The Forgotten City - Cloud Version Is Out Today On Switch

Cloud versions should be free. You're not owning anything so you shouldn't owe anything.

Wait i thought normal version coming on switch not this garbage?

I'm not sure, but is this the first we heard about it being cloud based? Might be me (and it usually is)

Bummer, and I was looking forward to this game. No more!

@Clarice You don't own digital downloads either, so by your logic, those should be free too. 🙄

Pro Tip: If you were really THAT excited to play games like this, why would you not buy a platform ahead of time that got these games on a regular basis and didn't get them in a severely stripped down form as is to be expected on a console like Switch

Switch should've been at the absolute bottom of your priority list if you were that excited specifically for Control, Hitman 3 or this, just saying. It's really not that viable for the AAA third party stuff compared to either of its competitors

@TheFrenchiestFry agreed. Jim sterling has multiple videos on nintendo fans having a habbit of overhyping themselves about things that are out of reach or could be avoided being overhyped for by just thinking logically.

However, seeing how this used skyrim as a basis I do think in this specific situation it wouldn’t have been far fetched to see ir expect it running on a switch nativily.

@TheFrenchiestFry

Perhaps because some don’t want to buy multiple platforms and toss around money for ridiculously expensive systems.

If it is a Cloud version, I would at least hope its very stable to play. I know the PS4 version has been heavily criticized. So considering this game no longer actually runs on Switch’s comparatively weaker hardware and I have no access to it on the go (at least not without a really good internet connection) I should at least hope not to be miffed by aspects that would otherwise come up a bit often on Switch.

This looks right up my alley, but I’ve been giving the cloud games a pass so far. I may try the tech demo, but it’s hard to put $30 on this.

Very bizarre that this game is suddenly cloud-based. This is indeed the first mention of it being a cloud-based game, the only information available regarding its Switch release before this announcement was that it was slated for release by Q3 2021. It's not exactly something the Crysis-capable Switch can't run, can't think of any obvious reason for why it would be anything but the full fat game. Shame, as it is a very well done game with a cool historical setting that is realistic but charming and whimsical at times (the VA's Latin mispronunciations are unintentionally funny, as well, adds a whole other layer to things. "Salvvvvay!" "Avvvvayy!"). I assume the developers went with a cloud option to meet a deadline. Hoping they take the time to release a native version at some point down the road, and publish it physically, if possible. It's the kind of game that belongs on the Switch.

well thats...dissapointing

Shame, i enjoyed the original mod and was looking forward to this but as it is cloud based i will have to pass

@EVIL-C downloaded means it's copied to the system storage. Storage that you own including the data on it. A cloud version is just streaming content for a limited time.
Not the same.

@Clarice Not true. If you actually read the fine print, one does not own the data they buy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/you-dont-own-your-digital-movies/amp/

https://www.pcmag.com/news/lawsuit-reminds-us-we-dont-own-content-purchased-on-amazon-prime-video?amp=true

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/softwarelicense/

"1. GRANT OF LICENSE. The Software is licensed to you, not sold. SIE LLC grants to you a limited, non-exclusive license to use the Software for personal use on your PlayStation system."

It doesn't matter how you feel about it, this is the legal truth. Sorry.

@EVIL-C spoiler: your physical game is also a license granted to you, you do not own the software

I was excited untill I read the cloud part.
Such a shame.

@Eel exactly. However there is a big difference having the content on a physical storage. As long as you keep it private it is yours to use in the way you see fit.
That is the crucial difference.

@Eel Yes, obviously. That's not a spoiler to one who's informed. One can argue they own the case/disc/card, but not the software.

@EVIL-C The point is, that those things you mention apply to physical media as well. You see, you're kinda trying to misrepresent the nature of traditional digital download games.

Once you buy them and download them, then they're practically no different from physical games. Perhaps they have a slightly shorter "shelf life", being somewhat tied to the service that distributes them, but you should realistically have them for a long long time.

Comparing streaming to normal downloads, would be like, for example, if you bought a physical cartridge that can only be played in the demo unit at the store you bought it from (and also they could remove the demo unit at any point). Your ability to use your license is much more limited.

Not that I think streaming games should be free, or that you don't own a "license" to the game, though. It's just not that comparable to downloaded games.

I still kinda question the cloud version - it's one thing to need elaborate optimization and compromises to accommodate a newer and more gluttonous open-worlder, but when the game is indeed originally a mod of an already ported Gen 7 game and sounds like mostly a challenge of time and manpower for an understandably smaller dev [team]... wouldn't it be better to just shelf the project till better times?

Then again, it's still the devs' call - if they wanted The Forgotten City here on Switch and now and completely as-is, so be it. But I'm probably not in the market for it - none of the game's value and acclaim will be easy to experience first-hand if they're only available as a stream in the resolution our Minsk mobile internet remains borderline allergic to. Moving on, then...

@Eel I said nothing of shelf life. You're seeing something that isn't there. I never implied any of that. Don't be a dishonest actor. The original idea that a cloud version of something should be free is very silly. Netflix should be free under that logic, since that's all cloud-based movies.

@EVIL-C uh huh. Please refer to my previous comment for any further input on the matter.

@Eel No need to.

Would like to see the sales figures on these cloud versions - wouldn’t go near them and struggle to see any sort of appetite for them but someone must be desperate enough to buy them

We're not far off from physical games going the way of physical movies. That's the future.

I've been checking just about every day for news on the Switch release of this game - can't say I'm not disappointed it's just the cloud version. Is it a really demanding game?

I still have plenty of games I haven't played, so it's not a high priority, but if it comes to Game Pass later down the road, I'll be sure check it out then, the Skyrim mod was loads of fun.

Really hoping other Switch anticipated releases like Kingdom Come: Deliverance don't end up being cloud-only also. I just like playing portable mode in airplane mode to save battery life, that's really all it is. I want to be able to play the game whenever I want regardless of if I have wi-fi or not.

I actually noted this down during some indie E3 presentation but was lamenting it wasn't for a console I own. Look how the turn tables!

Urghhhhhhhh cloud version. Just stick it on a cart and charge and extra fiver. I’ll happily pay. Defeats the point of having it portable if you need a constant broadband connection

First cloud version game I’ll probably never support as it doesn’t seem too graphically intensive for the Switch as it runs on Unreal Engine; was probably a time pressed issue, but would rather either have it get canned, delayed, or maybe the cloud release with a potential native port in the future.