Sonic Origins Plus Will Apparently Fix Some Pesky Bugs

I hope that at least the bugfixes would be a free update. While the Game Gear games and playable Amy are DLC.

@Hydra_Spectre yeah, the fixes are free, thankfully. Yikes, imagine hiding game fixes behind a paywall! That’s terrifying

I want the original sonic 3 soundtrack back. Ice cap and launch base zone new themes are cheeks .

But will it fix the terrible Jun Senoue renditions of Carnival Night Act’s 1 & 2? There are higher quality, cleaner, more complete versions of the prototype music for the Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base zones.

@TheBigBlue Back in the olden days, some games only had the bugfixes from buying an expansion pack (basically a DLC you had to buy as a separate physical release).
Hell, Sonic the Hedgehog 3 was quite buggy on release, and the Sonic & Knuckles expansion cartridge fixed its bugs.

Even when games had downloadable patches back then, many people only knew these patches from the expansion packs when the Internet wasn't that widespread, and when downloading even a dozen megabytes took forever.

I doubt it will because I haven't seen it mentioned, but I'd really like for the expansion to include the option to play Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles separately as well as connected.

I'm glad I waited for a physical release of SOP. For the price of $40-ish, or higher, I'll usually only pay for a new digital game, only if I can't find the physical version.

Still needs:

• Master System games
• Sonic 3D Blast
• Sonic Spinball

Sonic 3D Blast kinda sucked, but there was a Director's Cut made by the original developer and released as a mod, should get an official release.

@victordamazio 3D Blast was a must. So disappointing (that it wasn’t included)!

@NinChocolate Sonic 3D Blast is already available in the Sega Genesis Classics Collection and it basically was available on every Sega collection under the sun. I had like 5 collections that included the game already.

• Sonic Mega Collection (GameCube)
• Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2, Xbox)
• Sega Genesis Classic Collection: Gold Edition (PC)
• Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (PS3, Xbox 360)
• Sega Genesis Classics Collection (Switch, Steam, PS4)

Let's hope that means the dodgy physics are patched.

My Sonic game gear collection has been Sonic Adventure DX on the GCN for the longest time so I'm happy to finally have the collection on a newer console.

I'm guessing (and hoping) that this will include Sonic's tendency to go a lot faster than intended in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which I especially noticed in Hydrocity Zone.

I hope they release a new physical edition with all of this. Been holding off until they fixed the bugs.
Sonic 3D would be a dream to replay.

@victordamazio The Game Gear games are functionally identical to the Master System games, just with the screen zoomed in more. I hope they include display options that would replicate the Master System versions, but I doubt they will. As for Spinball and 3D Blast they're both on the Sega Genesis/Megadrive Classics collection and Spinball is also on NSO.

@PinderSchloss Already confirmed that Origins Plus is getting a physical, just like Mania Plus

30 year old games needing bug fixes is so pathetic.

@bonjong23 Yeah you'd imagine a re-release/remaster would fix bugs in the originals overlooked, not introduce new ones the original didn't have.

Need that original Sonic3 music before I’m interested

@Serpenterror but that's the Genesis version. They still haven't re release the Saturn version

@stereobread
Except they're not functionally identical. There are level design differences.
Jungle Zone Act 2 has the deadly scrolling floor on SMS but not on GG.
Bridge Zone has a different terrain layout for the boss fight - sloped bridges on GG, platforms with gaps on SMS.
Labyrinth Zone Act 2 Chaos Emerald is in a different position - on SMS it's in a bed of spikes that requires you to reach it with invincibility (or to get hit and lose your rings), while it is more easily reachable on GG.
There are also differences caused by the screen crunch - Green Hill's boss is always low enough to hit him on the GG, making him a joke, while on SMS you have to wait for him to drop low enough.

Needs Sonic R. I genuinely love that game.

How about a Sonic Frontiers Plus that replaces the final act of the game so it doesn’t feel like you’re suddenly playing a leaked prototype with bizarre creepypasta elements?

The biggest bug is no stand-alone versions of Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles!

This "plus content" should have all been present from launch

@Hydra_Spectre
I think in some games cases too it was specific versions which had bugs, such as with twilight princess on wii apparently the launch copies had a bug which if you saved in a certain area you were trapped in a room and pretty much had to restart your game, iirc this was fixed in later copies and i think the gamecube one.

i remember super paper mario on wii having a crash bug during a certain part in the European version specifically when speaking to a certain character, at the time i didnt know that you didnt need to speak to said character and thought i was unable to progress, i forgot if that one ever did get fixed in copies that released later, and while not a bug specifically there was an infamous case of one of the mario parties having a line changed in the european version for later releases since it had a word which turned out to be a lot more offensive in places like the UK than it did in the US.

was definitely an odd time when it came to things like game fixes.

I still haven't bought this, I am still just so pissed at Sega how they can screw up anything they try to do, this kind of crap just drives me nuts it's been like a year since it was released and they still haven't fixed a lot of the bugs. Why? Because SEGA DOES NOT CARE ABOUT QUALITY. UGGGGGGG SO FRUSTRATING.

@90sRetroGaming And the Super Sonic music. I can live without MJ's tracks, but for the love of Light Gaia, make it so it actually sounds like a Genesis and not a reject of Sonic 4.

@NatiaAdamo While not the greatest, compared to the botch job on three specific zones Senoue ruined with his versions, I can live with the new version of the Super Sonic Theme. The sound front should have at least been in vein of what was used for Sonic 3, though.

@victordamazio Spinball is trash too bud.

@Serpenterror great information there. I had that genesis collection but called Nintendo for a refund due to the lagginess. Maybe a future collection will once again contain the game and take some pride with the emulation. Just my personal wishes. I really love playing 3D Blast

@ga3tr0n The original release doesn't include them as a separate option to play them? I held off with all the bugs but now I'll definitely not purchase it.

Well that’s more something to look forward to first and foremost for me. This collection deserved far better than it was on launch. Now I just wish they’d do what they did with Mania and create an option for us to enable sound test options as features rather than requiring us to re enter them. Even better, let us have the Mania save menu (based on Sonic 3) with options on a per save basis. Having Amy is nice and all. But I want this to really be the best classic collection possible.

So what it should have been over a year ago at launch?

@Pink_Floyd Sadly not. It boggles the mind!

If it included the Master System versions of Sonic games then it would be an instant buy for me. Am also not happy with the Sonic 3 music being changed so am going to have a think about this one.

@EarthboundBenjy
there was also the dreaded underground zone boss in which aside from the usual screen crunch making the fight harder it decided to add the additional annoyance of making those bounding balls bounce at varying heights which made the whole thing feel really unfun on gamegear, having that as the games first boss is one of the reasons im not a fan of replaying that version.

Bugs squashed.

Wish they would fix it so we had the Master System games instead of the Game gear ones, they are exactly the same except the Game Gear is so zoomed in you cant plan you routes