Other Disappointments
Some disappointments defy neat categories. This is the section where we get complainy.
Harvest Moon: One World
We've already mentioned a slew of disappointments for One World, but there are still a few more that don't fit neatly into a category.
The worst, for our money, is the fact that running costs stamina, which is your only source of energy in the game. If you get lost in the mines - and you will - it'll become a race against time and energy to try to find a ladder up or down to escape.
A smaller, but no less irritating issue is how sensitive the joystick controls are. It's easy to accidentally select the wrong option in a menu, and though we never had any dire consequences thanks to the sensitivity, it was annoying.
Finally, there's the wonky economy - and lack of difficulty options. Story of Seasons has had a "Seedling Mode" for a while now, which lets more casual players (or reviewers on a deadline) experience the game with reduced prices and easier friendships. One World doesn't have this, which means that the slog of trying to make money is a universally shared experience between all players. We didn't even get a horse until Autumn of Year One, and the world is so huge and empty that it's really a necessity if you want to get anything done.
Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town
Don't be fooled by its winning streak: Pioneers of Olive Town has its flaws, too.
Most egregious are its technical issues, which involve long loading screens and a framerate so low that it might as well be a slideshow whenever you walk into a field of crops.
In many other places, there's just a lack of polish that betrays either the game's low budget or the game's tight deadline. The Museum is sparse and disappointing, the lack of interesting dialogue makes all the townsfolk seem like robots, and the dearth of animal festivals, cooking festivals, and produce competitions makes it seem a bit pointless to be trying to get 10-star crops and 10-heart animals if no one's there to appreciate it.
Decorating your farm is fun, but just as limited as the house decoration in some places. The developers have seen fit to make the terrain sloped in some areas, and you can't put path on a slope, so you're stuck with grass for now. There's also a generous border around the edge of each area that you can't build on, as well as around the lakes you can't get rid of, so a lot of your paths are going to have to accommodate that.
And, since we've mentioned the lakes: Pioneers has a real problem with the overly-generous bounty of Mother Nature. The lakes are designed to be pumped dry, but they refill over the course of about a week, and the cycle starts again. Smaller ponds will appear anywhere there is space, and trees, forageable plants, long grass, and rocks will appear in any single-tile space that isn't taken up by a Maker, a building, a fence, or a path. What's more, they'll all grow back like weeds, even the rocks. It's a full-time job to keep chopping down all the trees, or laying path everywhere to stop them growing. We never thought we'd say this sentence, but it might be time to nerf Nature.
The cooking ability and the need for Makers, on the other hand, are both painfully slow. The former takes half an hour and you can only make one dish at a time; the latter makes one item per Maker, leading to the player needing about a hundred Makers spread across the farm to make progress. As we mentioned in our review, you get used to it - but that doesn't make it less bad.
Not to excuse any of this, of course - a game shouldn't be releasing if it has framerate issues this bad - but the developers are promising to patch it, and at least most of it is patchable.
WINNER: NO ONE!
We thought it would be too confusing to declare who won a category called "disappointments".
Surprises
AH! What was that? A surprise? Warn us next time.
Anyway, surprises and secrets are great in games like these, and while we won't spoil anything huge, there may be some little spoilies in here. Mostly, though, these surprises are all about things we were surprised and delighted to see in the game (that we haven't already mentioned).
Harvest Moon: One World
One World might be pretty dire, and we certainly don't recommend it (spoilers for the end of this article), but it does have some things going for it - especially when directly compared with Pioneers of Olive Town.
One World's world is seamless, with short loading screens only visible when you enter a building. You can explore the whole thing in one go, which is pretty neat (but may explain why there's not much in the world).
Its addition of mutated crops is an interesting proposal, and makes for an idea that we'd love to see in future games, especially if it's made a little more accessible to players.
Finally, there's the automatic tool-switching, which is a godsend. Perhaps some Harvest Moon players prefer to have their toolbar organised just the way they like it, or to have a little more control over what they intend to do, but One World does away with all of that. If you're pressing A next to a tree, you'll chop it. If you're pressing A next to the sea, you'll fish. Now your inventory can be filled with things you actually need, rather than every single tool you might need.
Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town
Pioneers of Olive Town is by no means the best Story of Seasons game, but it does still have a lot going for it.
The addition of the Harvest Sprites is perhaps the most interesting thing, even if they do look like sentient eggs. Through your daily activities, you'll discover Sprites, the tiny pink eggs, and you'll be able to assign them to various other Sprites, themed around a specific type of material. Assign a bunch of Sprites to the Stone Sprite, and he'll collect ore for you, or the Angler Sprite can get fish for you instead.
Every Sprite you get also earns you a point for the Shrine, where you can unlock new abilities, more stamina, new areas, and better crop quality. When the various Sprites give you the materials they've gathered, they'll also give you Sprite Coins, which can be spent on rare materials , but aren't usually worth it unless you really need a single piece of coal. It's a confusing and convoluted currency system, but it works.
The progress in general is fast but satisfying. You'll unlock most of the tool upgrades by the end of Year One, and maybe even be on your way to marriage. After a year, our Museum is almost full, and we barely even tried, and we've almost completed the story of Pioneers of Olive Town, which requires building up the town to attract tourists. Lovett, the local Gourmet, is often asking for meals of a certain quality, and we're about halfway through those requests, too.
Some of the late-game crafting recipes take a lot of materials - especially the Old Hydroculture Plant, which takes a whopping 50 Orichalcum Ingots - but that gives us something to strive for. What's more, the difficulty options give you a choice between Normal, and Seedling Mode, which lowers prices across the board and raises what you can sell items for, as well as making friendship gains easier and faster, and stamina loss slower. Overall, it makes for a less stressful experience for those who don't want to grind quite as much, without taking away the challenge.
Pioneers of Olive Town doesn't have anything quite as exciting as One World's mutated crops, but you can occasionally get a special crop - a Giant Sweet Potato, a Jewel Melon, or a Round Eggplant, for example - which sell for more, or can be turned into more seeds than the garden-variety version. They're pretty rare, but exciting to find.
And, last but not least: the crafting. Pioneers of Olive Town is all about taking things into your own hands, and you'll be able to build everything (except house upgrades, barns, coops, stables, and tool upgrades) from scratch. You can then decide where it goes on your farm. There is the issue of trees popping up in the cracks every time you look away, but it's quickly remedied (and hopefully will be patched). This degree of freedom is not new to the series, but it's welcome.
WINNER: Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town!
Gasp. No way.
OVERALL WINNER: Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town!
Well, that was surprisingly easy (and, perhaps, obvious): Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town is the clear winner. So clear, in fact, that we wrote this paragraph before we wrote the rest of the article. But, if you were sitting on the fence between the two games (or you just wanted to read us thoroughly tearing apart Harvest Moon: One World again) then hopefully this helped.
Happy farming!
Comments 64
No, you should not.
What ever you do just don't buy Harvest Moon
If I was forced to play any of these two, Story of Seasons is the only actual answer here since it's the true Harvest Moon. However, I'd rather just play Rune Factory 5, whenever that comes out.
Very helpful comparison.Let's play Stardew Valley 😁
Support XSeed and Story of Seasons! Easy choice. They are the real developers of the games we grew up with. XSeed even made us the remake of Mineral Town (Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town), and it shows that they are the true IP creators.
Natsume is just using the Harvest Moon name and banking on people's ignorance of not knowing what happened legally with XSeed, Natsume, and the "Harvest Moon" trademark. Nowadays, Natsume's games might as well be classified as mobile games priced like AAA games.
This was a really fun read! Thanks for the laugh.
That actually read like an in depth review of both games and not just in a comparitive way. Nice work!
I feel like downloading one of the other Story of Seasons games on the Switch actually
When can I get a game where I get to be a rancher of Lovecraftian horrors (while trying to maintain my sanity)!?
THAT is a farming/ranching game I would play. . .
. . .oh, and I'd also play Stardew Valley.
@LEGEND_MARIOID yep, I felt like I didn't get to cover everything in the two reviews I did! Which means I've written collectively almost 10k words on these two games
I bought both for my partner and she was let down with harvest moon earlier in the month, received story of seasons today and she says its much better than harvest moon so far even without the character portraits. Tbh watching her play may have released my inner farmer self and give it a try before monster hunter comes
Both of the new games are abymsal. Story of Seasons a little less so, but that's faint praise considering One World is almost unplayable.
Summary:
Harvest Moon is trash
POOT is ok, I guess
(Hehe, POOT)
Thank you for this article. I have played a few of Natsume’s Harvest Moon games and they are bad but sometimes have a couple of things that make it fun, but this one and the previous one for Switch look terrible and they’re charging full price. As for Story of Seasons, I have been bored with the series for a long time. Rune Factory has interesting characters that talk about different things regularly but the Story of Seasons character have been flat and boring for a long time. Animal Parade was the last game to have good characters IMO.
Anyway I won’t be buying either game. Stardew Valley just updated and added new content.
Rune Factory 5
Correct answer: Wait for Rune Factory 5
Neither will stick with stardew valley. These two company's should be ashamed when one man is doing a million times better job with stardew.
Will get rune factory 5 when it's out if it's not awful.
I will pick BOTH of them.
BOTH of them.
Ralph, Jack and Emilio from Olive Town + Braden and Kanoa from One World are my future husbandos.
I will never pick Rune Factory 5.
I do not like at all the character design especially their eyes, disturbing blank stares.
Nice article. Thanks!
@ATaco honestly
The only reason I could understand getting POOT over RF5 is it seems RF5 won’t have gay marriage which sucks. I’ll just play as a dude and be a bit sad like usual.
Both sound bad in their own ways.
Great article! Hey, @KateGray or anyone who knows, I've read in a few places about needing about a hundred makers in PoOT. Without giving too much away, are all these really needed at once? If I'm satisfied with my wardrobe or don't care to upgrade my house just yet or don't need to turn milk to butter, can I minimize the makers? What's the smallest count you can keep and still accomplish things at a competent pace?
@Burning_Spear The biggest ones to keep on hand are lumber and ingots and you should have several at a time unless you don't care about making ample supply at the same time. The others can be kept in storage bin (or not made) until you need them. I currently have 6 lumber makers and 4 ingot makers in addition to other kinds, so it can slow the game down by having so many out at once but I just deal if i need to make a multitude of supplies at once
@ReaperX That was my take away too. Pass on both of them and play Stardew Valley.
Neither, Stardew Valley left both series in its dust
@ShikabaneHime13 Sheesh, I remember when this game had a butter maker and mayonnaise maker and that was it. Makers are neat, but this seems like too much of a good thing.
Both of these games look like they're horrible and a slap in the face to any long time fans of either series. I've always been into Rune Factory and - excepting the first gamec - I have played through them all, whereas I could never get into any of the HM games - even the ones that seem like they're critical darlings (like "It's a Wonderful Life").
Both games have some of the most unispired, lazy graphics I've seen from major titles on Switch - ranging from mobile quality at best to borderline N64 at worst.
The lack of decent dialogue - especially in Story of Seasons - is almost unforgivable. I wouldn't expect much from HM, but how do you take a game where getting to know the townspeople is half the fun and taking away what makes it so fun? Unacceptable.
Rune Factory 5 looks very promising - barring horrible reviews, it's a day one purchase for me and will almost certain top anything either of these two compost heaps ever will - however, even that game has me a bit concerned. The environments look surprisingly barren - even inside of the buildings - and, combined with generic looking character models and menus - it doesn't look noticably better than Tides of Destiny which is disappointing. Even Rune Factory Frontier had a better art aesthetic to it imo.
That said, I'm not a graphics-wh----e and I eagerly loom forward to playing it. As for these two games? No. Just no. Stardew beats both of them by almost every measure.
The only answer is obvious: wait for Rune Factory 5, and enjoy some Stardew Valley in the meantime.
Rune Factory 5 is the answer.
The answer to this question is Stardew Valley
Or My time at Porta
Or Doraemon story of seasons
Or LittleWood
Or Marenian Tavern Story: Patty and the Hungry God
Or Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
Or if you are somehow done with ALL of them ... the answer is admitting there is such a thing as playing too much framing games
I’m quite liking Friends of Mineral Town, especially the HMDS throwbacks and Easter eggs, so it’s disappointing to see what POOT turned out like. Hopefully RF5 is great.
Just buy Stardew Valley. You won’t be disappointed
Should you pick Story of Seasons or Harvest Moon?
You should pick Stardew Valley.
I feel like this article pretty solidly answers the question of "can we have too many farming sims?" I'm pretty glad there are other options. Olive town might be worth playing in a couple of months, until then, at least Sandrock will probably hit early access soon...
@Stenaven lmao they are both trash
I didn't expect a big article like this. Kudos.
Although from the test I've seen, fake harvest moon wouldn't be worth your time as a freeware and story of season is a bit boring and sometimes a chore, so none of them for me.
I'll take option C: Stardew Valley
@HeadPirate I totally agree. I find it a little frustrating that nobody is talking about Littlewood in particular. It’s not perfect but it’s such a refreshing take on this genre and deserves more recognition.
Wow. This is how you know NL is legit. Their main advertiser is Harvest Moon, and yet they rip on it for 4 pages.
There is another option, Re:Legend by Magnus Games, published by 505 Games.
I still surprised NOBODY here ever know Re:Legend.
In Re:Legend, you can farming underwater, having evolved monsters like Pokemon, choose 1 from several jobs available, upgrade your stats, attending the Festivals, etc.
@Anti-Matter
People certainly know about Re: Legend, you're just not going to hear about it here because it isn't on a Nintendo system.
@CovidBarbie
Re:Legend will be released on console version on Spring 2021 according to their Twitter.
Natsume needs to get bent and quit hogging my old good looks.
Olive Town needs overall development additions if it is to remain popular with players. I really want to love this game, but it is just too dang easy.
Everybody says Rune Factory 5. But I watched the trailer, and it doesn't even seem to have anything to do with farming. Looks more like a Final Fantasy.
Going against the majority here.
I've been playing Harvest Moon one World for nearly a week now.
I'm loving it.
I dont have much spare time on my hands right now so I quite like the simple gameplay mechanics, the colorful world, the catchy tunes and the cheesy jokes.
I feel progression is quite quick and there is a lot to do in one game day. Quite good if you have a spare 20 minutes here and there in real life.
It's not perfect but it does not deserve the low scores its getting at the moment. I have played many titles that have received high scores and much praise only to left disappointed and failed to see what reviewers rave about sometimes.
Its a matter of taste I supppose.
I'd give it a 7/10.
I have not played Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town.
I might eventually but for now I'm happy with Harvest Moon One World.
What ever you're playing have fun and stay safe everyone!
Wait. Sydney is Laura’s mom?
Laura’s Mom has got it going on, she’s all I want and I’ve waited for so long...
I keep bouncing between waiting or going ahead and getting Olive Town. Let’s plays look good but I feel like the controversy is gonna tank the price. Maybe I should buy something else on my list...ugh first world problems.
@Ryu_Niiyama I flip-flipped on Olive Town so many times, from "must preorder" to "wait for a sale" and back again for months now. Finally ordered it yesterday because I couldn't stand missing out on the little buffalo plushie.
You're probably right about the sales, though. I wouldn't be too surprised if I saw this at half price later this year.
@JasmineDragon see, I want the plushie too! It will go next to the strawberry cow. But that means it’s a 10 dollar plushie.
I have to go to Best Buy after the comic store anyway so depending on how much money I have left that will decide for me.
This whole fiscal responsibility thing sucks.
I think the safest bet for me is to let Pioneers of Olive time have a few patches and see what some of the DLC brings to the game.
If they do a decent job of fixing it up, I'll then drop the cash but right now, I'm not in a rush to spend 50 quid on a game that needs more work done.
Played HMOW and Story of Seasons is coming any day now, guess i'm just a glutton for punishment despite all the warnings XD
meanwhile Littlewood is still backlogged for me and I know that will be a gem when I get around to it at least.
@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah it does! This season is brutal. I went way over my usual limit this month. I'm going to have to skip some things coming soon.
@JasmineDragon same. I’m already canceling preorders just to shift my budget. That’s why I look at folks when they are like “there’s no games on Switch” and I am like “where? Please tell them to stop!”
I’m just staring at the clock now...waiting on stores to open.
I'm not even sure if I should buy this game. I got Story of Seasons, which was originally a 3DS game, and for the 3DS, it does look great (Knowing that the 3DS wasn't really 'THAT' Powerfull. Not as much as compared to other handheld such as PSP, and PSPvita, which became a marketing flop later on.), but the PC version of Story of Seasons is just that, Game ported to PC with the 3DS Graphics, which on PC and on UHD/2K Resolution, looks... Weird. And the movement is pretty janky too. Sooo, I hope that stuff is fixed.
Damn, I just got back into Stardew Valley in a big bad way (taking a break from ACNH), and with Littlewood just having been released, I don't think I'll have time for yet another farm/life sim...
@JasmineDragon ok I couldn’t resist the plushie. Starting my farm tomorrow.
story of seasons has better diversity in characters? are you sure?....dont look like it to me
Never understand why people put Rune Factory in the same category as farming sims. The farming in RF is bland and boring. It's more combat/relationship oriented.
@zombi3wolf Because Rune Factory is and has always been a fantasy spinoff of Story of Seasons and the farming aspect is a key element of gameplay and has always been your main money maker unless you spam bosses for drops. Based on saying it's bland and boring, I can't even tell what game you've played in the series. Not Rune Factory Frontier. CERTAINLY not Rune Factory 4.
@Anti-Matter same
@Nic-Noc20th-C agreed. I believe people are eating it poorly solely because of the companies splitting/them keeping the title of the American version.
Truly, the split was mutual, so idc about that. Natsume is a tiny company compared to XSeed/marvelous and I think it's amazing they've accomplished a game like One World.
@King-Demon
Honestly! And on top of that the characters in One World show expressions very well imo. There's about a million (hyperbole obviously) complaints about not being able to see characters' faces well in PoOT and expressions being flat most of the time.
@Nic-Noc20th-C
Yeah I feel the same way!
Honestly PoOT has been so hyped by the producer or director (I honestly forget which) and reviews that I'm not surprised to read so many people are disappointed. (On Reddit and some on GameFAQs at least.)
As it is, being apparently so material maker focused and the makers being the way they are I feel like I'd be better off playing MTaP which I already own and waiting on a sale for PoOT. The cooking thing was the first thing that made me reconsider pre-order, and as I read more I realized that while it looks decent it's not at all anywhere near the levels it was hyped to be.
With OW at least I got exactly what I expected, a decently fun game that to be fair isn't without flaws but nothing that ruins the game for me. There are multiple things that I'm not a fan of in PoOT tbh.
Marvelous themselves basically are the ones that ended up causing me to give Natsume's games a chance, with the lack of hybrids outside of AWL/AnWL and the time locks and last two vendors of SoS1. I've loved both franchises so far overall, but if balance continues this direction with SoS I may have to accept that they're not for me. They're not the only farming sims around now too, there's bound to be other choices than even these two in the future! (Hopefully they don't all stick to PC!)
@Kiwi_Unlimited YES! This is what we need.
@AudraGreenTea
Clearly it's a game we absolutely need.
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