: Sakurai Says Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter Really Will Be The Last One
@Devlind
No one thought Byleth was the last character getting into Smash Ultimate. They announced a second fighter pass way before they revealed Byleth. Educate yourself.