
One of the hottest pre-E3 rumours on the internet over these past few days has been the discussion over Retro Studios working on a Star Fox title that aims to play closer to a hybrid of F-Zero and Diddy Kong Racing. Indeed, this alleged Star Fox: Grand Prix sounds like a bit of an outlandish possibility, but it’s also one of those things that’s just weird enough that there might be some truth to it. Now, more information has leaked that Retro is working on another title, as well.
In a discussion of the Star Fox rumour, Game Informer dropped the following information that it had gathered from trusted sources:
Rumors of the game have been swirling for several months in light of talk from some sources that Retro Studios' title has been struggling, with many at both Retro and Nintendo growing frustrated with the state of the project. These sources did not confirm whether the project being worked on was this Star Fox title.
Following this, Jason Schreier of Kotaku gave his two cents on the Star Fox rumour, while also dropping some information about what else is going on at Retro. Here’s what was said:
We’ve also heard from two other sources that the Austin, Texas-based Retro had a separate project that went through a rocky development cycle and may in fact be canceled.
Schreier later clarified that he’d heard about this being a different project, which would show that Retro is working on both Star Fox and something else. It would certainly explain why the studio has been oddly quiet since the original launch of Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, but as with anything, all of this is hearsay until official word from Nintendo. Hopefully E3 will shed more light on the situation.
What do you think? Is Star Fox: Grand Prix real? What else do you think Retro is doing? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
[source gameinformer.com, via kotaku.com]
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I would like to see Retro do a horror game. I hope that's the actual project they are working on, but if Starfox Grand Prix ended up being legit, I wouldn't be mad. It does sound like an interesting pitch.
This makes me worry a bit, I really don't want to see Retro go down and deal with issues like with what is potentially going down, and if all they have going for themselves right now is a Star Fox racing spin off that is kind of concerning.
I’d rather see them abandon a project they aren’t satisfied with instead of sending a potentially lackluster game to market.
@onex My dream would have been Retro working on an Eternal Darkness reboot/sequel. They could work wonders with something like that.
Star Fox Grand Prix sounds like potentially the best thing ever. Some Diddy Kong Racing crossed with F-Zero,set in space and starring the cast of Star Fox with a hub world ,bosses and presumably online multiplayer and developed by Retro Studios. It doesn't get any better than that!
Even we would like to know what the project was; If for one reason the project resulted in a "disaster", it is better to stop and try again.
But, oh well, if Retro Studios already has a game on the way, possibly in this E3 we will see that project that really already have on the door, and that really will be a game as they know how to do it.
If Retro were developing Metroid Prime 4 that would be one less big game to look forward to. If they were developing a new Donkey Kong Country there would be an outcry from the majority . If they were developing a horror game there would be many happy gamers but even more disappointed ones. Instead it seems they are developing a spiritual successor to 2 of the most demanded series to make a return and giving it a space theme with the adorable but long mistreated cast of Starfox.
Shock and surprise I understand but disappointment?
@OorWullie I wouldn't be disappointed, the premise sounds awesome! But my imagination gets the best of me, and I'd LOVE to see what Retro could do for the horror genre. Either way, I'm very interested in whatever Retro reveals, if anything at all.
Lolol this is all just great. You know what would be better? Actual confirmed games from Retro. They've only been working on Tropical Freeze for the last 8 years is all.
Yeah, let's just keep this all secret and rumor. Because why not. Hype and whatnot.
#fakenews
@OorWullie trust me, it could only get better than that.
It's all the more concerning when you consider the lackluster sales of Tropical Freeze on the Wii U. Of course, the Switch version is selling much better on the Switch, but that couldn't have been great for company morale to spend years working on a game with troubled development while knowing their last game didn't perform well, even if it was amazing.
Doesn't sound unreasonable. They've been quiet for a very long time, so it would not shock me to hear that they've been in development hell.
Hopefully that's not the case though.
Crap rumors. Give me a real rumor/rumour/rumoire!
This Star Fox game sounds amazing and I’m really hoping it’s real.
... I cannot believe, I'm one of the few people to say, I don't want this. Not now. Not before I've gotten a new mainline Star Fox game, cos the last one didn't last half a year, for me.
If this actually does well, I actually fear Nintendo's just gonna can F-Zero, and make this the new mainline Star Fox.
@gatorboi352 Honest question and don't take this the wrong way. But you seem to genuinely enjoy whenever there's bad news about Nintendo. Of course, there's nothing wrong with disliking a company, but actively wishing for their downfall seems unfair.
@NotAceAttorney Honestly, I'm not sure why he still checks the site. He doesn't care for the 3ds OR the Switch, yet here he is yet again posting a negative comment of ridicule. You'd think after a few years of this he'd finally move on.
@gatorboi352 How are you not banned off this website? Half of your arguments are useless and rebutted within 10 minutes and they always happen to be negative. I rarely ever saw you respond to anybody with any worthy counter-argument. You never have anything positive to say about the Switch yet you're still actively subscribed to a NINTENDO-exclusive website.
If you can't afford it I can see why you're so keen on wasting your own life and time - probably exactly the same you did to your education to end up broke.
I think it's time to get a life my dude.
1080 or Wave Race with StarFox would be good.
StarFox Wave Race 1080!
Bust out tricks on your Snow/wave runner with guns!
Trick your way down a mountain straight off a cliff only to land on the water and keep on racing while tricking and shooting your way to the finish!
Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster.
If true, then it'd be better to silently cancel a game than to let it become a hotly anticipated title only for it to be killed off cough cough Scalebound cough cough Fable Legends cough cough
I'm thankful Nintendo isn't Microsoft or EA; otherwise, a small sign if troubled development or failure to conform to modern trends would have marked the end of Retro as we know it.
@NotAceAttorney
The Switch being a smash hit while not being a traditional PS4/XBO clone gets under a lot of people's skins.
At least there will be salt aplenty...until the next system arrives, whereby people can claim that Nintendo will definitely make the next Wii U because of reasons.
@NotAceAttorney,
I wouldn't worry too much about what he says,he was saying that Switch sales would stall right around the time the console was initially flying of the shelves,some people among the very vocal internet forum minority are pretty negative,but that's balanced by the positive posters.
Just so longs as Nintendo never lets Platinum near Star Fox again! "Hey let's try and make it so that the box that shows where you're shooting doesn't show where your'e shooting, people will love that!"
I suspect this could actually even be a legit Star Fox game, just more focused on speed or something. They could probably also reuse a ton of resources from Star Fox Zero, after all the game had good environments, it was just the terrible controls, the dumbass hacking, etc that marred that game. (And before you ask, yes I do own it, yes I still think it was garbage and I'd gladly trade my copy for a version of Star Fox 64 that looked good)
Nintendo should have just got a medium amount of money and gone to treasure and asked them to do a starfox shump. They aren’t the most expensive to produce and they can be worked on by small teams plus treasure would knock it out the park
@Mr_Pepperami do they still exist? Haven’t they barely released a single game in over a decade? I’d guess that whatever talented staff they once had have long since left of their drive to prove themselves has been depleted. They seemed to struggle making 3D games a little anyway.
I used to love Treasure games but I think their time is over unfortunately.
@StuTwo they still exist in my heart😢
@StuTwo also I wouldn’t want it in 3D. I’d want a proper old school schump set in the starfox universe like their gradius 5.
@Mr_Pepperami I want a cell shaded version that looks like a super high quality 80s anime. I’d go all in on that - ridiculous firey explosions and cheesy close fly pasts of the camera all round!
The rumoured Retro game sounds so off the wall it could be really cool too though. Though hopefully it’s not another nail in the f-zero coffin.
@StuTwo that sounds amazing. The cartoon angle is fantastic. I’d be all over that as well. As for the racing game yeah, it’s retro so I’m confident it will be good. I also was really really hoping for an fzero so if this does exist I cant imagine us getting one......which is heartbreaking. That last one on the GameCube was incredible
I was really hoping Retro where working on a new Kid Icarus game. Hopefully they have and it hasn't been cancelled.
I love rumor season cause this is exactly what happens when a rumor goes against the common agreement of what Retro may been doing.
It's like the Pokemon Stars thing; that secret project will now be everyone's Hope's and dreams and now it may been canned.
@DavidMac The controls, if memory serves, were down to Miyamoto’s meddling and the desire to shoehorn Wii U’s GamePad in there. I’d love to see PG run wild on Star Fox.
@DavidMac "Hey let's try and make it so that the box that shows where you're shooting doesn't show where your'e shooting, people will love that!"
That made me laugh.
@thesilverbrick Problem is business most of the time. If you already invested that much money into the project, you rather release it in the hope it sells enough to break even/potentional make profit.
Making games is fun, but it stays ice cold business.
This Star Fox F-zero DKR cross over sounds rediculous at first but I’m starting to warm to it... am I deluded? I’d prefer a proper F-Zero though.
@OorWullie We have no guarantees that Bandi Namco's C-tier studio is going to do Metroid Prime justice.
This is sounding more plausible as we go.
I am actually intrigued by the Star Fox Grand Prix idea. I just couldn't believe that was all they had been working on. This makes more sense. I do hope they have two games to announce at E3. We'll see...
@Haru17
There's never any guarantees. Even had Retro themselves done it there would be no guarantees, given the staff changes.
But I believe Nintendo would not place it in incapable hands, and Bandai does make some excellent games (did justice for Smash). At the end of the day, all it takes is one guy with a vision to lead the team.
I want more DKC like Tropical Freeze. Or Donkey Kong Racing
@NotAceAttorney where in my comment do I even remotely wish for a company's downfall?
I even call this rumor fake news. Now, I can see how the facetiousness in my first sentence didn't exactly jump out over text, sure.
@johnvboy hey switch is doing great, only a fool would deny that.
The problem with Nintendo is that they typically sh*t the bed when it comes to sustaining success. Labo isn't a good sign that they've learned lessons of the past.
I hope it is another DKC game honestly, I loved TF and Retruns. We just need a return to form with King K. Rool.
Rumors: Both the fuel and the downfall of the internet. I'm eager to see what happens with this one.
There's an equal number of reports this morning THAT IT IS STAR FOX that was having trouble and not the other game.
@JaxonH Nintendo puts out a lot of shovelware. In particular, there are a lot of mediocre Metroid games that Nintendo very much put in the wrong hands. Singapore even contributed to that pile with Mario Sports Superstars.
At least we would have known Retro was a talented studio with the code and resources from the Prime trilogy.
Yea the StarFox rumor sounds great but ... I'm pretty sure that if the game is released it will be good, like REALLY good, but I'll still be a bit disappointed that it's just a F-Zero gameplay with StarFox instead of a real F-Zero game
A racing game like Diddy Kong Racing could feat with StarFox theme, but what I want in a racing game like F-Zero is huge speed, death races and lot of people on the same track.
So basically, for me the dream is to have 2 games, one with StarFox "diddy kong racing like" and one more classic, basically F-Zero GX but faster and bigger, more people on the race (just imagine 30 guys online in the same race, that would be so cool), with deadly races where you have to be violent and sometimes push someone else out of the race, causing a complete elimination from the race (if the races are fast enough, it will not be that frustrating to get pushed away I think)
But it's just a dream
Please please please Retro make another DKC!
@DavidMac So you forgot about Nintendo going half on that game? I guarantee Star fox would of been completely different had PG had complete control.
@Haru17 Besides Other M and federation, that's about it.
News about rumors about rumours.
More at six!
@Pod I heard a rumour it'll be at seven now.
Star Fox it's an internal name. This is a full fledged fzero.
I am hugely confused: A Starfox racing game, f-zero fast but like a DKR adventure?! It sounds so weird it may actually work!
As for the game in danger: Yup, if true it might be the horror-game. Nintendo isn't a huge fan of dark games or new franchises. They do new franchises now and then, but they much rather use old franchises. Also, finally...RUMORS!!
I also saw the Alex video just yet: A retooled F-Zero doesn't sound nearly as cool. It gives me Starfox adventures vibes, wich isn't good. Also Starfox Zero bombed so hard that I think we won't see the franchise back so soon. Maybe in 10 years?
To people that were complaining about the possibility of Retro working on another Donkey Kong game. How do you feel now? lol
@gatorboi352
As Nintendo are not in the typical hardcore market they will have to find something new each generation.
It worked with the Wii and DS,but missed the mark with the Wii U and 3DS(allthough still managed to sell around 85 million consoles),the Switch seems to have hit the sweet spot so things are looking good.
If all you can do is bring Labo into the mix then you really are clutching at straws with your negative comments.
@Syntaxkita Investing even more money in the production and publication of a game that performs poorly does even more damage to people’s careers and the studio’s overall health.
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