Update: Nintendo has updated its E3 site and has removed any reference to “Nintendo Direct: E3 2018”. The new wording now says:
Three days of Nintendo Switch gameplay with Treehouse members and developers, starting right after the video presentation with Super Smash Bros.
Original Story: Ever since Nintendo opted out of the usual E3 press conference circus (something Sony has followed suit on this year), it has seemingly been unable to decide what to call the pre-recorded broadcast that airs during the world's biggest gaming show.
In the past we've seen them called "Digital Events" and "Nintendo Directs", and this year the company has reverted to the classic naming. Its show will be called “Nintendo Direct: E3 2018”, and it will be accompanied by the usual raft of Treehouse streams which focus on individual games. The first of these will be for Smash Bros. on Switch.
While this isn't exactly groundbreaking news, at least you now know what to call this year's biggest Nintendo-related E3 event.
[source gonintendo.com]
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That’s A Nice name
Thats cute. Shame it'll be crap.
Also when do we get an E3 2018 category?
In June 2042
Much better name. Atleasts it feels like Nintendo tries to be a part of E3 with their presentation now.
I can't wait to see how their stand looks like. Last year it was beautiful, so jealous I wasn't there.
Okay.
Please, Animal Crossing for Switch revelation...
@YummyHappyPills,
Don't like to ask,but why will it be crap?.
The Nintendo E3 direct has become my favourite event in the gaming calendar. Even though sometimes it doesn't meet my personal hopes and wishes it's still a great watch.
We all call it a Direct anyway.
@YummyHappyPills I am also curious, like the guy above me, as to why do you think this Nintendo Direct will be crap.
Not really that excited for Smash itself, but I'm excited for the rest. There will hopefully be some info on the two big hitters, Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4.
@Cosats
I think YummyHappyPills still sceptical about Paid Online Service and some Upcoming Switch games.
Better ask him/her.
@YummyHappyPills
You know that's going to trigger the kiddos...
@JaxxDuffer Ditto that! It’s been an annual tradition for my friends and me since the better half of a decade. And—waaaiiit!! We can’t stop here... this is Donkey Kong Country!
@johnvboy @Cosats I dont care for Yoshi or FE (But Im sure they will be fine), the third party suppirt is likely to be lacking, Smash is Smash and this new Pokemon sounds like disappointment.
Any third party support is likely to be purely average or late which for this point of a system life cycle is unacceptable.
Plus, notice how I just rattled off their Direct based on what we know is 2018 but yet to see?
@URAmk2 Oh no. Opinions. How dare I.
@YummyHappyPills
You know you can't have those here unless they are positive. Lol!
I'm hoping that Pikmin 4 and Animal Crossing Switch will finally get announced this year, it's been way too long!
What's the big deal? Same as E3 2014.
@YummyHappyPills Not trying to start anything but don't you think it's a bit close-minded to writing off a E3 as being bad before the show has even taken place? Leaks are leaks, they don't hold any water until they've been 100% confirmed and Nintendo could still show off a plethora of awesome looking unnannounced 1st Party games. I do agree with you on the third party stuff though, the only I'm expecting on that front is a late, degraded port of Spyro and maybe something from Capcom or Sega.
@Tarolusa I dont see how they can have that many first party games for late 2018.
@YummyHappyPills It's a Nintendo Direct - surely it should leave the third-party stuff to the third-party software houses anyway? Isn't the main point supposed to be showing off Nintendo games and hardware?
Don't know why you think Pokémon Switch is going to be disappointing - there's hardly any proper information out there. I'm looking forward to the Direct as we might finally get to know some real details.
@YummyHappyPills @URAmk2 Negative opinions are fine, but you're on Nintendolife. Everyone here is a fan of Nintendo. Constantly shouting negative opinions here would be like going to a football game and constantly shouting that the home team sucks... Of course you're gonna get some dirty looks...
...It's like going to the bingo hall and telling all the seniors you hate Bingo... and seniors.
Or going to the ocean and telling Nemo that you hope his dad never finds him.
@Krull If Nintendo's history is anything to go by it likes announcing third party stuff for them.
Hell if rumours are true and they held back the Spyro announcement just to feel special then thats just dumb.
@YummyHappyPills I'm just theorising that they could announce a bunch of new 1st party stuff, not declaring that they'll defintetly be there. Any you do realise that some of the new games they announce at E3 will release after late 2018 and instead in 2019 right? Not all of them are going to released back to back within the timeslot of just 6 months.
@Tarolusa Focusing exclusively on 2018 games. 2019 games will be shown at a later date.
Sounds like 2019 games arent gonna be there to me.
The amount of great games that have been released in the first year and the next few months of awesome games - plus the announced games we know are coming - Im not sure how anyone can be saying its disappointing...
It's only going to get better with time.
Nintendo announces new honest title for E3: Super Smash Bros and friends.
On another note: Nintendo's E3 is gonna be great! 😄
@YummyHappyPills
Well, what games that you think can make you happy during E3 2018 ?
Btw, if you think Pokemon for Switch will be suck, don't trust the Leaks 100%. Remember when there was a Leak about Weird design of NX , after that it confirmed it was Fake ? I'm sure GameFreaks will Not disappoint Millions of Pokemon fans.
@YummyHappyPills I'm pretty sure that for last yea'rs E3 they said they would only be focusing on games that would be released within 2017. They announced Kirby, which was released in 2018, Yoshi and Fire Emblem, which I'm certain will be released later this year and Pokemon, which I'm sceptical on releasing this year but it could happen. Then there's Metroid Prime 4 which I'm pretty confident on will be released in 2019. I think it's way too early to be stating that 2019 (or even 2020) will be absent from this E3 and especially trying to word it as facts.
@-DG
Ease up on the hyperbole there buddy. Your comment was better without the edits.
@KingdomHeartsFan
Ha! So true
@-DG "Or going to the ocean and telling Nemo that you hope his dad never finds him."
Oh wow. That's dark.
@KingdomHeartsFan
Um.... i guess.
But not sure the 8th Gen Pokemon will be better.
You know, sometimes i fell asleep when i did Battles on Pokemon games (Sun/Moon) somehow....
An old saying goes that it's better to be pessimistic or skeptical than optimistic: there's less of a chance to be let down and more to be pleasantly surprised
@URAmk2 I couldn't help myself, lol.
I'm going to be salty for a second so people can mock me if they want but I kinda like how people's viewpoint on smash games go from "just announced it already, I can't wait any longer!" before they've been officially confirmed but when they do become confirmed the viewpoint changes to "yeah I'm excited about it but it's just another smash game"
Again I know this sounds really salty so people can troll/mock me if they want.
NDE318 makes a nice license plate. ☺
I'm glad it has a name so we can all refer to it by the same name, unlike SSB which currently gets listed differently all the time, w/o the Super in this article, though it's most frequently used name is that of an N64 game. Which didn't work out too poorly for GoW which goes by the name of a PS2 game. Hopefully Nintendo makes it official at E3, whatever it is.
I'm calling it "Metroid Prime 4 or bust".
@YummyHappyPills There are six months after E3 so we’ll more than likely see at least six first party titles but probably more from July on since we got two in April, are getting two in May, and two in June and the last quarter is the peak season. I’d say there are several first party games for 2018 that have yet to be announced.
I can not wait for more info about fire Emblem.
a 2019 game will be shown metroid xmas 2019 expected release date lol.
Better be like 30 minutes of MP4 footage and a Treehouse play session afterwards.
@YummyHappyPills,
No problem with opinions fella,but I still feel it's a little early to write the whole thing off just yet,who knows what Nintendo have up their sleeves.
I must admit I do laugh a little when people bring up the third party support thing....it's like Nintendo have had tonnes of AAA support for ages now,hang on they haven't since the SNES so we are assuming they will get loads all of a sudden...yes seems reasonable.
@gatorboi352,
Thank God your here Gator,we need some positive comments in this section.
I have a good name for it: Nintendos Re-Release-O-Rama
Since Octopath Traveler and MonHun GenU are coming this year, anything else is a bonus to me.
Frankly, it really doesn't matter what they call it.
@YummyHappyPills - Nintendo work with fiscal years, so 2018 could refer to fiscal year 2018, which could give us many more nuggets to chew on.
@johnvboy it really does seem to be a bit tense in here. Glad I could help.
@YummyHappyPills If you don't like Yoshi you have no soul. Jus' sayin'.
I'm less enthused about FE than some, not because I don't think it will be great or even because I won't like it but because I suck so bad at it. I WANT to be good at it, but I'm not.
Finally someone else not excited about Smash!!!1
Pokemon...well...we know nothing. I have high hopes for it still. I'm expecting a better E3 from Nintendo than Sony this year. But I'm not expecting "My" kind of Nintendo E3. I think they're going for "popular, safe, less interesting to core gamers" kinds of games for the remainder of 2018 and the meat and potatoes for us comes next year. Though they could announce Animal Crossing. My free time will drop to zero if they do that.
I never (ever (ever)) thought I'd say this, but.....my eyes are on Microsoft to wow me this E3. (phew...I was able to keep it down...)
@subpopz I agree. I still remember how excited I was about the final fantasy vii remake
very excited but keeping expectations in check! Hopefully a few surprises for all to enjoy
We will all sleep easier now this grave problem has been solved.
There are a few obvious games that we should see at the Direct, I'd say we will see:
Smash, Splatoon, new Fire Emblem, Yoshi (again with release date and a demo available after the presentation), Pokemon (if not at the E3 direct, then by Pokemon company themselves before or a few days after the E3) and a few more exclusives that we don't know about it like the mysterious Retro Studios game, perhaps Pikimin 4 that is said to be in development for ages.
If we are lucky, perhaps some gameplay of Bayonetta 3 and Metroid 4.
That is about it in my opinion.
But I really wish that Nintendo will show us more games that we are not expecting. I'd love to see games like Wave Race, 1080, Mario Party, Cruis'n etc back. Specially racing games that is a genre lacking on the Switch.
From third party, I suppose we will see more support, last year many devs already said that they didn't expect the Switch to be a success and that they would invest more on it so, hopefully, we will start to see the results of it even if there are only ports of existing (this gen) games.
I wonder what Ubisoft will show (if anything) as they are planning the expansion of Rabbids + Mario at the moment. Maybe they will port some of their last year games? would love to play Assassins Creed on the go.
Looking forward to E3!
Hope we can get through the Smash stuff quickly and get on to more exciting things.
@Tarolusa Actually I am one (probably the only one) never care for Smash (other than Amiibo), so you will not hear/ read me saying ""just announced it already, I can't wait any longer!" but I might say ".....but it's just another smash game"
What I want from E3 is that all those gaming blog/news site quit announcing games that will be shown before E3 so I will at least get pleasantly surprised and excited on that day.
But this year I am mostly looking forward to indies announcement.
Name wise, I really don't care if they call it E3 2018 or Direct 2018. Don't make any difference to me as long as it show some games I like with release date attached.
I just thought the article said pre-recorded breakfast, not broadcast...
If they lead with a NEW Smash, Nintendo will win E3 (again).
If they lead with a Smash port, . . . ugh . . . .
I'm thinking calling it a direct implies a more content heavy show than last year with the "digital event". I feel like event implies a short, lighter show
@YummyHappyPills
3rd party support should be improving as the Switch has proved to be a success. A year isn't long in a life cycle, the XBO/PS4 were full of old ports at the same point and only started getting new games in their second years.
Nintendo always has the potential to surprise as they often have shorter reveal/release times for all except the biggest titles (Zelda, Mario, Metroid). A game can be unknown but release 6 months to a year after the reveal, unlike Sony who get hype by announcing games that won't release until about 4 years later.
Its good to keep expectations low as to not be disappointed, but I wouldn't write it off just yet.
@UnknownReader You aren't the only one. I'm not really into fighting games and the Smash hype has always escaped me.
@Arcamenel Me too, not really into fighting games unless it's like Yakuza or Kenka Bancho.( they have to be with some story base )
It’s absolutely maddening when trolls take over a comment section, spout nonsense looking to start crap and then get a bunch to respond.
SMH. Hit ignore.
@YummyHappyPills Same fears as you. If Smash is the ONLY BIG THING they talk about, and it is a basic+ port (I think people want at least a Splatoon2 level of reworking) and is the center of the showcase; then they only announce a bunch of OLD games rereleased (PS ports from yrs ago) + don't have anything "new"; if they also don't talk about FE or Metroid; if Pokemon looks like it's been given a "Star Allies" level of accessibility, I think the goodwill from last year finally will be burned off. Switch will still sell well, but not be hyped at all. This year has been soooo boring so far, that Nintendo should be grateful the patience their fans are giving them until they ramp it up again. This E3 will either have me falling in love all over again or be "wtf are you thinking" level of zzzzz. We get the best stuff from Nintendo when they feel like a hungry underdog, so I think we should all chill on buying crap from them we "kind of" want. I don't know what to expect, in my head it's 50/50 greatness or disappointment.
@roboshort That really depends. We already have 3 of their first party games hitting this year. Let's assume they squeeze one more in. I also anticipate they will have a month for third party games only again, so while they may double up, when they do it'll need to be one big and one smaller game.
@Fuz Well the Yoshi, Fire Emblem and Smash are all guaranteed given one is confirmed, one we haven't seen since last E3 but is a 2018 title, and one was announced in February 2017 as a 2018 game we have yet to hear anything of.
The rest? Eh, I dunno. I aint psychic.
@JaxxDuffer It could...but it also couldn't. I'm in the couldn't camp simply to avoid disappointment. If I'm wrong, then it'll be a pleasant surprise!
@CaPPa I know there was that report that said third party support from eastern developers should show up starting 2019, which is fine. Western though....eeehhh let's keep expectations low and see how it goes? It's really hard to be optimistic on that front.
@NEStalgia I just find Yoshi a bit....basic? Easy? Not that intuitive? Dunno. It's something that never clicked with me.
As for Smash I'm probably not hyped because unlike with Smash 4, I dont have a large social gathering of other students around me to play with so its like...yay single player...
And Fire Emblem I have tried multiple times and it's just not a genre for me.
@Tarolusa Their press release for 2017 said "Primarily focusing on 2017 games". For 2018 it says straight up that 2019 games wont be featured at E3.
Now I'm one to take them at their word.
@Agent721 That person is not trolling, they're giving legit concerns from a perceived pattern they feel is emerging. They've giving opinions without being all caps NEGATIVE.
@Krull
They announced 4 third party games at each of the last two directs so it's not unprecedented.
@NEStalgia
"my eyes are on Microsoft to wow me this E3."
I'm actually the same. They've been hyping it up and they need a big showing, especially where exclusives are concerned.
Though I'm optimistic about Nintendo as well, I think they've got plenty for the rest of 2018 we don't know about. After the Wii U/3DS years it's taking a while to get used to optimism where Nintendo are concerned but I'm getting there.
@Tarolusa I believe last year they said something along the lines of "This presentation will have a focus on 2017 games", and this year they're saying it's ONLY 2018 games. Small difference in wording, but it's entirely possible that we don't see any 2019 games this year.
What an...interesting...comment section. How about we wait until AFTER E3 before reaching a verdict on how good/bad it was, hmm?
@YummyHappyPills
I get the Western 3rd party concerns. I expect the usual late rushed ports that nobody wants, that are lacking features and priced too high. Then when they don't sell they'll say that their games just don't sell on Nintendo systems.
Luckily for me I'm not too concerned about Western games as there isn't much released nowadays that interests me. Red Dead Redemption 2 and Spiderman are the only Western games on my radar; everything else seems to be battle royale based or just dull. I'm hoping that the Avengers game makes an appearance though and is something good. I don't expect many surprises from Sony but any games at all would be a surprise from Microsoft right now.
Maybe we'll get lucky and get a couple of decent Switch 3rd party exclusives, something like Mario + Rabbids. Bethesda have been a good supporter so maybe we'll see something new from them.
My most wanted Switch games are Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4 and Fire Emblem; so as long as they are shown (or dated) then I'm good and anything else is a bonus.
Wow, they really found a unique title this time.
It's interesting that Sony are opting out of the stage presentation this year. Will it be just this year or for the foreseeable future I wonder? Microsoft will follow soon I suspect. And people said Nintendo were mad when they decided to do it (well they probably said they were over rather than mad tbh). I do miss the stage presentations though. Nothing beats that crowd reaction.
@Tarolusa You and I both!
@electrolite77 @YummyHappyPills Yoshi: Hmm, I can't speak for the new one but Yoshi in general is a pretty challenging platformer. It's a mix of the 2D and 3D genres where it's a 2D platformer based around finding all the well hidden painfully placed things, so you kind of set your own difficulty. They have clever level design though. Well, ok, the DS remake didn't but 3DS was good and Yarn was fantasitc.
Smash, hmh, you know I never even thought of "large social gathering of people to play Smash with". Games are kind of social poison for anyone older than school age, and I'm far enough removed from that to have spent my school gaming time defending Nintendo from the Sega obsessed cool kids. To me it's always been about single player, couch co-op, or randoms online (I did play with some Splatoon players once or twice and got trashed....they, as it turns out, were competitive Smashers.... )
I don't think Nintendo will have too much to wow us. They already have a ton of stuff we know about, and they're not going to steal from future years (I still wish they'd cover E3 to E3 rather than just E3 to Dec 31 though...) It's just a lot of stuff that doesn't interest me much personally. FE's big but I can't get excited. Tennis, Smash, etc. are all side games to me. Even the SF Racing would be a side game to me. So Pokemon, AC, are really the only two big not unexpected things they could bring to interest me. Maybe they'll drop some shockers but with only covering 6 months of games....I don't expect it.
They should stick with Nintendo Direct. People already know that name.
Hope they have a good amount of announcements as usual. If the Next Official Mario Kart game with 16 or 20 NEW Nitro and Retro Tracks for the Switch can be announced to be in Development then I’ll finally consider getting my hands on a Switch myself, thus putting my worries aside about these Switch Ports of Wii U games.
This certainly is a 2nd though with Nintendo doing a Direct for E3 this year. One of these years we certainly could use an explanation as to why they’ve been forgoing Press Conferences for E3 since 2013.
I have at least one game for each of the next few months I plan to buy so any other announcements that I'm interested in would just be gravy on top.
@johnvboy We can be sure they won't give us Mother 3, so therefore it will be crap.
I don't care what it's called or what the theme of it is, as long as we get good games!
@Tarolusa @UnknownReader
That makes three! I 'retired as champion' after I conquered all of my friends with Kirby in OG Smash at a birthday party in like 2000.
I was the only non-N64 owner, instead I did some owning of my, um, own.
A lot of moves from Kirby Super Star we're the same button combinations in Smash. Otherwise I suuuucked at that game. Still do!
Do note that the title has been removed from their website, for some reason...
But who cares what the presentation is called; I just want to see some new games (Prime 4, the StarFox racing game from Retro, and Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee in particular as they have already been rumored).
@CuriousUserX90 I think mostly because press conferences are expensive, slightly outdated (notice even EA and MS do theirs outside E3 now), involve balancing investor/partner/consumer interests at once which Nintendo isn't very good at, and because as a VERY Japanese company, with nearly all their key people (up to now with the incoming president anyway) speaking only Japanese, and the NOA office kept on a tight leash and unable to really speak for themselves for the most part, a big E3 press conference really dosn't work for them. It doesn't work for Squeenix either....see the awkwardness from their shows....) Plus they have TGS to do some live stuff as well which is more their "turf." They did a stage show for the Switch launch....in Tokyo.....and the translation proved why doing that at E3 doesn't work for them
@YummyHappyPills @NEStalgia
Yoshi has a very patchy history but Island and Wooly World are brilliant games.
I'm not a big fan of Smash at all myself. Never a huge pokemon fan either but if they're trying something different I'm interested. Thing is if all they had for the last 5 months of the year was new Pokemon, Smash, Fire Emblem and Yoshi they would sell everything they could make. However I suspect there's more even if its another port and/or Starfox GP and/or Pikmin.
@CuriousUserX90
The explanation would probably be 'because it made sense and has proven to be a good decision'
Can we change it back to Nintendo Digital Event please?
I prefer digital event it just seems modern to me
Shakespeare once said that, forgive me if I misquote this (it's been a while since I've read Romeo & Juliet), a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
No matter what they call the event, it's the games that matter. Here's hoping for a bunch of pleasant surprises!
Video presentation*
June 12, 9:00 am PT | 12:00 pm ET
Get a look at Nintendo Switch games for 2018, including Super Smash Bros.™
Afterwards, stay right here for livestreaming events throughout E3.
*Name not final
That's so Nitnedo, even the name of their pre-made game trailer montage has to be a secret.
I still can't believe they're calling it "SS Bros." though. They already have a game w/ that exact name, it's on the N64. Not that "SSB Switch" is the stuff of legend, but try something. I liked both Melee and Brawl, why move away from that? Did their dictionary run out of verbs or adjectives or whatever?
Can Nintendo make it 3 in a row? Their last 2 E3s have been nothing short of sensational. Not long to go (and the Star Fox rumours sound ace!)
I know some are still worried that Smash is a port. I have to think this is somewhat new. It most likely will use old assets, but it would not be in Nintendo’s best interest to build their E3 around a port.
That said, I’m having trouble getting hyped about this E3. I understand that Smash is a fan favorite, but I am so bad at these fighting games.
I guess I’m more looking forward to the other games. Pokémon would be nice. The Star Fox Grand Prix doesn’t excite me too much. If we get something on Prime 4, it should be a success.
Combine E3 and Direct.
E-rect 2018.
Too easy.
@rjejr I'm still thinking "port" not new game. Not sure why they'd dedicate all of E3 to a port but "Super Smash Bros. on Nintendo Switch" screams port to me.
@NEStalgia I dont' think it's a port for various reasons.
One, only really Nintneod gets to call it a port, and they won't. I'm not even sure they ever even called MK8 Deluxe a port of MK8, they called it MK8D. Well maybe they called it a port but I never heard it. They didn't call Spaltoon 2 a port of Spaltoon 1 but it looks like a port to me. And the more they add the more it looks like a port. Have they called HW a port? Captain Toad?
Ok lets say all of those are ports, except Spaltoon 2, it's just understood that they are, so next.
What's included. Or more precisely what isn't included. A port is usually the same game w/ some stuff added maybe. Here's what I think they'll drop.
1. amiibo support, b/c they don't sell them anymore. Why promote what people can't get? And that was a big part of SSBU promotion.
2. 8 player, b/c 8 player in tabletop mode is impossible. And how many people own 8 Joycon?
3. Mii fighters. And all of their 50c DLC.
4. Miiverse level. And anything else Miiverse related.
So before anything gets added, that's all cut. Can you cut that much and still call it a port? Half a port maybe.
Then there's stuff they'll add. We already know about the Inklings but there will be more new characters and levels as well. IT's just not going to look like the same game. Plus if they mix and match some stuff from the Wii U and 3DS versions it wont' be the same as either 1 of those. So it's not a port any more than those 3rd Pokemon games were, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, back before they started making dual sequels. At least I've never heard of those 3rd games referred to as ports.
So you get cut stuff, added stuff, and stuff from 2 games mixed and matched. Not sure that's a port.
Now I used to think it was a port if it used the same engine, but apparently other games have used the same engine - Galaxy 1 & Galaxy 2, Zelda OoT and MM - so just using the same engine doesn't make it a port.
And after thinking about it more this week I fear for it being a subscription service game, w/ only a few characters, maybe 24, available day 1 w/ the rest being doled out 2 every 2 weeks or something. Works for Splatoon and ARMS and DB, why not SSB?
Now w/ all that said, I do think there are people who will call it a port anyway, just b/c, but I don't think Nintendo will be one of those people.
My real concern is will this question even be answered by the time E3 is over? I'd like to think so, btu we'll see.
One thing we do know for sure, w/ those 8 "Pro" players in the invitational, I'm sure they'll be able to say if it plays like the Wii U version or a new version. Even if SSBU isn't their thing and they play Brawl or Melee instead surely they know how the U game plays and this is a port or not. Unless Nitneod is paying them all to say it's anew game.
@rjejr so, the tl;dr is: it's a port?
@NEStalgia I think port or no port is too binary and discriminatory against games by pre-determining their portness or lack thereof. SSB will be able to use whatever bathroom it wants.
@rjejr Sooo....it's a port but we'll pretend not to notice it's a port for the sake of inclusion?
Doublethink never seemed so doubleplusungood.
@NEStalgia No, I think it's more like it's not a port that everyone will argue is a port for the sake or argument as it seems like half of Switch's AAA games are Wii U ports so Nintendo deserves the heat. Mario Kart 8, Pokken, HW, DKTF, BotW vs Odyssey, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Kirby, XC2. That's 5 to 5 ports vs new games. Rabbids is Ubi, and 1 2 Switch and Labo are not AAA. So basically it's a coin toss if SSB is a port or not. Mario Tennis isn't out yet, but neither is Captain Toad, so that's 6 v 6. SSB is the tie breaker.
I still think the argument can be made that Spaltoon 2 is a port. I'll bet you 90% of people watching a Yotuube video for Splatoon 1 or Splatoon 2 can't tell the difference as long as you aren't doing Salmon Run. Now Salmon Run is different, but is it any more different than battle arenas in MK8D, which is a self described port?
1 more month and we should know for sure. We probably won't, b/c Nintendo, but the name will help, as well as amiibo support. I think if you can't play next to your amiibo then it isn't a port, that was too much a part of the marketing of the U Game. My kids still play it when I buy old amiibo on clearance to level them up. Takes about 3 hours to go from 0 to 50. Mii fighters could go either way I suppose, not making them a dividing line. amiibo being in the game for skins doesn't count, you have to be able to make them fight. If they are in the game and you can level them up to 100 it is a port.
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