Back in the '90s, it seemed that the Japanese got all the best stuff. Not only did games typically launch sooner in Japan, they came in gorgeously-illustrated boxes complete with full-colour manuals, putting the rather drab western equivalents to shame. Not only that, the Japanese were blessed with many games during this era that were never localised, making them even more desirable. As time has gone on, the allure of such vintage gems has only increased, and the arrival of the internet and sites like eBay has driving the cost of ownership through the roof; with only a finite number of these games available, logic dictates that as more collectors snap them up, the price balloons.
I consider myself to be a veteran of the import gaming scene. I got my first Japanese console - a shiny new Mega Drive - for Christmas in 1990, and from the first moment I laid my eyes on the amazing Japanese cover artwork for titles like ESWAT, Strider and Thunderforce III, I knew I'd been bitten by the import bug. While I dabbled in western releases for text-heavy titles, I spent the next decade focused almost entirely on Japanese hardware and software, the high cost of which ensured that each new system would have to be sold before I could afford to purchase the next. This pattern continued through the Saturn, PlayStation and N64 era, right the way up to the arrival of the Game Boy Advance and Dreamcast. Since then, I've largely relaxed my stance towards new systems and have bought only locally-sourced consoles – but my retro collecting habit remains almost entirely preoccupied with Japan.
Anyone who has been following retro gaming for the past few years will know that prices are rising all the time. The internet is a wonderful tool as it allows us to gain access to a wide selection of items from all over the world, but with that comes increased competition, and that means the amount of cash someone is willing to pay for a particularly rare game increases. eBay is now packed with people selling retro games from the 8, 16 and 32-bit eras, and the days of getting a bargain sadly seem to be at an end; sellers are so clued up on what things are worth that they often over-value items instead, making it even harder to pick up classics on a budget.
There are plenty of people selling games direct from Japan on eBay, but many of these sellers are aware that western buyers will pay a premium for import stock and as a result the prices are slightly inflated; after all, it's not possible to walk into your average video game store in the west and pick up Japanese games on the cheap, so buyers usually don't have an issue with paying a little more for the privilege.
However, I found myself wondering: is it possible to order directly from Japanese auction sites which are aimed at Japanese gamers, cutting out the eBay middle-man? Turns out it is – but there's a bit of leg work involved first. Japan doesn't have eBay, but Yahoo Auctions is essentially the same thing. On this site you can find a lot of common Japanese imports selling for less than they are on eBay, so I decided to find out once and for all if I really could make a saving by going direct.
The key to this method is a site called Jauce (which stands for "Japanese AUction CEnter"), which bids on items on your behalf. Any items you win are sent to Jauce's warehouse in Japan, and you then pay to have them mailed to you anywhere in the world. Jauce makes its money by charging you a fee for each winning bid.
After creating an account, I first had to load it up with credit via PayPal – a process which takes seconds. Once my account had funds I could start bidding and buying. Just like eBay, Yahoo Auctions has "Buy It Now" listings where you can purchase the item outright without waiting for the auction to end, and that's the method I chose for all of the games I purchased.
Browsing Yahoo Auctions for games is a sometimes daunting experience, as the sheer volume of retro available is incredible. For this particular experiment I decided to focus on unboxed Super Famicom cartridges. Common titles like Street Fighter II Turbo, Tiny Toon Adventures and Muscle Bomber cost around 300 Yen each, which is approximately £2 / $2.70. Jauce then charges a fee on top of that figure, which is 400 Yen plus 8 percent of the total sale price, plus a 300 Yen banking charge for each transaction. You are then charged the delivery fee to Jauce's warehouse in Japan, which is usually quite small - around 130 Yen (80p / $1.17), if one is charged at all.
When you tot up all of those charges, the average price per common Super Famicom game is, on average, still lower than you'd normally pay either in the west, or when ordering a game from Japan via eBay – but you could argue that you only save a small amount per sale. At the higher end of the scale, things become a little more interesting.
The most expensive game I purchased via Jauce was Akumajō Dracula XX, better known in the west as Castlevania: Dracula X / Vampire's Kiss. This was being sold on Yahoo Auctions unboxed, along with a copy of Akumajō Dracula / Super Castlevania IV for 5,780 Yen (£39 / $52). Add onto this the 400 Yen fee plus the 8 percent charge (863 Yen) and the banking charge (300 Yen), and the total cost is 6,943 Yen (£47 / $62). The seller didn't charge postage in this particular case. Head over to eBay, and sellers are asking more than that for Dracula XX on its own, while Akumajō Dracula tends to sell for around £20 to £25.
As you can see, there's clearly scope for modest savings here, but the key to really making the most of the Jauce service is buying in bulk. Shipping to the UK cost me 3,950 Yen (£27 / $35) plus a 540 Yen packing fee (£3.70 / $4.80), and in that package there were seven unboxed Super Famicom cartridges. I probably could have ordered twice as many and not been charged any additional postage; another Jauce user I spoke to, Sean Tagg, says that a "medium" package has enough space for around 10 Super Famicom boxes, and I was only ordering loose carts. Jauce will keep your items in its warehouse for 60 days following their arrival, giving you plenty of time to buy up other items and then ship them all in one go. Jauce sends you an email every time an item has arrived in its warehouse and ordering a complete shipment is blissfully easy.
The service is straightforward to use and delivery was pretty swift, too – so is ordering direct from Japan the way forward for retro collectors? The number of fees which get added onto your base auction cost might seem intimidating at first, but if you use services like Jauce in the right way you can make quite a significant saving. I picked up seven Super Famicom titles which, had I sourced them from UK-based sellers or from Japanese eBayers, would have cost me much more. The key thing is to make sure you buy in bulk rather than a single game at a time, as you'll end up losing out on shipping costs. As you can see from the photos below, the box Jauce used to mail the carts in could have taken a lot more games, so I potentially missed out a bit.
Another considering is customs charges, which may (or may not) be an issue when ordering from Japan, depending on where you happen to be in the world. I was slapped with a £30 / $39 charge when the item touched down in the UK - add that to the initial cost of the games, the admin fees applied by Jauce and the international postage, and it means that overall, I didn't make quite as big a saving as I'd expected.
So, in conclusion, there's certainly merit in ordering your Japanese retro games straight from Japan via services like Jauce, but it's not as simple finding one or two cheap carts, sending funds via Paypal and feeling smug about the savings; you need to buy in bulk and at least budget for some kind of charge when the items reach your home country. If you're comfortable with both of those things, then you'll be like a kid in a candy store.
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Well, that's good to know!
Too much trouble for me though.
In terms of proxy services, I think Buyee is cheaper for Yahoo Japan Auctions. Their AmazonJP proxy fees are fairly decent too. Jauce seems way overpriced.
I'll take a look,got certain sellers I use on eBay who deliver for free.
I just came back from Japan a few months ago. The flight was dirt cheap and I had a gorgeous hotel right in the midst of everything. It might just be worth it to plan a trip there and enjoy the sites, Sounds, food, and everything else .... buying retro games would be a big bonus. Even used game stores had DS and Vita games for under $3 CAD.
I had to give up this particular hobby a few years ago, but the itch is still there...
I just go for repro cartridges now. They play just as good as an original but are alot cheaper. Like right now I can get a repro of Castlevania Bloodlines for $20 compared to the $60+ for an original.
@Yorumi Wow! Memories! I melted my tabs off with a soldering iron. Smooth... like buttah'
I've placed a dozen or so items from Japan over the years. Got Hagane (SNES) for a 1/3 of the then-US price, but everything else was JP exclusive. For single (used) items, I've never been charged by US customs, never had a bad deal, and usually the stuff arrives surprisingly quick (7-10 days).
@Yorumi
Ok destructo. Or just use a crappy game you dont play. I personally don't like breaking games or consoles in my collection. Resell value and appearance and all that.
@Yorumi Something I never thought about but do those batteries explode like normal AA, etc. Batteries?
Niiiiice! Obvious problem I can see... is the games will be in Japanese...
@Priceless_Spork dude breaking off those plastics does nothing to the system and you'll never see it. Lol. It takes 10 seconds too!
@adam9431
I just came back last week. Just how cheap is dirt cheap? I had a big problem with my return ticket...
@EVIL-C It was less than $600 CAD return to Tokyo and back
@Kobeskillz
I don't care if you break your games. I was just showing you how you can have nice things with better resell value. Resist it all you want. Break em. Do it. Your games are broken mine arent.
Some people actually break their systems to get these imports to work. It's your game. It'll work, but mine isn't crappy likes yours is. And sorry you can't take more than 10 seconds, but if you do you can keep your stuff nice.
@Priceless_Spork
Back in 1990, when we were breaking off tabs, we werent thinking about building a collection or resale value of a system we already knew we'd "keep forever". We just wanted to play certain games a year ahead of when it would be released locally. Its one of those things where you had to live through the time in history to appreciate the moment. My guess is that you werent around at that time. Or at least of an age to make those decisions and ability to make the changes yourself. I could be wrong but I doubt i am. I don't recall a single one of my gaming buddies (and I had numerous) ever saying that they wouldn't mod their SNES because of resale value. We all did it because back then, Japan was the mecca for the best games a year before anywhere else or, even if ever! Many great games were never localized. That's all that mattered to a gamer in the feeding frenzy of a new age of gaming fresh off the previous NES gen of consoles. For many, THAT was the first time they had seen a significant increase in fidelity in their games from one console gen to the next - so the frenzy was very high. For others, like myself, it was only the 2nd (to include Atari 2600, its iterations and classic arcade) but no-less awe-inspiring. So you kinda had to be there to appreciate the sense of urgency to get more, better, quicker. If you had to melt or break off a couple of internal tabs to get it, no biggie. You were never going to part with the console anyway! (And I never did. LOL!)
@Priceless_Spork
I'm a collector, but I collect my stuff me me not because of the potential resale value. I would never sell my stuff, I don't really care what it's worth.
The tabs on the SNES are barely noticeable, an average person wouldn't even know they had been removed unless the knew specifically what to look for. But on the flip side, I acquired 4 SNES systems in an auction lot a while back and sold them off, I got more than average for them because they could play Super Famicom games.
There is also an adapter you can buy so you don't have to remove the tabs or take a game apart. But nobody really cares about the tabs.
Huh. I import a lot of books but I never really though of video games too. This is a great idea!
But hopefully you know how to read Japanese because without them RPG's are a pain to play through.
Btw, my sister and I have F-Zero, Dragon Quest 1 and 2, and Mario RPG for Super Famicom, and somehow we still never figured out that importing was an option. lol
try doing that with
@Priceless_Spork But then you can lose track of games if the boards are swapped around (and that's possibly how crap like GameStop shipping Chrono Trigger carts with Madden inside happens), should your collection end up being sold someday.
@ogo79 I ordered a cart-only, years ago when it was still reasonable. Though from a different service. This article feels sponsored, since this is far from the first service to do this. (the earliest I heard of was celga, in the late '90s/early 2000s)
@Yorumi
Also, I bet you can get a little bit of extra money by advertising it as "modified to play Japanese games".
@KingMike
lol i remember when you got that game.
my memory is pristine.
i even offered to buy it from you.
so i bought my own about 4 years ago i think
Of course it is.
I collected a whole lot of N64, Saturn and GB/GBC games from Japanese shops with oversea shipping, and for real cheap too. Stuff like CIB Pokemon Red (10$), Mario Kart 64 (2$) or Tamagotchi Park with backup memory cart (3$). And that's only the tip of the iceberg.
The only thing that sucks is the shipping cost (EMS and nothing else, the post office lost my SAL package once, never gonna go economic/standard ever again) and the shipping time (especially if the custom office holds your package). Other than that 10/10, would buy again. I personally recommend Japan Game Stock shop (SEGA games) and Japan 4 U (Nintendo).
By the way - some games, which are crazy rare, will be expensive even in Japanese shops, naturally. Stuff like Super Tempo for Saturn still sells for around 14 000JPY (~400 USD)
I love the customs charges in the US. Mostly because they don't exist.
OMG!! this was so easy!!
I just ordered Final Fantasy VI! and it cost less than the price of a meal.
(^_^ )/
I'm going to import everything!!
@Priceless_Spork Not everyone cares about resale value. I get my systems to keep them, not so I can just sell them later.
@Priceless_Spork
Please accept my appolgies if I dont believe you... Yes, we knew about cracking open an import game and local game and swapping the PCB out back then. But the proprietary bits needed to unscrew the cartridges apart were not readily available to most people at that time. So we had to literally crack the carts open and that in itself was even more destructive. And the fact that you got your bit off ebay means that you have only been doing this at the most since the millenial.
You're getting a lot of pushback from people because you are basically calling us dumb@$$e$ for doing soemthing during a period of time that, I believe, you have no frame of reference. And its not "breaking" anything. They were physical tabs on the inside of the system that you never would see, that served no purpose other than blocking cartridges that had no matching socket from being fully inserted. Even if I HAD a bit to swap out PCB boards without destroying the cartridge it was a pain in the butt to do that for every game every time i wanted to play it. The easiest way to enjoy your games whenever you wanted and to see the real label staring back at you was to break off 2 crummy tabs. So before you call people idiots for doing something harmless, think it through and see things from other peoples perspectives.
@Priceless_Spork
I'm not trying to pick a side or anything, but I did have a quick question.
Do you swap the insides of the game to a cartridge with the same title? So like, move Zelda: Triforce of the Gods into a Link to the Past case?
I'm just curious because if you are, then you're not saving any money because Link to the Past is way more expensive than Triforce of the Gods and sort of defeats the purpose of the article (and you might as well just play Link to the Past if you have it).
On the other hand, if you're just putting them into any case you have lying around doesn't it bother you that the case doesn't match the contents? I feel like, from a collector's point of view, that would be even more annoying than buying a SNES without the tabs.
@Yorumi
yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, I would much rather have a PS2 that has been messed around with a lot to play imports than to have a disc without the case or manual.
And, also, I unfortunately don't have the money to buy english SNES games, especially of rare RPGs. (T_T )
Some might say that's what roms are for but, if I can, I would rather play the actual game with the actual controller on a tv.
@Priceless_Spork That's the only reason I buy retro games and console. So I can smash them and break them thus driving up prices. It worked wonders for my buddy @Ogo79 retro rare collectible game sales.
@DarkmarkUnited Granted,they werent for games likr Zelda but you could find a ton of cheap games used in amazing condition
@DarkmarkUnited
and, funnily enough, I've found that in general Japan takes better care of their stuff than Americans. lol.
So if you buy online used and a Japanese seller is describing their product as "Very Good" it's like the equivalent of an American describing their product as "Like New".
I mean, so far I've only seen this with books, but this situation has been so consistent I can't imagine it not also being true for video games.
@Priceless_Spork The tabs thing is so much easier though!
I currently have to keep fighting the urge to buy original famicom carts. I've got most of the games I actually want and can play (like the Mario games, Duck Tales, Kirby, Akumajou Densetsu), and I even have a few translated ones (the Fire Emblems, Lagrange Point, Just Breed), but there's something about those multi coloured beauties that keeps me coming back for more! Like how I don't have a blue coloured cart so I must have one! Damn you Famicom, damn you!
@Priceless_Spork lol. Cutting off the plastic tabs from the snes is not "breaking" my system or games. Lol.
@Dang69 noooo it will never work and the system will be horribly deformed!!! Lol.
Hooo....
Jauce....
Thanks for the information.
But, usually I order Japanese games from Ebay with very reasonable or cheap price.
@Tasuki
you better be careful out there
@adam9431 I lived in Japan for 3 year and I'm planning a trip for next year, with my wife. Hotels were very expensive while I was living there, 20 years ago, have that changed? They usually were like 200-250 per night for an average room, and the high-speed train tickets (shinkanzen) was also very expensive.
@maceng my hotel was about $155 CAD per night in Shinjuku and the hotel was very nice . . . It was even during the cherry blossom festival so I thought it was an amazing price. I do have expensive tastes so maybe my perspective is different than the average person ..... for me, $155/night is dirt cheap, considering my average cost for hotels are close to $200/night
@adam9431 That's an excellent price! From what I recall, Japanese seldom lower their prices seasonally, like in the United States or in my country (where you can ask and "fight" for discounts -warabiki-). It's an excellent price: I paid 270/night (afterwards received a 15% discount, because I stayed more than a week) at a Hotel in the middle of NY city, so 155 in Shinjuku is a steal.
I just wanna go back because of the food: I've traveled to Europe, South America and several places in the USA and I'm yet to find the delicious food of Japan (Peru cuisine came close).
Anything is better than eBay.
@Tasuki
If you are going to pirate use an everdrive. A repro of a rare game is worth no more than the parts in the pcb/cart which is like $10.
@cleveland124 Yeah no, sorry the only way you can get games for any Everdrive is if you download ROMS which is illegal.
Great tip, I'll have to try this out.
@able_to_think
LoL. Seriously & thank god!
@Tasuki
And how do you think those roms get on those repro carts? You can't really think that's a Nintendo licensed cart and you are supporting a legitimate business. A pirate downloaded a rom off the internet loaded it onto a cartridge and sold it to you. You are a pirate my friend. Paying money for illegal items doesn't make it legal.
@cleveland124
"A repro of a rare game is worth no more than the parts in the pcb/cart which is like $10."
Absolutely right since it's not the real thing. That's a very astute point.
@Priceless_Spork The very simple reason... not sure why you don't get it... is because there WAS no other option in 1990 through, I'd say 1994 or 5 when there started to become available the tools to take apart cartridge cases cleanly and even adapters that you could plug into the cartridge slot and then the import cart (which were usually pretty loose and not of high quality). If you were around then, you'd know this. There was no ebay back then. There wasn't even the internet. Just like TWO import companies at the back of EGM magazines and Gamefan where you had to send money or call to place an order. The process was very slow and risky. We're talking weeks to get your order, in not months (or ever). And they didn't have these things till probably mid 90s. So, no real solution when we did it or, at the very least, not worth the hassle.
And the reason you're being dogged is because of your approach dude. Look at your earlier posts. You where basically calling those of us that did this mod back in the day morons. Just the fact that you don't know how this mod - it's just ONE mod you do to your SNES once - wouldn't ruin your system tells me you never heard of it, which leads me to believe you weren't there. So you don't know what it was like. Which is why you can't appreciate why we did it. Pretty simple. I'm going to drop the subject because the group is probably sick of the topic now. I wish you peace and happy gaming!
@Priceless_Spork The procedure consists of snipping two cm scale plastic squares which are attached to the plastic case inside the console where they will never be in view. It can be done very cleanly with sharp tools and is very widely considered to be an enhancement. No one is attacking you, we are just disagreeing with your idea that this lowers the value of the console when in fact the opposite is true. We are also claiming that this is easier and more aesthetically enjoyable than playing games in cart cases with labels that don't match.
@Priceless_Spork I love how you complain about @Yorumi being condescending (He wasn't, by the way) and yet your very first response was "Durrrrr I'm gonna break it huh huh." Please. Give me a break.
The reality is, if you play with your console at all, it's not in pristine, expensive collection territory anyway. There are different types of collections. My collection is for playing. I have 3 SNES consoles. One is a SNES Jr. I modified for RGB out. Did I ruin it by modifying it? Of course not. Actually, it's worth more now - same with my modded N64's and NES. But I'll humor you for a moment, and lets pretend I destroyed it and it's worth exactly $0 now to anyone other than me - Who cares? I get far more use out of that modded SNES than I would have an un-modded console, and it is much more valuable and useful to me now.
You keep saying you don't care, yet you were the one that was completely obnoxious from the start. That, and your "solution" required opening a cart and swapping the innards every time, which is not seriously an option if you play a lot of SNES games.
@adam9431 Damn... 😱 Mind if I ask how you got it so cheap? Mine was 1300. 😭
@EVIL-C I used a site called Momondo
@cleveland124 For you information the guy just Rom Dumps them himself. It's no different then him making me a copy of a CD. Call it what you want to justify paying obnoxious prices created by scalpers and greedy collectors.
@Tasuki
I didn't realize I could copy Nintendo roms and sell them for a profit but playing said roms was wrong. I honestly don't care what you do. I have a large collection and an Everdrive. I just think if you are going to claim moral high ground you should actually be on moral highground. All roms online are dumps and no it's not legal to copy cds and sell them.
@Tasuki
Although I have to say people that play roms online do less damage to the industry than people that buy conterfeits. Many people here have been burned paying $60 for a game they thought was authentic and wasn't.
@cleveland124 Just got to know how to do it. The guy I get the repro games from goes out of his way so people can't pass them off as authentic ones. Like putting "reproduction cartridge" on the label itself.
@Tasuki
Sometimes reproduction labels are labeled really tiny and people don't notice it. Some people could buy those to change the labels to an official looking one. Labels are prone to tearing. Even with precautions there is a significant risk those carts rip people off in the future whether from someone intentionally being misleading or not. Not legal anyway and in no way better than using an everdrive.
@cleveland124 Guess you didn't see this
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/07/flash_carts_could_be_slowly_killing_your_retro_consoles
@Tasuki
Extremely unlikely. My snes may stop working someday just from pure luck as it's pretty old. At that time I'll just buy another since they aren't expensive and they are worth owning. While on the subject though most reproduction carts use eprom chips which have a finite 10-15 year life before it loses it's data. There is also several articles about repros hurting your console if you are into some sensationalism.
I use Buyee often to get things off of Yahoo Auctions when things are cheaper to buy than on eBay.
In fact just last week I picked up Japanese copies Akumajō Dracula XX,, Akumajō Densetsu (Castlevania 3) and Symphony of the Night all complete boxed for £70 including fees and shipping. I feel smug.
I also buy stuff from Japanese sellers who ship to the UK. Been doing it for years.
Surprisingly, the most entertaining part of this article was the comment section.
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