Farming
What, you thought we wouldn't judge a farming game on the strength of its farming?
Harvest Moon: One World
Having (sort of) praised One World's variety of locations, we're about to undo all of that by criticising One World's fussy farming. Many crops can only be grown in certain seasons, in certain areas, and that's if you've even got the right seeds, and they don't mutate into a different crop. All of these inputs make it really hard to just... grow crops, because half the time you're in the wrong place, and half the time you're in the wrong time. What's more, they've done away with crop quality, so there's no actual progression. A tomato is a tomato is a tomato, all the way through the game.
The farm sizes are limited to the specific location you're at, and each field has a predetermined size, with no chance to expand or hoe new plots. Some of these farms are pretty small, and others are pretty big, but need clearing of boulders and stumps, which takes an upgraded tool that you might not have. At least sprinklers exist, so you can have multiple farms across the map, and only need to check in on them when they're ready to harvest.
The animal husbandry part of farming is oddly limited for a farming game: you get one barn for both chickens and livestock, and you can upgrade it twice to double and then triple the space. Three cows/sheep (etc.) and five chickens is what you'll have for most of the game, though, and there doesn't seem to be an auto-feeder, so... hope you like refilling a trough every day! However, the game has done away with milkers, shears, and so on - all you need is to press 'A' next to the animal.
There is a wide range of animals, mostly in the wild, but most of them are pets or mounts (and mounts take up space in your barn, too), which do very little beyond looking cute or transporting you around the map.
Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town
There are three unlockable areas in Pioneers of Olive Town (including the one you get at the start), which increase in size pretty drastically. You can farm wherever you want, and you can have a bunch of barns, coops, stables, and upgrades for each. You'll need to leave a lot of room for Makers, since that's the main way of making progress in this game, but there's plenty of room, so it's no huge deal.
The range of animals is impressive, and what's more, every new season (at least in the first year), wild animals will appear on your farm, and you can tame them and add them to your livestock for free. This includes Buffalo, Goats, Rabbits, and Sheep, all of which give you new materials. You can build Silos and Auto-Feeders to make caring for your animals much easier.
Like One World, Story of Seasons also no longer requires milkers or shears to gather the various items that your animals produce. The products you get will go up in quality as the animal's friendship metre increases, but you'll have to get into breeding eventually, as it's capped at 3 stars until you do.
WINNER: Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town!
Once again, it's no contest - Story of Seasons is a farming game that focuses on the farming. One World seems to have stripped back the farming to add in crop mutations and the new mechanic of having to find seeds across the world - both of which make farming harder. Story of Seasons may be a little fiddly here and there, especially when it comes to planning out your farm's layout, but at least the farming is good.
Mining and Fishing
For anyone who's ever picked up one of these quote-unquote RELAXING games, there sure is a lot of tension involved in mining and fishing, the two minigames that are usually included. They're staples of the genre, and a game can make it or break it on the strength of its mines alone.
Harvest Moon: One World
There are three mines, spaced out across the world, and a number of fishing locations.
The mines start off as small areas with ore in them, which you can hit with the hammer to get the ore, but get increasingly huge and maze-like as you progress downwards. Rarer materials are found on lower levels, but the mines will let you skip straight to any level you've already been on which is a multiple of 11.
Fishing is a little confusing at first, because the various fishy shadows in the water would imply that the fishing works like it does in Animal Crossing games: aim the bobber in front of the fish, and wait until it notices. However, the fish shadows have nothing to do with actual fish - you'll have to cast the line, wait until a new fish shows up out of nowhere, and reel it in. The minigame involves waiting until the fish gets into the green area on the on-screen horizontal bar, and pressing A once.
Both mining and fishing are adequate, but uninspiring in Harvest Moon: One World, and it's a pain to travel to the mines, given that they're nowhere near the fast-travel points.
Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town
The mines in Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town do not let you skip straight to levels. If you want to reach the bottom of the mine, you'll have to do it all in one go. Unlike One World, this is a challenge beyond just portioning out your stamina: there are moles which will pop up from underneath you, draining your energy.
The further down into the mines you go, the more difficult these moles will get. Luckily, you can give them a few bops with the hammer to defeat them. Otherwise, it's a similar story: the further down you go, the rarer/harder to mine materials you'll find.
Fishing is competent, if unexciting: the fish marker will go from bottom to top to indicate the progress bar of catching it. There's an energy metre, which you won't want to deplete, or you'll lose the fish. The bar being green means slow energy depletion, red means fast energy depletion, and blue is almost no energy depletion at all, so you'll want to be reeling it in when the bar is blue.
WINNER: Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town!
The fishing is of a similar standard in both games - although Pioneers also lets you put out nets which passively catch fish for you - but the mining is where One World falls down. Its mines are too big, and too labyrinthine to be fun. Pioneers also offers the extra challenge of avoiding or fighting moles. Both are not as intricate as mining has been in past games, though.
Comments 64
No, you should not.
What ever you do just don't buy Harvest Moon
If I was forced to play any of these two, Story of Seasons is the only actual answer here since it's the true Harvest Moon. However, I'd rather just play Rune Factory 5, whenever that comes out.
Very helpful comparison.Let's play Stardew Valley 😁
Support XSeed and Story of Seasons! Easy choice. They are the real developers of the games we grew up with. XSeed even made us the remake of Mineral Town (Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town), and it shows that they are the true IP creators.
Natsume is just using the Harvest Moon name and banking on people's ignorance of not knowing what happened legally with XSeed, Natsume, and the "Harvest Moon" trademark. Nowadays, Natsume's games might as well be classified as mobile games priced like AAA games.
This was a really fun read! Thanks for the laugh.
That actually read like an in depth review of both games and not just in a comparitive way. Nice work!
I feel like downloading one of the other Story of Seasons games on the Switch actually
When can I get a game where I get to be a rancher of Lovecraftian horrors (while trying to maintain my sanity)!?
THAT is a farming/ranching game I would play. . .
. . .oh, and I'd also play Stardew Valley.
@LEGEND_MARIOID yep, I felt like I didn't get to cover everything in the two reviews I did! Which means I've written collectively almost 10k words on these two games
I bought both for my partner and she was let down with harvest moon earlier in the month, received story of seasons today and she says its much better than harvest moon so far even without the character portraits. Tbh watching her play may have released my inner farmer self and give it a try before monster hunter comes
Both of the new games are abymsal. Story of Seasons a little less so, but that's faint praise considering One World is almost unplayable.
Summary:
Harvest Moon is trash
POOT is ok, I guess
(Hehe, POOT)
Thank you for this article. I have played a few of Natsume’s Harvest Moon games and they are bad but sometimes have a couple of things that make it fun, but this one and the previous one for Switch look terrible and they’re charging full price. As for Story of Seasons, I have been bored with the series for a long time. Rune Factory has interesting characters that talk about different things regularly but the Story of Seasons character have been flat and boring for a long time. Animal Parade was the last game to have good characters IMO.
Anyway I won’t be buying either game. Stardew Valley just updated and added new content.
Rune Factory 5
Correct answer: Wait for Rune Factory 5
Neither will stick with stardew valley. These two company's should be ashamed when one man is doing a million times better job with stardew.
Will get rune factory 5 when it's out if it's not awful.
I will pick BOTH of them.
BOTH of them.
Ralph, Jack and Emilio from Olive Town + Braden and Kanoa from One World are my future husbandos.
I will never pick Rune Factory 5.
I do not like at all the character design especially their eyes, disturbing blank stares.
Nice article. Thanks!
@ATaco honestly
The only reason I could understand getting POOT over RF5 is it seems RF5 won’t have gay marriage which sucks. I’ll just play as a dude and be a bit sad like usual.
Both sound bad in their own ways.
Great article! Hey, @KateGray or anyone who knows, I've read in a few places about needing about a hundred makers in PoOT. Without giving too much away, are all these really needed at once? If I'm satisfied with my wardrobe or don't care to upgrade my house just yet or don't need to turn milk to butter, can I minimize the makers? What's the smallest count you can keep and still accomplish things at a competent pace?
@Burning_Spear The biggest ones to keep on hand are lumber and ingots and you should have several at a time unless you don't care about making ample supply at the same time. The others can be kept in storage bin (or not made) until you need them. I currently have 6 lumber makers and 4 ingot makers in addition to other kinds, so it can slow the game down by having so many out at once but I just deal if i need to make a multitude of supplies at once
@ReaperX That was my take away too. Pass on both of them and play Stardew Valley.
Neither, Stardew Valley left both series in its dust
@ShikabaneHime13 Sheesh, I remember when this game had a butter maker and mayonnaise maker and that was it. Makers are neat, but this seems like too much of a good thing.
Both of these games look like they're horrible and a slap in the face to any long time fans of either series. I've always been into Rune Factory and - excepting the first gamec - I have played through them all, whereas I could never get into any of the HM games - even the ones that seem like they're critical darlings (like "It's a Wonderful Life").
Both games have some of the most unispired, lazy graphics I've seen from major titles on Switch - ranging from mobile quality at best to borderline N64 at worst.
The lack of decent dialogue - especially in Story of Seasons - is almost unforgivable. I wouldn't expect much from HM, but how do you take a game where getting to know the townspeople is half the fun and taking away what makes it so fun? Unacceptable.
Rune Factory 5 looks very promising - barring horrible reviews, it's a day one purchase for me and will almost certain top anything either of these two compost heaps ever will - however, even that game has me a bit concerned. The environments look surprisingly barren - even inside of the buildings - and, combined with generic looking character models and menus - it doesn't look noticably better than Tides of Destiny which is disappointing. Even Rune Factory Frontier had a better art aesthetic to it imo.
That said, I'm not a graphics-wh----e and I eagerly loom forward to playing it. As for these two games? No. Just no. Stardew beats both of them by almost every measure.
The only answer is obvious: wait for Rune Factory 5, and enjoy some Stardew Valley in the meantime.
Rune Factory 5 is the answer.
The answer to this question is Stardew Valley
Or My time at Porta
Or Doraemon story of seasons
Or LittleWood
Or Marenian Tavern Story: Patty and the Hungry God
Or Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
Or if you are somehow done with ALL of them ... the answer is admitting there is such a thing as playing too much framing games
I’m quite liking Friends of Mineral Town, especially the HMDS throwbacks and Easter eggs, so it’s disappointing to see what POOT turned out like. Hopefully RF5 is great.
Just buy Stardew Valley. You won’t be disappointed
Should you pick Story of Seasons or Harvest Moon?
You should pick Stardew Valley.
I feel like this article pretty solidly answers the question of "can we have too many farming sims?" I'm pretty glad there are other options. Olive town might be worth playing in a couple of months, until then, at least Sandrock will probably hit early access soon...
@Stenaven lmao they are both trash
I didn't expect a big article like this. Kudos.
Although from the test I've seen, fake harvest moon wouldn't be worth your time as a freeware and story of season is a bit boring and sometimes a chore, so none of them for me.
I'll take option C: Stardew Valley
@HeadPirate I totally agree. I find it a little frustrating that nobody is talking about Littlewood in particular. It’s not perfect but it’s such a refreshing take on this genre and deserves more recognition.
Wow. This is how you know NL is legit. Their main advertiser is Harvest Moon, and yet they rip on it for 4 pages.
There is another option, Re:Legend by Magnus Games, published by 505 Games.
I still surprised NOBODY here ever know Re:Legend.
In Re:Legend, you can farming underwater, having evolved monsters like Pokemon, choose 1 from several jobs available, upgrade your stats, attending the Festivals, etc.
@Anti-Matter
People certainly know about Re: Legend, you're just not going to hear about it here because it isn't on a Nintendo system.
@CovidBarbie
Re:Legend will be released on console version on Spring 2021 according to their Twitter.
Natsume needs to get bent and quit hogging my old good looks.
Olive Town needs overall development additions if it is to remain popular with players. I really want to love this game, but it is just too dang easy.
Everybody says Rune Factory 5. But I watched the trailer, and it doesn't even seem to have anything to do with farming. Looks more like a Final Fantasy.
Going against the majority here.
I've been playing Harvest Moon one World for nearly a week now.
I'm loving it.
I dont have much spare time on my hands right now so I quite like the simple gameplay mechanics, the colorful world, the catchy tunes and the cheesy jokes.
I feel progression is quite quick and there is a lot to do in one game day. Quite good if you have a spare 20 minutes here and there in real life.
It's not perfect but it does not deserve the low scores its getting at the moment. I have played many titles that have received high scores and much praise only to left disappointed and failed to see what reviewers rave about sometimes.
Its a matter of taste I supppose.
I'd give it a 7/10.
I have not played Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town.
I might eventually but for now I'm happy with Harvest Moon One World.
What ever you're playing have fun and stay safe everyone!
Wait. Sydney is Laura’s mom?
Laura’s Mom has got it going on, she’s all I want and I’ve waited for so long...
I keep bouncing between waiting or going ahead and getting Olive Town. Let’s plays look good but I feel like the controversy is gonna tank the price. Maybe I should buy something else on my list...ugh first world problems.
@Ryu_Niiyama I flip-flipped on Olive Town so many times, from "must preorder" to "wait for a sale" and back again for months now. Finally ordered it yesterday because I couldn't stand missing out on the little buffalo plushie.
You're probably right about the sales, though. I wouldn't be too surprised if I saw this at half price later this year.
@JasmineDragon see, I want the plushie too! It will go next to the strawberry cow. But that means it’s a 10 dollar plushie.
I have to go to Best Buy after the comic store anyway so depending on how much money I have left that will decide for me.
This whole fiscal responsibility thing sucks.
I think the safest bet for me is to let Pioneers of Olive time have a few patches and see what some of the DLC brings to the game.
If they do a decent job of fixing it up, I'll then drop the cash but right now, I'm not in a rush to spend 50 quid on a game that needs more work done.
Played HMOW and Story of Seasons is coming any day now, guess i'm just a glutton for punishment despite all the warnings XD
meanwhile Littlewood is still backlogged for me and I know that will be a gem when I get around to it at least.
@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah it does! This season is brutal. I went way over my usual limit this month. I'm going to have to skip some things coming soon.
@JasmineDragon same. I’m already canceling preorders just to shift my budget. That’s why I look at folks when they are like “there’s no games on Switch” and I am like “where? Please tell them to stop!”
I’m just staring at the clock now...waiting on stores to open.
I'm not even sure if I should buy this game. I got Story of Seasons, which was originally a 3DS game, and for the 3DS, it does look great (Knowing that the 3DS wasn't really 'THAT' Powerfull. Not as much as compared to other handheld such as PSP, and PSPvita, which became a marketing flop later on.), but the PC version of Story of Seasons is just that, Game ported to PC with the 3DS Graphics, which on PC and on UHD/2K Resolution, looks... Weird. And the movement is pretty janky too. Sooo, I hope that stuff is fixed.
Damn, I just got back into Stardew Valley in a big bad way (taking a break from ACNH), and with Littlewood just having been released, I don't think I'll have time for yet another farm/life sim...
@JasmineDragon ok I couldn’t resist the plushie. Starting my farm tomorrow.
story of seasons has better diversity in characters? are you sure?....dont look like it to me
Never understand why people put Rune Factory in the same category as farming sims. The farming in RF is bland and boring. It's more combat/relationship oriented.
@zombi3wolf Because Rune Factory is and has always been a fantasy spinoff of Story of Seasons and the farming aspect is a key element of gameplay and has always been your main money maker unless you spam bosses for drops. Based on saying it's bland and boring, I can't even tell what game you've played in the series. Not Rune Factory Frontier. CERTAINLY not Rune Factory 4.
@Anti-Matter same
@Nic-Noc20th-C agreed. I believe people are eating it poorly solely because of the companies splitting/them keeping the title of the American version.
Truly, the split was mutual, so idc about that. Natsume is a tiny company compared to XSeed/marvelous and I think it's amazing they've accomplished a game like One World.
@King-Demon
Honestly! And on top of that the characters in One World show expressions very well imo. There's about a million (hyperbole obviously) complaints about not being able to see characters' faces well in PoOT and expressions being flat most of the time.
@Nic-Noc20th-C
Yeah I feel the same way!
Honestly PoOT has been so hyped by the producer or director (I honestly forget which) and reviews that I'm not surprised to read so many people are disappointed. (On Reddit and some on GameFAQs at least.)
As it is, being apparently so material maker focused and the makers being the way they are I feel like I'd be better off playing MTaP which I already own and waiting on a sale for PoOT. The cooking thing was the first thing that made me reconsider pre-order, and as I read more I realized that while it looks decent it's not at all anywhere near the levels it was hyped to be.
With OW at least I got exactly what I expected, a decently fun game that to be fair isn't without flaws but nothing that ruins the game for me. There are multiple things that I'm not a fan of in PoOT tbh.
Marvelous themselves basically are the ones that ended up causing me to give Natsume's games a chance, with the lack of hybrids outside of AWL/AnWL and the time locks and last two vendors of SoS1. I've loved both franchises so far overall, but if balance continues this direction with SoS I may have to accept that they're not for me. They're not the only farming sims around now too, there's bound to be other choices than even these two in the future! (Hopefully they don't all stick to PC!)
@Kiwi_Unlimited YES! This is what we need.
@AudraGreenTea
Clearly it's a game we absolutely need.
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