@WhiteKnight @SCAR392 I hate saying this because I am a Nintendo fan but when you look at the inside of the system that are basically playing catch up to the HD graphics that developers have been using for the past 6 years. In a way you could say that is quite a let down to many third party developers but until we actually see what the other next gen consoles have in store it is hard to say because as I said the next round of consoles should have a stronger GPU than CPU like the Wii U does. On the other had the CPU of a Wii U is quite a bit weaker than a 360 or PS3 so if Sony or MS even keep the same CPU and just up their GPU a considerable amount Nintendo could be caught on the back burner when it comes to graphic compatibility. Also Pachter isn't bad at his job he is just giving a business answer in a business setting to business men things that the average gamer don't look into.
@WhiteKnight I agree with most of what you say about the Wii U being out performed in the future but when it comes to porting other games from 360/PS3 as of now it is tricky/costly business. As you stated it is very costly for a AAA game to be produced let alone putting it out on a platform the developer isn't sure about. When it comes to companies like Ubisoft it isn't as much of a problem because they have such a large fan base but when it comes to smaller developers it is hard to spend that money. Another problem for Nintendo at the time is that most of the third party content that they are putting out for the Wii U are games that have already been played by many gamers on other platforms and it is really hard to spend Sixty dollars on the same game twice let alone pay full price when you can go buy a used copy cheaper than for another platform. Then there is always the fact of the CPU and GPU it's not that they are lacking it is just a GPU heavier console and developers are not use to that. When it comes to next gen I feel like more consoles will be built this way a heavier GPU supporting a CPU but until that happens it is going to be hard for developers to port games to the Wii U but if all else fails Nintendo has a good handful of first party games, and a lot of old first party titles that fan are begging to be brought back.
i agree with some of the things he said but to say that Nintendo will become irrelevant is kind of out there to me because even if the Wii had low third party support it still sold over 90 million consoles. Even if they are just running off of first party games doesn't make them irrelevant the only other company in the "console war" that has near the first party content that Nintendo does is Sony and most Sony titles aren't nearly as well known or beloved as Nintendo's, not saying Sony doesn't has a lot of quality content some of it just isn't AS WELL KNOW. So consumers will buy other consoles for other experiences that is almost always going to happen as long as there are multiple consoles.
I would have loved to play Killer Freaks it looked like such a different kind of FPS I really wish that Ubisoft would just go ahead and make it as well even if it was just downloadable that game has a lot of buzz behind it.
I'm gonna be honest when it comes to Nintendo I don't care so much for many third party titles I'm in it for the 1st party games for the most part. Now I'm not saying I won't play some third party games for the Wii U but if developers don't end up supporting it as well as 720 or PS4 it isn't going to hurt Nintendo near as much as it might Microsoft or Sony. On another note I feel like Nintendo needs to work on bring back some of their old franchises and maybe work on some new IPs soon because as a Wii U owner I feel like I would have rather had more 1st party games at launch than third party. I'll be honest I play Nintendo to play Nintendo games.
I will be playing nano assault and Nintendoland on my Wii U in the states might jump on some Halo 4 for the 360 and Kid Icarus multiplayer for the 3DS. By the way it makes me very happy to see how open minded this site is to other consoles considering this is a Nintendo based site
@Malic You know that Metroid prime 2 had a multiplayer... Also they could pull a bio shock and have one portion of Nintendo make the 85 hour campaign and another make the multiplayer the have enough people to make a million Mario spin offs a year they should have enough to pull off the best of both worlds not that I am against a new ip I just believe Metroid would do well in that spot but I was just putting it out there as an idea that will probably never happen just saying instead of new ips they could revamp some older ones into something that would work for what they are trying to achieve it worked for Kid Icarus
@Malic I wasn't trying to make it more like halo I was just saying turn it into an awesome online fps ip that can only be played on wii u like halo is for xbox and a centered reticule would be a great thing for the wii u I don't think I would have liked the centered reticule on wii but I in no way think it would be a good idea to "turn it into halo" because in some ways halo 4 turned a little cod and I was not a fan of that! Just keep it very Metroid (grabbing somebody with a wip and slamming them on the ground as a beat down would be amazing) but gain the type of fan base halo has core gamers cause that is what Nintendo is after but I really don't care what they do I'm gonna play the crap outta the games they release for the wii u and most of them are gonna be first party games cause unlike other consoles the wii u doesn't really need games that come out for other consoles nintendo is at its best when developers just have to make something that just works for Nintendo not for 3 consoles.
Okay I lied not done ranting lets be honest I love all of my consles I have a Wii Wii U Xbox and playsation 3 but Microsoft and Sony had to answer to Nintendo but developing motion controls for both of their consoles just like they are trying to with smartglass and vita/ps3 compatablity though Nintendo doesn't always have the best graphics they tend to kill in sales I mean I love Sega and they got killed but Nintendo in the 90s even though Sega was beyond their time so at the end of the day everyone that gets on the videogame race will always grow up hoping to be Nintendo.
I feel like Nintendo need to take a step back from the third party and focus on making some core first party games like an awesome Metroid fps no offense to the prime series but I play a lot of fps games and I think that the keeping a centered ridicule is important give it a great online matchmaking and you have something Xbox has with halo and gears ( you wanna play this game you have to have a Xbox ) they do great things with Mario and Zelda games but they could alway make a 3d third person Kirby or dk like they do Mario and make a new Starfox Fzero Earthbound continue kid Icarus cause that game did amazing things on the 3ds and there's always room for new ips and make a deal with capcom to make a new megaman just for wii u maybe something like legends but in the the original or x world the make an online community for it that plays somewhat like gears okay sorry everyone done ranting!
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Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
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Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
@WhiteKnight @SCAR392 I hate saying this because I am a Nintendo fan but when you look at the inside of the system that are basically playing catch up to the HD graphics that developers have been using for the past 6 years. In a way you could say that is quite a let down to many third party developers but until we actually see what the other next gen consoles have in store it is hard to say because as I said the next round of consoles should have a stronger GPU than CPU like the Wii U does. On the other had the CPU of a Wii U is quite a bit weaker than a 360 or PS3 so if Sony or MS even keep the same CPU and just up their GPU a considerable amount Nintendo could be caught on the back burner when it comes to graphic compatibility. Also Pachter isn't bad at his job he is just giving a business answer in a business setting to business men things that the average gamer don't look into.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
@WhiteKnight I agree with most of what you say about the Wii U being out performed in the future but when it comes to porting other games from 360/PS3 as of now it is tricky/costly business. As you stated it is very costly for a AAA game to be produced let alone putting it out on a platform the developer isn't sure about. When it comes to companies like Ubisoft it isn't as much of a problem because they have such a large fan base but when it comes to smaller developers it is hard to spend that money. Another problem for Nintendo at the time is that most of the third party content that they are putting out for the Wii U are games that have already been played by many gamers on other platforms and it is really hard to spend Sixty dollars on the same game twice let alone pay full price when you can go buy a used copy cheaper than for another platform. Then there is always the fact of the CPU and GPU it's not that they are lacking it is just a GPU heavier console and developers are not use to that. When it comes to next gen I feel like more consoles will be built this way a heavier GPU supporting a CPU but until that happens it is going to be hard for developers to port games to the Wii U but if all else fails Nintendo has a good handful of first party games, and a lot of old first party titles that fan are begging to be brought back.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
i agree with some of the things he said but to say that Nintendo will become irrelevant is kind of out there to me because even if the Wii had low third party support it still sold over 90 million consoles. Even if they are just running off of first party games doesn't make them irrelevant the only other company in the "console war" that has near the first party content that Nintendo does is Sony and most Sony titles aren't nearly as well known or beloved as Nintendo's, not saying Sony doesn't has a lot of quality content some of it just isn't AS WELL KNOW. So consumers will buy other consoles for other experiences that is almost always going to happen as long as there are multiple consoles.
Re: Nintendo Unfolds Paper Mario Visual History
3ds Paper Mario download please
Re: Latest Iwata Asks Episode Reveals How Killer Freaks Became ZombiU
I would have loved to play Killer Freaks it looked like such a different kind of FPS I really wish that Ubisoft would just go ahead and make it as well even if it was just downloadable that game has a lot of buzz behind it.
Re: Rumour: Wii Mini Console Outed By Retailer Release Schedule
I'm gonna stick with my wii that plays GameCube games and my 3ds/Wii u of course
Re: Nano Assault EX Blasting Onto The 3DS eShop Soon
OMG Hell yeah!!!!!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo And The Third-Party Challenge
I'm gonna be honest when it comes to Nintendo I don't care so much for many third party titles I'm in it for the 1st party games for the most part. Now I'm not saying I won't play some third party games for the Wii U but if developers don't end up supporting it as well as 720 or PS4 it isn't going to hurt Nintendo near as much as it might Microsoft or Sony. On another note I feel like Nintendo needs to work on bring back some of their old franchises and maybe work on some new IPs soon because as a Wii U owner I feel like I would have rather had more 1st party games at launch than third party. I'll be honest I play Nintendo to play Nintendo games.
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue Eight
I will be playing nano assault and Nintendoland on my Wii U in the states might jump on some Halo 4 for the 360 and Kid Icarus multiplayer for the 3DS. By the way it makes me very happy to see how open minded this site is to other consoles considering this is a Nintendo based site
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic yeah my life would end... or begin
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic also 3d Pokemon mmo I would have no life!
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic hell yeah playing sections of tloz oot Mario 64 galaxy's sunshine and Metroid prime as maps amazing
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic yeah it would be really fun cause each character should bring something different to the table like smash bros
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic I can agree with that it seems that games are getting shorter and shorter it's a sad thing
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic lol that's awesome my friend and I were just talking about how cool it would be it if the made a spinoff of smash bros that was a fps
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic You know that Metroid prime 2 had a multiplayer... Also they could pull a bio shock and have one portion of Nintendo make the 85 hour campaign and another make the multiplayer the have enough people to make a million Mario spin offs a year they should have enough to pull off the best of both worlds not that I am against a new ip I just believe Metroid would do well in that spot but I was just putting it out there as an idea that will probably never happen just saying instead of new ips they could revamp some older ones into something that would work for what they are trying to achieve it worked for Kid Icarus
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
@Malic I wasn't trying to make it more like halo I was just saying turn it into an awesome online fps ip that can only be played on wii u like halo is for xbox and a centered reticule would be a great thing for the wii u I don't think I would have liked the centered reticule on wii but I in no way think it would be a good idea to "turn it into halo" because in some ways halo 4 turned a little cod and I was not a fan of that! Just keep it very Metroid (grabbing somebody with a wip and slamming them on the ground as a beat down would be amazing) but gain the type of fan base halo has core gamers cause that is what Nintendo is after but I really don't care what they do I'm gonna play the crap outta the games they release for the wii u and most of them are gonna be first party games cause unlike other consoles the wii u doesn't really need games that come out for other consoles nintendo is at its best when developers just have to make something that just works for Nintendo not for 3 consoles.
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
Okay I lied not done ranting lets be honest I love all of my consles I have a Wii Wii U Xbox and playsation 3 but Microsoft and Sony had to answer to Nintendo but developing motion controls for both of their consoles just like they are trying to with smartglass and vita/ps3 compatablity though Nintendo doesn't always have the best graphics they tend to kill in sales I mean I love Sega and they got killed but Nintendo in the 90s even though Sega was beyond their time so at the end of the day everyone that gets on the videogame race will always grow up hoping to be Nintendo.
Re: Analyst Believes Nintendo Shouldn't Compete With Sony And Microsoft
I feel like Nintendo need to take a step back from the third party and focus on making some core first party games like an awesome Metroid fps no offense to the prime series but I play a lot of fps games and I think that the keeping a centered ridicule is important give it a great online matchmaking and you have something Xbox has with halo and gears ( you wanna play this game you have to have a Xbox ) they do great things with Mario and Zelda games but they could alway make a 3d third person Kirby or dk like they do Mario and make a new Starfox Fzero Earthbound continue kid Icarus cause that game did amazing things on the 3ds and there's always room for new ips and make a deal with capcom to make a new megaman just for wii u maybe something like legends but in the the original or x world the make an online community for it that plays somewhat like gears okay sorry everyone done ranting!