If you're a sucker for a few of the classics in the gaming sphere, you'll probably know the sting of looking up some obscure little gem like Doshin the Giant and getting whiplash upon seeing the price. Rare games are just worth a lot, it's just the way it is, right? Well in Japan things are a little bit different, and collecting old Nintendo gubbins is not quite as financially daunting as it is in the West.
In the video above, our very own lovely Jon Cartwright takes a look at the situation abroad and shows how feasible it is to find games for sometimes as little as a tenth of their North American or European price tag. It's not entirely straightforward as we've explored in the past, but suffice it to say things just aren't as crazy over there as they are over here.
Have you had any luck yourself sourcing the classics for less from way over in Nintendoland? Let us know in the comments below.
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I've been buying exclusivly Japanese when it comes to retro stuff for almost 10 years, never looked back.
The problem with buying Japanese games is that then the game is in Japanese.
Terranigma is affordable in Japanese, but ludicrously expensive in PAL. But this is a game where being able to read is very important. ...
I think, from a pure playability perspective, the best solution is to purchase fan-made reproduction cartridges. I got myself a repro PAL Terranigma and enjoyed a full playthrough recently, no probs.
Note that you do have to be aware of bootlegs! Only buy reproduction cartridges from people who are completely up-front about how their product is not the original release.
Because bootlegs designed for scamming are not guaranteed to work properly - I have a bootleg Shining Force Resurrection of the Dark Dragon GBA cartridge that has audio problems every time I save.
I have lost interest with retro collecting. I barely have time for modern games. 😬
Thank god I finished my collection a couple of years ago. I wouldn’t be happy to pay the prices some of these classics are going for now. Lots of people being ripped off and repros are common now as well. And I’ve never been interested in Japanese games because of the language barrier but respect to the people who do - lots of games don't need you to understand Japanese.
I've bought a lot of games in Japan and it's a great deal. It's become more expensive now than it has been in the past - first time I went to Japan in 2005 they were giving games away - but you can still get deals on Yahoo Auctions or less popular shops. So, I'm a massive hypocrite with what I'm about to say.
But I have mixed feelings about encouraging importing from Japan to save money. Individuals buy from Japan but I've also seen game stores buy in bulk from Japan to stock their shelves. I can see that causing prices to increase in the future, and shortages of games in Japan - Japan being just one country can't supply product for the entire world.
Also, it's incorrect to say that PAL games are inferior or run slower. PAL games are either optimised for 50hz, meaning they will run at the correct speed (like DKC, Super Tennis etc.). Or, PAL games are not optimised for 50hz, meaning that the actual rom is the same as the NTSC rom but the console plays it slower. Unoptimised PAL games played at 60hz should play correctly, exactly the same as US or Japan games. I use a modified SNES that can switch speeds but if Jon used a cartridge adapter to play PAL games on the Super Famicom, they should play at the correct speed (or too fast if they are PAL optimised). The games don't run slower; the consoles do.
Indeed. One of this year's hobbies for me has been to import SFC and FC games from Japan for cheap and apply translation patches (or the English language SNES/NES ROM directly) to an EPROM, replacing the original MASKROM. Mother 2 and Mother were some of the first l tested the process with. Other games like Super Metroid, F-Zero, or Gradius 2 for the Famicom are already fully English. My next project will probably be Yoshi's Island with the "no crying" romhack patch. I already have the PAL version, but can't stand playing it 🙂
Mega Man X3 - $300
Rock Man X3 -$25
And getting super famicom carts to fit into a US SNES is extremely simple. Just make sure you look up the process before you do so.
It's not common but some Japanese games actually have a full english option as well. Japanese Super Metroid, Super Smash Bros Melee and the DS Phoenix Wright series comes to mind.
Once you get to a certain age or a certain point in your life when you are happy without material things you come to realise that collecting is a waste of time and money.
If you want to play all the games, get a modded psvita or something.
Retro games are free, my dudes.
@syrupdash
one silly example is Puyo Pop for GBA. The JP version's English setting is actually entirely different from the English seen in the localised version. When set to English, the JP version inexplicably says "BABA BING" when a player loses. In comparison to the "OH NO!!" it says in the regular version.
It also gets some character names wrong, such as referring to Carbuncle as "Cakkun". Weird stuff.
I used to spend so much time in game and retro game stores while I lived in Japan. Between Akihabara in Tokyo and Nipponbashi in Osaka I was basically in heaven. So much fun to be had and so easy to burn a paycheck or 5. XD
Are there many collectors in Japan? Seems everyone here is lol.
@Tandy255 I've lost interest in retrocollecting mostly for the prices...
If I have to pay 200-400/500€ for an old game then no thank you, I'm fine playing them in other ways.
I picked up a few bargains when I was over in Japan in 2011, I wish I'd taken an extra suitcase so that I could have brought more home lol
In the mid 2010’s I was addicted to looking for cheap Famicom titles on EBay. Crossfire complete and mint in box $35, Crisis Force complete $80, Famicom cart lots $10-35. I realize this is gloating but at the same it was absolutely wonderful to see the catalog of Famicom exclusives and experience them for the first time. I feel in love with a ton of games that I never realized existed the first time I loved the NES.
It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon.
The stigma of last year's model is quite something else. You should look up houses and how people buy houses, demolish them only to rebuild with relatively similar specs.
It's just what they do.
Never been much of a collector, but I do play old games, and in most cases I’ve been able to pick up the games I want from Mercari (Japanese eBay without the bidding) for ¥500-¥1000 yen. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Giftopia, Advance Wars 1+2 and Doshin the Giant each cost less than a bowl of ramen.
Definitely seems like less of a cutthroat collectors’ scene than in the west, maybe because there are on average simply more of each game per person available.
The prices were better a few Years ago.
They got a bit up when it has spoken around that you can get some good ones for cheap there...and with every Article as this one the rise more
So get what you want as long as you can haha
While I haven't bought anything directly from Japan, I've gotten a few Japanese games for less than what people normally ask for their American counterparts, and in that regard I don't really mind, but if I ever come across American versions in acceptable conditions and a decent price, I might bite.
Regarding the discussion of the language barrier, it really depends on the game. I mean, I don't need to know Japanese to play Mario Kart 64, Smash Bros., Bomberman Hero or the Ouendan games, but for an RPG, the Pokémon Stadium games or those quiz games (that one may occasionally see on Game Center CX) it is necessary.
In the case of the Pokémon Stadium games, I'm trying to make diagrams of the Pokémon and their attacks so I can know who to choose.
The only Japanese games in my entire collection I cannot play because I don't know the necessary language are Shiren the Wanderer 2 and Pikachu Genki de Chu! (Hey, You Pikachu!). The latter also because I don't have a Japanese VRU, which is necessary since the American one won't work.
To a certain extent, I can't play Doubutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing 64) either, but because I have experience from the Gamecube version I kind of know what to do.
EDIT: Another one I have but cannot play is Mario Tennis GB, but I can work my way around it. The real obstacle for that is that I'm not used to Tennis games with a D-Pad, thankfully I have a Game Boy Player.
@andykara2003 Same here.
I finished my GBA/DS/3DS collection about two years ago.
as someone who has lived in Japan the last 11 years, I can say without a doubt that foreign interest in Japanese retro games has not only caused prices to increase to insane levels for certain games, but it has made retro much harder to find overall. Stores like Super Potato and Surugaya and various ebay sellers buy up as much cheap stock as they can, then jack the prices up selling them to non-Japanese gamers. When I came here, you couldn't give away a PC Engine for $20 (boxed!) But now they're $1000l+ loose with mix and match parts. Nobody cared about Super Metroid, it was a $7 game at most. Now it's $45 - $65, and it's not Japanese gamers who are buying this, it's foreigners. Eventually there will be more Japanese retro outside of Japan than there is inside it.
❗The only three 🇯🇵 Games I've bought are 'Super Sentai' ones which we know as 'Power Rangers'; One on the DS and two on the 3DS.
I got those as I'm a PR fan.
Speaking of retro, what are the chances of getting dragon force ported to the switch??
Genesis/Mega Drive games are very expensive over there.
If all weebs are not Japanese and most Japanese are Japanese; that creates a near zero weeb to non-weeb ratio resulting in reasonable prices on weeb goods.
Zero Mission has almost no story text.
When you earn upgrades, the Japanese version even says the name in both English and Japanese.
About the only thing you'd miss is the item descriptions.
The surprising thing is that the Japanese version of Fusion is actually an upgraded version, as it was released three months AFTER the US version.
Fusion pretty much handholds you the entire way, and prints on the map where to go, so you could PROBABLY play through without being able to read.
Thing is, since the JP version of Fusion is later and rarer than the western version, I'm surprised if it's not more expensive. (I hear JP sold about 100k copies, whereas English sold at least 800k I think I read. Not sure if that is US or all western releases. But either way, that is telling.)
I'm finally getting my Nt Mini (and Super Nt), so I'm going to scour the FC/SFC section of my local Book Off store for some stuff.
Hey great, Alex & Jon - drive up the gaijin-pricing in Japan even higher now. 🤦🏻♀️
I shouldn’t be sassy, though. I don’t really collect retro games anymore. I bought enough to last me a lifetime while living in Osaka and working in Nipponbashi (Den-Den Town) when e-commerce was in its infancy. Multiple shops with endless shelves stuffed full of reasonably priced old games, even 200 yen bins, like it was the Atari shock days!
If only I spent more on games and less on laserdiscs! 😅
Let me fix that headline for ya
"Because the wage gap in Japan is kept in check though aggressive taxation, social pressure, and legislation, it is almost unheard of to have generational wealth that is so extreme that 1 person has more money then 10s of millions of people combined. Because of this, collectables prices are not inflated by people who literally have so much money it is impossible to spend it."
This isn't unique to retro games. They also don't really have a scalper problem except in extreme cases.
@HamatoYoshi How old are you out of interest? I see you were on the C64 side? I was a Spectrum owner.
Collecting FC and SFC has been a downright pleasure. You can still find a lot of good condition and in box games as well as systems. Family Basic is just amazing… too bad it never made it to NES
Unlike here in the west, where the retro gaming business is beginning to resemble a money laundering scheme.
@andykara2003 I’m 46, I used to collect but not anymore, I broke that cycle of wanting material things to make me happy.
@HamatoYoshi Nice one, same here. I almost got rid of my collection at that point but realised it might be a rash overreaction. Now I enjoy the games for their own sake but am free of the compulsion of collecting. In fact it was the first time I could really enjoy the games for their own sake. Did you get rid of your collection?
@andykara2003 im the same, I just enjoy games to play these days. I sold my entire collection, lots of rare stuff including a Japanese Saturn with a full library of games, all stuff like that. I also used to collect the Medicom / Hot Toys figures, Star Wars figures, Garbage Pail Kids……. they all went too.
It all coincided with a house move to Cornwall, I now live 5 minutes from the beach and spend most of my time outdoors with my little dogs. Gaming tends to take place in bed in the evening now. I only own a Switch and a modded PSvita and buy digital 99% of the time these days.
I thought I’d regret selling everything but it was the opposite, it was a nice feeling to not be trapped in the cycle of endlessly spending money on stuff that simply sat on shelves, although it is a hard mindset to break, when you’re surrounded by this stuff you don’t want to let it go.
@HamatoYoshi Oo that’s tempting me to sell my stuff then. I put it on hiatus for a while but that sounds perfect. I just almost broke my arms moving house with a whole room full of CRTs and other stuff. Definitely feels like a weight in my life..
@andykara2003 once you’ve done it you won’t look back. I definitely don’t regret selling everything…..I also enjoy the memories of the older games as many don’t stand up to the test of time these days.
Just nice to have been around in the 8 bit / 16 bit golden age…..arcades, gaming magazines, terrible home conversions, £1.99 budget games, import shops etc. I think gaming now is a shadow of its former self but that could also be me looking at things with a nostalgic view. This year I’ve even toyed with the idea of giving up gaming for good but the Switch is just so good, even this morning I was on Amazon and they had PS5 in stock, years ago I would’ve bought it without hesitation but now I can happily resist that temptation and not think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Thanks for the insight, I’m turning 50 soon & feel that my priorities are changing. Sounds like you’re embracing life & made a great decision, I might do the same. I’ll keep it all for a bit longer to be 100% sure but I have a feeling it’ll all go before too long.
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