Random: Atari Is Working On Its First Home Console Since The Ill-Fated Jaguar

Can't wait for Tempest 10,000

They should call it the Atari Panther. Ataribox sounds lame and that wooden veneer reminds me of old-school TV's and American station wagons.

Kind of a bad time to join the console market again, what with the PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox One, Xbox One X, and the Switch.

I have no idea what Atari is up to, but I really want to know! I grew up with an NES, but in the late 90's discovered Atari for myself and enjoyed their library of arcade games. If they are going to revive some old IPs or do something entirely different, I really want to know about it!

"Believed to be based on PC hardware" makes me think of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_USA

Basically, a PC in an Atari case, possibly with emulated Atari games.

Wait, Atari still exists? I thought they died out after that crash. Amazing to see how they've got the guts to still make a console. Perhaps they won't compete with Sony and the like but will be a sort of NES Classic Edition or the upcoming Mega Drive Classic or something.

My first ever memory of gaming was my uncle plugging in his brand new 2600 one Xmas morning and playing Adventure and Centipede,blew my mind.I had to wait until the next Xmas to get my own.For a few years,I loved that thing like nothing else before moving onto the Speccy.That was a long time ago though,both those machines are well of their time and I have no desire to play any of their games again.They were so far off being arcade quality and it was obvious to me at the time,never mind over 30 years later.

I'm assuming of course that this will just be an official retro console similar to the Mini NES.

Ah, the feels~

Well what do you know.
The whole thing had become rather confusing while Atari was actually just Infogrames in disguise anyway.

My very first console was an Atari back when I was six maybe seven years old. I'm surprised that they're still around.

Hard to say much...don't know what they're doing. If it is an emulator machine, it could sell, the nostalgia is there. If it's trying to be more than that...they really picked a time to crash the party.

I thought Atari was defunct? With their last few franchises being developed by Namco Bandai. I guess I'm just slow to the news they were still going

@0upshroom7 The company still exists merely to keep trademarks and copyrights. It'll be so weird if they do go back into hardware development though...

Maybe revamps of classics would do okay, but I don't think many would spend much time on their retro stuff at this point... Well, maybe M.U.L.E.? That one definitely deserves a remake!

Other than the Atari 2600, what piece of hardware was decent? None, go away Atari. You haven't done anything since the late 70's and you almost killed the video game market.

I'm interested.

@OorWullie off topic: I'm still waiting for my indie go go handheld speccie! It was supposed to come out before the Switch but...well....it's a long and sordid story which I'll leave up to googling if you're not familiar with it.

On topic:Good for Atari! Would love to see another strong player enter the market, competition is good for us gamers .

Judging from that reveal trailer the Ataribox is only going to have 1 game, Metroid Prime 4.

@Biff_ARMStrong The Atari 7800 wasn't a bad piece of kit, it was simply a suped up Atari 2600 with backward compatibly, though not with Atari 5200 carts mind you. But Atari was meant to release it before the NES came out, but because of the crash Atari held onto it until the console market came back. And by then the 7800 looked really dated compared to the NES and the Master System.

I hope this is successful because I would love to see a new competitor in the console market. But at the same time, I'm also skeptical. A lot of people don't know how difficult it is to create a dedicated video game console from scratch, not only does it take years but it also takes millions of dollars into R&D, marketing, developing games, and making deals with 3rd parties. So whatever Atari is doing I hope they get everything planned correctly

@crackafreeze That's if Atari will actually develop the games. I doubt they're going to get a lot of third party support, so Atari needs to hire a whole bunch of people to develop games for this new system. But remember when they released those "New" Atari games a few years back? Look at the new Yar's Revenge, what a total let down that was! The last time an Atari property was put to good use was the recent VR BattleZone game, and even then, that wasn't developed by Atari, but Rebellion, a UK development team who made the Sniper Elite franchise.

@SepticLemon I own the Atari 7800 and it's my preferred system to play on. That system though at the time was a complete embarassment. Yes, we can all appreciate their early history, but they flushed all that down the drain. I sure as hell won't buy another piece of hardware with that name on it

Trying to understand what the Ataribox will do that the upcoming flashback consoles won't? Interesting to say the least. As a big Atari fan I'm intrigued!

I think it will be an emulation box of their classics mixed with a user interface similar to Ouya. Maybe not as extensive but still open-source and capable of accepting future downloads. Providing some type of longevity for a product like this is key. Coding basic 2-bit graphics and allowing for future game packs would do that.

I was waiting years for a new SEGA console.

Turns out we get an Atari one ...

The Ataribox name is a terrible choice. Besides that I am intrigued. I'm an old man so my first home console experiences happened on the Atari VCS. For nostalgia alone I will follow where this story leads. I do remember my first day plugging in my NES though and being amazed at how much better the graphics were, but also highly confused how to play Super Mario Bros on the gamepad. I died so many times at the first goomba and jumping over chasms in 1-1. Now that game is like clockwork and it irks me if it is not emulated 100% accurately. Last though about Atari - I would love to see some of the classic artwork revived and games that live up to the vivid late 70's /early 80's artwork that made my youthful imagination soar.

Well...this is interesting. I should probably keep an eye on it.

Ah for once in this life time this is not a Kickstarter project. Welcome back Atari, now show us some games and maybe just maybe I may give you a chance.

I bet it will be a Indies' Machine.

Curious, but ultimately not interested. Wonder how long it will take MicroSoft to sue them over the "ataribox" name....

@bluedogrulez It's probably just a codename like the Steam Box (Steam Machine), NX (Switch), and the Scorpio (Xbox One X), we won't know the final name until Atari finalize the product.

For those who think that this will just be Atari's version of the NES Classic, keep in mind that there already have been a gajillion Atari plug and play consoles in the past two decades. Atari used to give these licenses left and right almost to the point you might have thought these games are in public domain. Bundle Stars just recently had a deal for 100 atari games (steam keys) for about $4. If emulating Atari games was this consoles purpose, something a toaster can do, they probably wouldn't have such a vague trailer.

That said, Atari is a shell right now. This corporation is not Atari some of you might think it is. Rather, it's a separate corporation that bought out Atari's license after the chapter 11 bankruptcy a few years back.

@crackafreeze What I mean is that games that are owned by Atari, are not being developed by Atari. They'll give people the right to use their intellectual property to make a new Atari game like Missile Command, Yar's Revenge, Pong, etc.

@joey302 well they couldnt be any worse in build quality or emulation

Heard this over the weekend. Will it be a new system to compete with Nintendo Sony and Microsoft or just a new 'nes classic' type thing?

Very limited information but my god it's got people talking about Atari again.

Wait and see I guess

@MonkiPlays I've already requested developer info from them. Looks interesting to me.

@readyletsgo Atari CEO Fred Chesnais said at E3 that this product will be a new Atari console based on PC hardware. It's not a plug and play, not an emulation box, not a clone system, not a retro system, and not an Android device. It will be a new console with its own library of game, Atari just happen to announce this so developers and consumer will know that they are back. Though I'm not too fond of the past Atari and their many mistakes, this new Atari seem interested to enter so I look forward to whatever they had in mind. It's nice to have a new console in this generation for change other than seeing the same stuff from Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all the time.

I wonder if it will have prequel games to today's popular games, but done in old-school Atari graphics.

Im getting one.

@readyletsgo Brand new modern PC spec console.

I am dating myself, but my first intro to the gaming world centered on the 2600. I remember we first received the 5200, but their controller had issues so it was taken back for the 2600.

While the 2600 introduced me to video games, it didn't really mesmerize me the way the NES did, but there were still some gems I really enjoyed. Jungle Hunt, Empire Strikes Back, and Pitfall to name a few.

I will approach this with guarded optimism, I guess. I am really going to need to see what the go-to-market strategy is though.

@bluedogrulez It wont. Its not possible.

@Yasaal The crash was 83', the jaguar came out in 93'.

I doubt Atari have the resources to fund enough games to hold a system by itself. I also doubt they have enough good relations with third parties to get their games on their system.

I don't see this being anything too epic, but I do like the idea of an old classic company coming back from the ashes to reclaim their place in the console market. I just wish it was Sega... (Atari are a tiny bit before my time).

If it's a new console similar to the Jag, then count me in, but if it's another NES Mini type thing, then it's a no from me.

@YANDMAN Oh. Didn't notice that, sorry. Still strange to see Atari try to come back to the industry.

@KirbyTheVampire not to mention the eventual PS4K Pro, Xbox One XOneXboxOneOneX, and the Switch XL hehe.

I hope that Atari finds its niche in today's market, though. An iconic brand deserves at least that.

It's not gonna happen, but how cool would it be if somehow this became another major player in the console wars?

What niche is this trying to fill? Inexpensiveness? Portability? Personally, I'd like to see a console that can be upgraded over time by swapping parts or adding to the base unit like a PC. Of course, we all know this can fail if not property supported with compelling software (the whole Sega Genesis / 32FX / SegaCD thing).

Meh, call me when they announce the Dreamcast 2.

That first paragraph is pure simplistic history. Atari didn't trigered the crash. It was the huge amount of third party offerings that flooded the market with bad games. Game "Journalists" keep saying that ET and Pac-man created the crash but the market was already exploding by then (by the way Pac-man was the most sold game on the 2600).

Do some real research instead of pulling things out from your butt

I really hope they know what they are doing, since it doesn't seem the Best time for them to enter the market.

one thing is for sure.
it will be better than the n64.
name one system that wasnt.

They wouldn't be able to make modern first party games. Console would rely entirely on 3rd parties.

@Biff_ARMStrong a little respect please. If it wasn't for atari we're not even on this thread right now! And for the record the crappy deal for ET for $23 million dollars to Spielberg was made by warner bros on Atari's behalf in which Warner didn't have a clue about video games back then. And yes ET was crap but Atari was only given 5 weeks to program it. Watch one of the various documentaries available to us. And The 7800 was a great console but came 2 years later in 1986 under new Atari ownership once they saw the NES flying off the shelf!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
And ya know. The Atari 2600.

Maybe Atari will signal the next crash...like a harbinger of doom. Bring it on.

There's no room for another console. PS4 currently dominates with Xbone still licking at it's heels, Switch is just getting started hitting the ground running... and then there's PC's, mobiles and tablets everywhere. No matter how much people want to trash talk their least favorite console, I think everyone can agree that the big three are the only ones capable of making (somewhat of) a profit in the console hardware market.

Cast your minds back to that horrible mess that was once called the Ouya and tell me it won't end up the same way.

Besides, Xbox has the power (now), PS4 has the games and Switch has the portability/versatility. What could a fourth machine possibly cover to get people onboard? There just doesn't seem like there's a chance for this.

I'm not too optimistic but I hope they do well. I played my very first console games on a 2600 in the early 80s and it holds a special place in my heart as a result. Good luck Atari!

@ogo79 The N64 was awesome though, whatcha talking about? It came out and completely show what Atari did wrong with 64-Bit.

If Atari does bring powerful hardware and good 3rd party games, holy crap! That could really shake things up!

But I doubt it. Who knows though. This industry is unpredictable at times. Really wish Atari best of luck and maybe support them as well.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE The Atari Panther was actually the cancelled 32-bit predecessor to the Jaguar.

I remember I was upset that they cancelled it because the magazine I saw the blurb for the Panther in had a pic of a port of Race Drivin', the sequel to their arcade hit Hard Drivin', which I was a big fan of back in the day. Then the Jaguar came out and I thought they would port Race Drivin' over to it, but it never happened. Interestingly, the base game engine would be reworked years later into the Rush series of arcade racing games.

Ugly...

@Retron Infogrames rebranded as Atari, but also folded. This is a third company that bought the Atari brand rights.

Mmm atari what are you up to? Can they keep up with the competition? I hope so.

If Atari can get it right this time, a fourth system is a wildcard that might be the first real major shakeup in the video game market since 2001 when Sega left and Microsoft came in.

The question is, can Atari do this? Their track record since the 2600 is spotty at best, and many of their franchises like Gauntlet, Marble Madness, Paperboy, Rampage, etc are in the hands of Warner Bros after Midway folded.

If Atari can put out a powerful system that's somehow cheaper then the Xbox One X or even considered next gen, they could shake up the video game market.

But they need strong third-party support, and to make some damn good first-party games as well.

Can Atari do this? Maybe, but it will be a challenge. But a fouth system could be the shot in arm the gaming market so desperatly needs.

Because quite frankly, the gaming market is pretty much Sony, Microsoft, and PC fanboys having p***ing contests over which system renders a blade of grass better while Nintendo sits in a corner doing their own thing.

This has been the market for the last 10 years.

Maybe Atari can cause a shakeup and get the big three out of the rut that they seem to be coasting by with.

I don't know, I grew up in the 2600 era and very much remember the garbage that was the 5200, 7800 and Jaguar. Nostalgia has me interested but very skeptical.

@joey302 It is heavily documented Atari almost killed the video game market. ET is not the main focus point on blame. Pac-man was an even bigger disappointment. They produced way too many games and suckered people out of their hard earned cash. Their last console also con'd people into thinking their crappy Jaguar was 64 Bit

I remember playing Doom on my Atari Jaguar. Syndicate was a cool game too.

If they jumped into counsels now I can't imagine them being successful. Playstation and Xbox are for true gamers and Switch is incredibly successful so far with more casual gamers and the younger generation. I don't see Atari making much of a dent but good luck!

Are we going to get another oversaturation of consoles on the market, resulting in the Video Game Crash of '18 (or whenever this comes out)?

A new E.T. game had better be a launch title!

"... triggering the infamous "Video Game Crash" which poisoned so many western retailers on the idea of consoles."
Well, North American ones.
Oh wait, "The West" only includes North America in Nlife's description. I forgot.

@setezerocinco

Maybe, but what's the hook? A less portable Switch? A weak PC with a walled-off Atari store? An x86 Ouya? Plus, Atari games are near-ubiquitous. I really don't see the point.

Unless it's something like Andre LaMothe's XGamestation that's intended to teach "to the metal" game development. Doubtful, but that would be cool.

@RainbowGazelle I don't understand - are you counting Amiga, ZX Spectrum, and Commodore 64 as consoles?

@RainbowGazelle
Consoles pretty much didn't sell particularly well in the European territories until the arrival of the first PlayStation. Atari didn't trigger a "crash" in Europe because there wasn't much to crash to begin with.

@keihtg I had a 32X for my Genesis, but I can't remember what game I had for it. I think it was a fighting game. I never had a SegaCD, though.

I'd rather see a game system with interchangeable parts. Like the N64's RAM Expansion Pack. That was pretty cool.

@Biff_ARMStrong almost being the key word. Yea Pac man 2600 was crap too. It also didn't help the industry at that time that a slew of third party crap was being released for the 2600 as well. Atari had no quality control over that from the very day the courts favored Activision being allowed to produce games for the 26. But probably The worst thing that happened to Atari was Nolan Bushnell selling the company to Warner Bros in the first place to step away from a stressful business environment!

@joey302 "Almost" as in Nintendo saved the market from disappearing permanently. Nintendo resurrected the industry from the ash's that Atari burnt to the ground. They still wouldn't go away, they had to con people into thinking the Jaguar was 64 bit, meanwhile it looked like crap and the Super Nintendo's FX micro chip looked way better!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Bro, seriously...... it was not just station wagons - our minivan had it too! 80's nostalgia. That's why I think it's their version of NES mini.

That's cool. My aunty should like that. That's her era of gaming. She kicks my butt in Pac-Man and Galaga.

I'm curious though. Is it gonna be a nostalgia machine or will they make brand new games for it?

Now all we need is for Sega to successfully rejoin.

@Biff_ARMStrong I DO credit Nintendo for resurrecting the market. Don't get me wrong. All I'm saying is Atari wasn't completely to blame for the crash. You also had Mattel & Colecovision in that crash equation. And you keep mentioning the Jag as if that was the same Atari! Completely different set of people/ownership. Was Not the original company.
EDIT: let me just add that any seasoned knowledgeable gamer knows that Atari is responsible for creating some of the greatest games ever made. Timeless yet simple and yet still very playable today. Asteroids, Centipede, Tempest, Paperboy, Gauntlet, Millipede, Battlezone, Missle Command, APB, Warlords, and many others!

This isn't Atari Atari, this is Infrograms that bought Hasbro that bought Atari Games. It's Atari in name only.

@joey302 i'm just simply giving reasons why Atari is garbage and that a company like that should never be trusted or even be invested on. Atari 2600 had a bittersweet ending, Atari 5200 was complete garbage, Atari 7800 holds up today but at the time was a complete joke, and the Atari Jaguar was a complete scam and one of the biggest failures in history. Atari is garbage, there is no debating that. Aside from the fun Activision and Imagic games we know and love, there isn't much positive things to say about it

Me: "Time to dig out my old E.T cartridge."
Atari: "Time to dig up those old E.T cartridges."

@Captain_Gonru The Ataribox is a box filled with empty Atari 2800 boxes.

Sorry, I'm not a big fan of teaser reveals that don't reveal anything. Either show something or STFU.

I'm ok w/ them doing it, slap some ROMs on a Raspberry Pii, Nintendo is the only company stupid enough to think retro gaming systems won't sell, let it be up-gradable. I very seriously doubt we're talking new game console. Do they really want to compete w/ Ouya? Or that ugly Steambox?

I'm sure some type of Atari Switch could sell, handheld w/ tv out. I'm not sure how many gaming rights they own, I think they pretty much just bought the logo way back when, but those Atari's had some decent games. Atari 7800 is hooked up in my kids room. We only own about 5 of the original carts and I think only 1 or 2 of those are really even worth playing, but we'd get an Ataribox.

Not if it's a "holiday only item" though. I swear I want to punch then in the face some times.

My shovel is ready!

I can't imagine what they're playing at. If they're building some powerful PC console to play 3rd party games on.....how exactly do they plan to confront Sony AND Microsft AND the PC ecosystem, let alone Switch from the sidelines. And if it's just a retro console....don't we already have Atari retro consoles? Other than looking cooler, how does it differ? And how on earth would they convince third parties to make their games on a 4th platform.....particularly when that 4th platform is called "Ataribox?"

@blaisedinsd "Atari collapsed because they gave too much freedom to third-party developers and the market was swamped with rubbish games."
-Hiroshi Yamauchi, 1986

An Atari console relying on 3rd parties....I feel like I've seen this before....heck, I thought the XBox got too close to comfort for that....all it's been missing is the logo and the woodgrain...and here we are.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Dash you, wood veneer is where it's at! I still have some of my old 80's wood veneer stuff. Cheesy, maybe, but it was an awesome style that should never have gone away. That alone might make me buy this thing (along with my old 2600.)

This is gonna be Big. Mark my words........

@aaronsullivan This is how we in Ireland knew the Atari 2600.

@Biff_ARMStrong well you see that's where we differ I guess. The 5200 I enjoyed the hell outta it even though the controllers were a huge mistake! But for 1982 had a great amount of close arcade translations. The 7800 was introduced in 1984 at the summer CES but then Atari was purchased by the Tramiel family and was shelved until 1986 so they can focus on the Atari ST computers. But for 1984 the 7800 was amazing technology with backwards compatibility with the 2600 with a return to the self centering joystick and a second fire button as well. Not as amazing in 1986 when it finally made it to stores. A lot can happen Technology wise in 2 years even back then! It also couldn't get any third party support along with the Sega master system due to Nintendo locking everyone up for the NES. Again, Atari made many mistakes but you talk as if Nintendo hasn't? You point out the N64, a great console that I still love, but choosing the cart format over CD was a huge mistake on Nintendos part and losing many devs like squaresoft etc was the end result of that choice. The result was Sony beat the snot outta them with PSONE. And Nintendo has been behind in the console race ever since with the arguable exception of the Wii.
But calling Atari garbage is harsh and almost borderline ignorant. Sorry my opinion. The Wii U also a console I love, wasn't exactly genius on their part either.

@Yasaal The real Atari died in 1996. The current Atari is a game developer/publisher originally known as Infogrammes who bought the Atari IP from Hasbro, who bought when Atari when bankrupt.

In the late 2000s, I think, is when Infogrammes legally changed its name to Atari.

Atari new skinned IPs to look forward to:
Pong
Breakout
Warlords
Asteroids
Missile Command
Centipede
Gauntlet
Yar's Revenge
Tempest
Fatal Run
Adventure and
Swordquest

@Priceless_Spork the big 3 have been crying about not securing those for years. Atari will clearly rise to the top with IPs such as these! 😆

@ogo79 quality b8

@Carlos1996 That's pretty much what I was going to say here.

There were 2 Atari's...the Arcade group (Bushnell's group) and then the Console group, headed by Tramiel, who bought it after Commodore got rid of him. The console group crashed and burned long ago, with the name being the only thing worth buying.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE in the states that was the 2600 Jr 😊

@joey302 I've read that before but to me and my friends growing up this was just the Atari 2600. I had quite a good few games for it. Centipede of course, Jungle Hunt, Crossbow, Dodge'em.

I think America knew Jungle Hunt as Pitfall. There were other games on their that were good but I remember them better on other systems, e.g. Moon Patrol, River Raid, Pac-man, Frogger.

@Anguspuss after a few hours of pondering, maybe just maybe this so called Ataribox will play host to the classic Atari catalog and maybe just maybe they're reaching out to other 3rd parties that are sitting on tons of classics that the box can also play host to as well. Konami, Sega, Capcom, Taito, stern, SNK, Activision, Bally/Midway, Irem, Data East, Hamster. I'm sure I missed a few. And All delivered digitally to the Ataribox?!? Hmmmm 🤔🤔🤔

For those who don't know this Atari is the new Atari that was once Infogrames, not the old Atari that made the 2600, 5200, 7800, Lynx, and Jaguar.

The old Atari:

The new Atari:

@SLIGEACH_EIRE actually pitfall and Jungle hunt were completely different games by Activision and Taito respectively, and both were great games! River Raid is a great game as was Kaboom, Stampede and a slew of others. Dodge em was fun as well!! And while pac man was famously bad as an arcade port, frogger was a pretty damn good translation! Some arcade ports were just too much for the 2600 to handle technically. Good ole times though. I didn't hesitate one bit grabbing both Atari Flashback discs on PS4 and Xbox one at all! Awesome having Atari classics on the current gen consoles. Too bad they didn't make a switch version!! Oh well! 😊

I hope it's something in the console market. I would love to see Atari Re-emerge into the Console game. It's probably nothing that exciting though. I would also love to see Sega emerge into a console. Well I'm going to join Ataris mailing list

@retro_player_22 good points however it can be argued from an ownership standpoint that the Jag and Lynx fell into the category of the "new Atari" I just realized too that however it happened, I'm pretty sure the "current Atari" lol owns the Test Drive Series as well. Though it's been a while! PS- Tempest 2000 for the Jag was amazing!! The Jag had a solid 10-15 good games which wasn't bad considering the small library!

Somewhere it was said that Atari was working with another company on the new console. What company could that be?

Introducing SEGA ATARI! It has a nice ring to it, don't ya think?

@Captain_Gonru River Raid at the time was one of the best games ever. I don't know how, but it was. And somehow Pitfall, despite being a horrible mess of a 2D platformer, became way more famous than River Raid. What's up with that?

Finished ep 14 of season 2 of Shield. You should have just told me to skip season 2, that was the most filler episode of any show I've ever scene. I kept waiting for the A-Team to show up and give it a purpose. I'm pretty sure Talbot is based on Colonel Lynch.

Jessica Jones is coming along slowly. You ever see Breaking Bad? You can start at episode 6 of season 1, changed the whole show around. Wasn't really liking it so far but I can see where its' going now.

#1 - We're about three companies/owners of the brand removed from "real" Atari.

#2 - It's always amazing and infuriating to see how many self-professed gamers have no actual knowledge of the industry as a whole (and the '83 crash in particular), but instead just repeat the same non-truths that just get regurgitated over and over again by half-arsed YouTuber and gamer site "experts". But I was frankly dumbfounded to see such a simplistic comment which is patently wrong in the opening paragraph of this article (and i'll spare my usual obligatory comment regarding the level of short-cut journalism by the article's author; not looking to bark at that tree today).

#3 - Also quite disappointed with many of the commenters here ... just because you're kids doesn't mean you need to be willfully ignorant. Atari, the real Atari (and more specifically, the original cadre of programmers, most of which left to found Activision) was basically The Beatles of the video game industry. Show some respect and educate yourselves.

All that being said, i'll keep my eye on this, but i don't expect much out of it (assuming it ever actually sees the light of day). I expect at best it'll go the way of the Ouya for example — plenty of people get hyped, the system comes out, and the overall reaction is just "meh" because it's just not all that good or even necessary to be on the market.

I can't see how they can compete in todays industry to be honest. There's not much room for them to differentiate themselves enough to offer something compelling. The only area not fully tapped would be a fully dedicated VR system.
I had a 2600 with a lot of games but I had way more fun with the superior Coleco Vision.

Whatever it is, make sure you don't come even close to touching this thing.

Atari in its current form is a rotting corpse whose skin is being worm by other corporations who license out the Atari brand to whomever gets them the quickest buck.

Atari is gone, and it's not coming back. Don't be fooled by nostalgia.

@SepticLemon I was so excited a few years back when I heard a new Yars Revenge was coming out . What a piece of schlock that was. No relation to the original classic, and stupid gameplay.

Reading this article and boom , prince's 'when doves cry' comes on shuffle.

Illuminati confirmed

@Retron This isn't even Infogrames Atari.

I'm not old enough to have fond memories of Atari. Quite the opposite Atari is a synonym of mediocre in my mind. The brand is tarnished.
If they really want to compete on the current gen scene, I hope they have billions to spare, consoles are an expensive business nowadays. And don't call it the "Ataribox". They could build a decent gaming PC hardware, they could even put in a better chip from AMD than the one bottlenecking PS4/One right now and sell it at a profit for like $250. Still, they need to get the games on it. And market it cleverly.

@Yasaal I think its fantastic though and im fully behind it.

This news had made me look into Atari to see what their library is. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that Wayforward reimagined Centipede for the Wii and I'm now planning to get that.

Outside of that, I see Crystal Castles, Yar's Revenge, Swordquest, Cybermorph, Fight for Life, Club Drive, and River Raid as properties that could potentially be revamped for a new audience. Nostalgia would be niche, but it could work if the reinvention is exciting.

@Spiders Yeah, I guess.
@westman98 Exactly. So Nlife shouldn't report it as such.

I'd throw some beans at it, just for nostalgia reasons. Especially if they go on the hybrid console route

I guess this will just be some kind of emulation-box (or something like the Steam-box), not a proper modern console that wants to challenge Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo.

@retro_player_22
Dude, you mention Infogrames and not this one gem?

I'd buy an Ataribox for the sequel alone, no joke.

@Captain_Gonru I'm only watching Iron Fist b/c of that Hand symbol on the pyscho guys window. And b/c I have to for Defenders. I was a big fan of the Hand back in the Daredevil - Electra comic book days.

AoS just changed too much, it went from a nice tight knit team w/ budding friendships and comedy to a bunch of broken individuals who don't even know each other any more. I like broken individuals, Brockmire >> AoS, but if on season 2 of Cheers everybody was passing out drunk on the bar and throwing up on Sam's shoes nobody would have continued watching it. We're hoping 3 more 4 more bad episodes then the last 4 or 5 will will tie it all together. I'm not expecting happiness at this point, they moved the show from 8-9PM, but coherency. I mean, it's like the only time ever in his life Edward James Amos played a character who sucked. How do you waste a guest appearance like that? Guys practically a legend.

My upstairs cousin had whatever system River Raid was on, went up there to play that a lot, but we owned Pong before that. I'm pretty sure Pong was left on earth by aliens at area 51 to make us all compliant for world conquest. When we fall, it all goes back to Pong. 2 lines and a square, it's the original "To Serve Man".

Atari are like the Mass Effect Reapers- once the gaming industry develops to a certain level they awake from the darkness and destroy the industry.
It happened 30 years ago and they are awake again.

@AlexSora89 I only show some of the games of when they (Infogrames) became Atari but yes that was a gem of a game huh. Hopefully the new Atari still had rights to that, would be awesome if it got a remake.

@KingMike Oh. Makes sense. The old Atari wouldn't show their face after that crippling defeat back then today. Oh well, let's just see how their Ataribox (badly named) does at the market.

@YANDMAN Ya many long-time fans would definitely be interested in a sort of Mini revival of Atari's consoles, while the millennials can get to understand what sort of company Atari was before. Although I won't support the Ataribox, it's good to see people still wanting to buy old games apart from today's bloody NSFW games. Maybe I might even buy an Ataribox if I feel like it. Tries to find thumbs up emoticon but is too lazy so just types it

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Why would they want to name it similar to another failure?

This thing is going to have to REALLY be good for people to even consider leaving their PS4/Xbox/Switch etc

@SepticLemon

Well, they are.

@Captain_Gonru Tonight's ep of AoS was better, they basically should have run those 2 in 1 night back-to-back as it really was a 2-parter for the most part. They let Olmos act, which was good.

Saw a story on twitter were Gamestop got in more of the Zelda amiibo and more Switch. Guess they're the place to go.

@Yasaal This isn't going to be for old games though. This is a brand new current gen system. Its going to run PC specs, so im assuming something along the lines of PS$ and XBOX1. I would actually love it if they made some HD revisions of a lot of their classics though or slightly evolved versions.

@retro_player_22
Yep, would totally settle for a remake. The Italian version of the game was dubbed spectacularly when compared to other localized PS1-era games. Case in point: the Sushi Swine squad, that is, the yellow team composed of Japanese soldiers, was changed to Suini Bellici (Belligerent Swines) in the Italian version, making them the Italian team. Each soldier had a different regional accent. It was an absolute blast (pun not intended).

@YANDMAN Really? Because if that's the case it'll definitely fail at the market bc of Sony, MS, and Nintendo going all out with their consoles. I doubt people will buy the Ataribox for that. If it ran classic games then it would survive in the market due to low competition.

@Yasaal I wouldnt be so sure. Atari still has a Huuuuuuuuuuuuge following and i know many people that are eager to dump everything else to get back on board with an Atari system.

@YANDMAN Wow. That's good to know. Most SEGA fans were completely fine with SEGA moving to games only. Good to see Atari fans still supporting a franchise on the edge of a possible come back. I guess it goes without saying that the Ataribox will make or break Atari's future too.

@Yasaal Pretty much all Atari consoles are still supported by the indie scene today, they never really went away. I myself reelased a new Atari 2600 game last year. Its this strong community that will definitely get behind a new product.

@TDS_Computer It was simply a Panzer Dragoon clone. But they didn't do a good job at it!

@Captain_Gonru I was ok w/ the ending of Flash. Well except for why wasn't 1980's dad Flash willing to go back in instead of Barry Allen like he did last time? That seemed like the obvious way out, like it already happened a dozen times already obvious. Arrow was just an unnecessary annoying cliffhanger, agreed there.

Halfway thru JJ and it took a nice turn, but probably wont' get to the rest until next week's 4 day weekend, which sadly my all-American family of 4 has no plans except to watch Netflix and play video games. My wife's family just spent 2 days with us so I'm wiped right now. 3 eps of AoS left, it finally got good and something actually happened for the first time in 8 episodes.

@Captain_Gonru Switch definitely is 1 of those items that gets delivered random days during the week but only put on the shelves Sunday morning. We're used to that happening more in November than June. I wonder if 5 years form now we'll be talking about how Switch sold 50mil but it coudl have sold 100mil btu Ntineod only sold 50mil. You know however many SNES mini they make will sell, we'll never find out that systems potential. Not even close.

You get the Zelda Expansion Pass? I'n buying it for my kids Friday but I still havent' started ti yet, it's my summer of Xbox.

@Captain_Gonru Oh, in case you didn't know, my last comment makes more sense in light of this.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/06/nintendo_announces_super_nes_classic_edition

@Captain_Gonru "I'm in need of a replacement 360"

You should have bought a clearance Xbox One at Target for $175 like I did .

Man, me and my son were looking over all of my old PS1 + PS2 demo discs today looking for Secret of Mana - I confused it w/ Brave Fencer Musuhai - and it really sucks I traded in my old PS2 phat for a Slim but um, forgot to buy a PS2 Slim so now I can't play any of them. Well I think the PS1 discs will work in the PS3, and I have a PS1 if need me. But nothing for my PS2 discs. I think I tried an emulator once and killed my DVD-ROM drive.

If you were on Twitter today you would have seen my post:
3 Switch in stock at Target, anybody know what they are going for on eBay? Kidding, I'm kidding. About eBay, they really are in stock.

So as you can see I was in Target today in the video game section and didn't even think to look for an Expansion Pass card, I so would have bought 1 just to save the 5%. I checked the flyer for a B1G1 10% eShop card sale but no look, not on Cartwheel either.

And speaking of DLC, FFXV has another 1 come out this week, then another in December. I really should have waited on that game for a complete version next year. Did make for a pretty good all around Christmas, but still. I should have got Horizon Zero Dawn or The Witcher 3 Complete instead. Does it count as a backlog if I dont' own the games yet?

@Captain_Gonru It's ok, I may just order it digitally on Amazon b/c I can.

Did you watch Tomorrow People a few years back on CW? Watched the last 2 ep of season 2 tonight and it seemed like there were a lot of similarities. Actually from the end of the last ep - Skye and Coulson at the car - season 3 of AoS is going to be all of season 1 of Tomorrow People.

Taking a few nights off for FFXV.

@Captain_Gonru How did you miss TP? It's basically season 2.5 of Flash. You should watch it just b/c, 22 epsidoes and it ends OK. It was a good season but judging by the 90 second trailer for season 2 we were glad it didn't get renewed, it was gonna be awful.

https://www.netflix.com/title/70283262

@Captain_Gonru Bought the EP on Amazon, also signed up for Prime for a month b/c I'm a sucker for a sale. Or in this case a potential sale, which makes me really sucky.

Have you read the Frank Miller DD Born Again story line way back when? Finished ep 10 of JJ last night and was impressed that anybody cared enough to cover that 1 character so subtly yet effectively.

@Captain_Gonru Kaijuly Monster Marathon.

That's what I'm going to be watching when I'm in that room at the end of Soylent Green.

https://youtu.be/yOV8mBjHHYg?t=106

Don't know if we have El Rey but I'm going out drinking w/ the old guys tonight, should be depressing.

Since you didn't read Born Again that 1 issue starts and ends w/ Nuke saying "Give me a red." And I've had that line in my head for 30 some odd years and I've always said it exactly like that actor did in his bed. And his lighter he used to burn the place down had the American flag on it like the tattoo was supposed to be on his face. And the slow mo walk out with the fire in the background was reminiscent of the last page of that issue. A lot of nice touches for what was a for me at the time a 1 shot character in 2 comics. Don't say any more, I've already spoiled the end of season 2 of DD, not that I wouldn't have seen it coming a mile away anyway, one of my all time favorite comic book lines is - "but me, I'm magic." - but it still annoys me that I was stupid enough to look up Defender stuff and spoiled it.

Never saw the Nuke toy but I 'll go look it up.

@Captain_Gonru The drinking was good. Watching the Yanks blow a 3 run lead in the 8th was good - both of my friends are Yankees fans and I'm a Met fan so Iv'e suffered more than my fair share of good natured ribbing over the years - but the 2 hour commute each way, there is always "signal trouble" on the LIRR even on Saturday nights, to drink for 3 hours is getting old the older I get. Friends are friends though, we're still all alive in our 50's, so we have that going for us.

That Nuke doll is epic-ally bad, it's like the Sonic '06 of toys. I guess they are going for that classic 1970's action figure look, but I think I could make a better 1 w/ a 3D printer. If he had a pull string that made him say "Give me a red." I'd buy it though.

@Captain_Gonru So it's July, what the new hot toy this holiday? not breaking any NDA of course.

I'm still waiting on the Mattel 3D printer that was due out last year, but no talk on that in 9 months.

https://3dprint.com/151324/thingmaker-3d-printer-delayed/

I'm guessing no new Marvel talking toy Plaything, but Disney needs to promote Star Wars and Thor so surely something stupid this year. I'm down for almost anything Infinity Guantlet related next year. You see Guardians 2 yet? Another of my favorite characters lurking in the wings. But that's 2018.

Summer is so hot and boring after E3, I'm already looking forward to September, I have no use for the heat.

@Captain_Gonru My sister demands I see Wonder Woman but she knows I'm more of a free at the library DVD kind of guy.

Watched the 1st ep of season 3 of Shield, about 80x better than any ep of season 2, so we're off to a good start.

That new Spiderman movie has fail written all over it, like every other big movie this summer - Transformers, Mummy, Pirates - though the Marvel tie in will help it out, but I feel like people overdosed on the 2nd movie in the last reboot. I forgot about Justice League this holiday. Funny story, went to see Ice Age 5 at the $1 movie last week, I see the JL poster, I say "Where's Superman?" my son says "He died at the end of Batman vs Superman" and I'm all "Spoilers?!?!?!" It was funny. I think I started watching the first 8 seconds of BvS but stopped b/c my mom called or something, never went back. I did watch "The 5 Deadly Venoms" today. You watch any of those old bad karate movies on Saturday mornings in the 80's? My kids refuse, silly kids. Now I just walk around the house saying "Brother! Brother!" It's funny if you've seen any of them.

Time for JJ. 2 days down, 2 to go.

@Captain_Gonru I think I started watching BvS b/c of the WW connection. I'll have to see if it's still on HBO. I used to watch a lot of movies, kept up to date, but kids, or life, or something. I missed Batman vs Bane, Batman 3 whatever it was called, should I watch that first or are they unrelated? Just signed up for Amazon Prime so I can spend too much money next week, will be watching Raiders otLA and Matrix, but no sequels. no time for sequels.

@Captain_Gonru Read horrible stuff about Man of Steel, or maybe it was Superman Returns, but I skipped them both. Guess i had my film from the 2 tv shows, though I stopped Smallville after it turned into Melrose Place around season 4 or 5.

I did like the 2 Batman movies I saw but the 3rd looked ridiculous, I really have no interest. Considered Suicide Squad but I've already see that in the Arrow episode and reviews were also horrific. Flash doesn't need a movie, Grant is perfect. I am looking forward to Aquaman, that Game of Thrones actor was a nice choice, I like him darker.

I was just in the library looking to catch up w/ the PoTA and new Star Trek movies. And I want to go back to X-Men First Class, I skipped it b/c 3 sucked so bad, but I feel like I should watch it before Days of Future Past, which I need to watch before Logan. Oh, and Apocalypse, though I don't want to, but I will.

So, I'll bookmark this email for when the time comes.

Oh, and you da man when it comes to no spoilers. Watched that Nuke focused ep of JJ last night, it was great. The series does feel like it's dragging on 3 eps too many - just kill him already - but it least I have hope for the last 2 - so kudos to you for not ruining anything for me, must be hard.

@Captain_Gonru Brandon Routh for me will always be the main bad guy from Chuck, which I didn't like him in. Actually I've never liked him in anything, too wooden or something. And clean cut, I don't do clean cut, the guy playing Steve Rodgers is awful. My wife hates the Nuke cop too. Barry Allen gets a pass b/c he's so nerdy.

I did see both Wolverine movies, the first horrible one and the 2nd one which was much better, but First Class looked so "Why should I care?". i still don't care, but sometimes you have to push thru the bad to get thru the good. Like all of season 2 of Shield.

OK, I'm gonna go try and play a videogame now, it's been awhile and I need to get thru my summer of Xbox so I can start Zelda BotW.

@Captain_Gonru No, still haven't started Zelda U. Watched my kids play a bunch, and it's growing on me, but I need to wait as I know once I start I wont' stop. Played Sunset Overdirve for the first time in about a month, everyone in my family said "I thought you finished this already?" So that, then finish Kameo, then 2 Banjo games and Conker, I'm skipping Nuts&Bolts, not a big car guy. And Gears 2, 3 and maybe 4 in between to break things up. Then Zelda. Or Mario Odyssey depending on how long all of that takes. Then Zelda. I should be able to get a Wolf Link amiibo by then.

@Captain_Gonru I think Mine craft is more a way of life than a game.

Started whittling away at my movie backlog with, the Star Trek reboot which I've already seen twice. My kid hadn't seen it though. Into Darkness next weekend and then Beyond after that. It's a start. It was my kids first ever ST of any kind so I told him to watch Space Seed and Wrath of Khan before we continue. We own the directors cut of the first ever Star Trek movie but I like him too much to have him sit thru that.

@Captain_Gonru Green Lantern

It's funny, out of all the movies I've avoided we saw Green Lantern - w/ Deadpool, not the cartoon - and both my wife and I really liked it. I even wanted a sequel. I guess it was too CGI or kiddie b/c I know it got universally panned, but we hated Captain America, so we're odd.

@Captain_Gonru ""kill most of the Corps, rewrite history to his own liking" evil."

So, Darth Lantern?

I suppose one of the good things about my senility is never noticing or caring about things like moons or planets. As long as I'm into the movie, I'm into the movie. I of course notice stupid stuff like that, that shot of Spock looking up at the imploding planet was awful, but I just shrug.

And if you felt that way about the reboot, well I loved the reboot all 3x I've seen it and ST was 1 of my favorite shows as a teen, but I hated into Darkness, so I recommend skipping that one. I'll probably rewatch it again this weekend, now that I know it's awful maybe I can enjoy it, then I'll let you know about Beyond which I'm hoping is good.

Finished JJ, my wife is better at non-spoilers than you, after it was over while we were watching the credits she told me that she knew he died, somebody told her at work years ago. Which I suppose means when it released. JJ was about 3 eps too long, but I think part of the problem was just how good DD was. I'm looking forward to getting back to it, even if I will be thoroughly disappointed w/ the change I still like him.

@Captain_Gonru "Purple Man dying"

I can't think of any purple man in anything we are watching, unless we are talking about Kilgrave and I missed a joke? But I wasn't saying you were bad at spoilers, just that my wife was better.

There's something about JJ Abrams that really makes me want to slap him, but I pretend it was either him or Michael Bay, so I take what I can get. ST2: Into Darkness in retrospect seemed like it was directed by Bay, I'll see how it goes the 2nd time. Watched my son watching Space Seed yesterday, Shatner is still the best. But even he is no Ricardo Montalban. Cumberbatch never stood a chance.

@Captain_Gonru No Sulu or Chekov, first thing I pointed out to my kid before he tried to pair them up in his head. And you and the internet are going to drive yourselves crazy w/ stuff like that, just enjoy what you can.

Any ST episode suggestions for my kid? So far on the list - Mirror Mirror, Trouble w/ Tribbles, Spectre of the Gun, Spock's Brain, A Piece of the Action, City on the Edge of Forever.

1 of those was a joke to see if you were paying attention.

@Captain_Gonru "that "so bad it's good" category"

That's most of season 3. He pretty much burst out laughing when he read the description including Abraham Lincoln.

He said he'll watch 5 or 6, probably not Paradise Syndrome though, we read a description on line that said "Kirk becomes a Native American. Seriously." So he'll miss out on Shatner yelling "I am Jack Kerouac!!" at the top of his longs. The white gorilla is from Private Little War, it's basically the same epsidoe, except w/ a chick in a furry orange top rather than Pocahontas. (I had to look up the title but as I always used to confuse the 2 I know remember it's 2 different epsidoes.) They had a several "repeat" type epsidoes.

He has a thing for Vulcan so Amok Time is next. It's a good choice, since I own this.

@Captain_Gonru 40% Marvel junk at Amazon.

https://smile.amazon.com/s/browse/?ie=UTF8&node=16914598011&ref=dotd_h_t&ref_=pe_837390_245032480

If the link doesn't work I think it's in Gold box deal of the day.

@Captain_Gonru Who's the man? You da man!!

Guess what I'm getting for my birthday? (My son is buying it for me, though I did use my $5 GC from some shampoo I bought last week. So $11.77 delivered on Monday.)

You should tell the NL peeps in the Amazon Prime thread, b/c the Prime deals suck. Target also has the Guardian in for $20, and Rider and Archer. Id' do it, but it's your find, your glory. We only bought the Wolf Link, b/c it's actually a toy-to-life. i think my kid would have paid the $20 if he could have the Guardian as pet, destroying everything in it's path, now that would be cool.

thanks again, I owe ya one, Probably more than 1 but I'm not keeping count.

@Captain_Gonru There you are. Been meaning to catch up, but I'm trying to keep my 12 yr old from killing us all w/ his new "kids toy" bow and arrow set w/ the metal tipped arrows which have put holes in everything, no where is safe. A few of these would take out that Guardian.

So, my Target ordered Wolf Link came today. But I've been playing w/ the one we bought at Gamestop last Wednesday b/c I'm too impatient. Going to try and return it to GS tomorrow. If not, then back to Target. My kid also picked up the Guardian while we were at GS, they had 1, and he had a $30 GS GC from his birthday way back in Jan, so he figured why not. I went to another GS the next day to pick up Captain Cup Kirk and they had 2 Wolf Link, so I guess Ntineod finally restocked some things after all. I'd sell my 2nd 1 on eBay if I hadn't seen those other 2.

So I started Zelda U a few days ago. It's certainly addictive. I got the paraglider from Tom Bombadil this afternoon and glided down to the Hryule bridge where I iced out and bombed some Lizafalos. Then after crossing the bridge I stopped to look at my first red fox on the hillside. Then before I knew it some skeleton dude came out of the ground and 1 hit me w/ an arrow. I tried to shoot him first, but my bow broke ice arrowing the Lizafalos and the game is too freakin' stupid to auto equip a new bow, any bow, when 1 breaks. I suppose they have their reasons, but it's annoying to die that why. My wolf, which I've named Midna and decided it was female, got taken out by 1 of the Guardians around the bomb shrine. Didn't expect any of those to be active so early in the game. I tired to revenge it but I ran out of bomb arrows and patience.

So, about 4 hours in, enjoying it so far. Making use of Miiverse journal entries. It's funny b/c last year I posted "Good-bye Wii U" after beating Bayonetta 2, expecting Zelda on Switch, but since we got it on Wii U, well another 100 hours I think.

Made good use of the $20 pass green line early.

It's a little sloppy but you can probably figure it out.

So, any good summer vacation plans for you and the Mrs?

@Captain_Gonru I caught my first horse, green w/ white dots, which was funny b/c my kid has been playing for about 60 hours but hasn't figured out how yet. Horse riding is fun. Still have to see if I can do it while keeping Wolf Link Midna w/ me.

I waited for the green line b/c I am such a map freak, always have been. I'm meticulous. Though right now I am 1 straight line as I try out the paraglider and try to hit all of the mountain tops, I'll fill it all in later. I think I have 5 or 6 shrines. Even w/ the shrine finder on I still haven't come across any. They probably purposely didn't put them in straight lines between the towers.

Funny green line story, my kid had beaten the 4 beasts and Ganon, he's head-on, no time for sight seeing or dilly dallying, and when we turned the line on the entire left 3rd of the map was empty. It's mostly cold mountains, so it doesn't seem like he missed much, he just went as far west as the beast then came back to the middle. He's playing on hard now. And trying the trials.

Weekend trips are fun, my parents just got back from a 1 mile long antique show in Sturbridge, Mass. My sister is renting a house on Long island next week, I'll be back and forth. My biggest problem is keeping the kids busy all summer long. But I'm playing Zelda instead. Have I shown you the shark pic from last Tuesday, that was fun.

Well, if you find anything fun let me know.

@Captain_Gonru Felt like it was time for an update.

Halfway thru season 2 of DD, my wife hates that they put Matt w/ Karen just to make a triangle w/ Elektra, but so it goes. I'm digging Punisher. Last we saw he was meeting w/ Kingpin, so a few more to go. And I still like Stick.

Just started season 4 of Shield. Like 1 episode started. I think it's the season they switched to 9, hence all the blood, guess they thought they could bring n the Netflix crowd w/ that. And Daisy getting dressed. I'm not thrilled w/ their pick for Johnny Storm, or whatever his name will wind up being, but the jacket is nice. Hope he gets out of the Mad Max car soon and onto his bike or I'm going to have to start calling him the Night Rider instead of Ghost Rider. The witch is cool, I was hoping for some occult stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb1uDc_qa-4

Zelda U goes well. I'm impressed by how well they made this open world game that still has a nice linear story as long as you travel in a anti-clockwise direction. Traveling linearly isn't really my thing, I just get a side mission in my head and jump to it, but you can really see the progression talking to people at the towns - Kokoro, Hateano, Zora - and really the people at the stables, the stables hold it all together. Just wish it would stop raining all the freakin' time. I thought after helping out Zora it would calm down a bit but no. I'll take blood moons over rain all the time. People living in tropical rain forests playing this game are like "Man, I'm glad it doesn't rain this much here."

Renting Kong Skull Island, I'm always so behind so it's a nice change.

@Captain_Gonru We'll start Cage when we're done w/ DD. LAst nights ep was good, mostly about Kingpin in jail. I've seen the first 2 eps of Iron fist just to see for myself how bad it really was, and it was. Only the last 5 minutes of ep 2 made me decide to keep going, I'll watch the rest w/o my wife so we can move on to Defenders and update her on anything relevant. Which watched Shield almost every night since we started as we watch w/ our son form 8-9 only missing on nights we're out. I'll try not to spoil anything for you if we pass you by.

Both my kids have ways for me to do the Divine beasts. I think I'm going to do counter clockwise though, seems the game wants us to. I do like going off on my own though site seeing. Found Lurien fishing village last night. That whole bottom section of the map seems to serve no purpose according to my kids who've finished the game, but I like the setting and the music. I did kind of cheat though, I'd already watched my kid find the stable near there near the lake, but he never followed the road to the shore. Finding the shrine behind the waterfall was cool.

Nice to be enjoying a game again. The only remote downside is it's almost too addictive. I just want to keep going. I keep meaning to stop playing, get back to Xbox, but there's so many little side missions I want to do, they almost squeezed a real JRPG nto a Zelda game. It's very impressive. Going to go play now, family sleeps to 10 on the weekends then I cook pancakes at sausage for brunch. Then Kong. I'll keep an eye out for Muto, or whatever it is I'm supposed to be looking out for. I've only seen parts of the previous Kong so if its' from there I won't notice.

@Captain_Gonru "so pay attention to the little details "

Less little details, more "stick around after the credits". Hope that isn't too much of a spoiler, I assume you know by now to stick around for after the credits.

Wont' say more until after you get a chance to see it. No rush.

@Captain_Gonru Movie was good enough for a Kong movie. Didn't want to say too much and sway your opinion. If it was horrible, like that Punisher movie, I'd have told you not to watch it, and if it was great Id' have told you to rush to see it. I'd say a little better than season 3 of AoS. (My wife says b/c it wasn't as long.) You ever see Son of Kong? It was more a remake of that than either the original or recent King Kong movies but I never see anybody write about that though, it's like it doesn't exist. If it was a remake of King Kong Escapes I may have told you to stay away. jk that movie was awesome when I was 12. You can't ask for much more in life than this trailer has to offer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXpGFIOFIY

Oh, I keep meaning to tell you, that the advice you gave me about leaving weapons in chests, well I think about it every time I open a chest, but I'm nto doing very good at following it. I've left a few, most notably the Zora trident the Zora King gave me, but w/ my Guardian, Ganandorf and Link amiibo I get a pretty steady supply of decent weapons. And I've gotten pretty good and kicking Guardian butt in the shrines, currently carrying Guardian sword, axe and spear, all ++. Now I just need to find fatso Hetsuo the giver of slots. I have like 44 Korok seeds but I haven't seen him since he left the stable near the haunted woods. I tried going in there but got discouraged after repeatedly getting kicked out. Dont' tell me though, I'm sure I'll find him eventually.

Do you have the hardcover guide book? I'm thinking about paying the $26 to put it on shelf w/ XCX and FFXV. And, well, I want the map. May put that on the wall w/ my FFXV map. Don't think XCX had a map, just a postcard.

@Captain_Gonru Just beat the divine beast of the volcano, was actually checking how to get a chest behind a door, apparently it's convoluted flying under his belly for a 100 rupee, so I'm good.

Some guy at the nearby stable said run from the wind. My kid said it took him about 30 minutes. I'm just easily frustrated. I keep climbing the trees and gliding across the top. I'm close to burning the whole forest down.

Checked my log today, about 15 days, played 44 times, 75 hours. Couldn't freaking believe it, I figured 40 the most. That's iike 5 hours a day straight 7 days a week for 2 weeks. And I still don't know where the legendary sword is. Dont' tell me, I'm killing myself w/ this one. And it's giving me an excuse to scout out everywhere, find memories that way. That world is probably about 4x bigger than it needed to be. My kid just finished yesterday and he still doesn't know what Lurien the fishing village was for. I liked it, I'm a sucker for fishing villages since Chrono Cross.

Man Goron city was a killer, rode my horse, got ambushed by a guardian, then ate and ran, ate and ran, thru the healing hot springs. I forgot somebody gave me a fireproof elixir, just kept using anti heat, which I realized later was for the desert, not the volcano. Made a beeline for the store and bought all 3 pieces of armor. Time to explore for a few days. Then the flying beast.

So I think I'm looking at 150 hours easy. Depending on how long it takes me to find the sword and get thru that stupid forest. And find Hetsue, I have about 60 korok seeds I need to trade him for slots.

This game is nuts large. And it's driving me nuts.

@Captain_Gonru I was down to about 10 stamps and decided I didn't need all of those shield and sword stamps near shrines. Also found several shrine stamps - the last one - that I still had on shrines after doing them. So I think I'm back up to 18.

Left the 100 rupee chest after several more tries. Boss Goron told me about the sword in the forest so heading there today for try #3. I'm hoping now that he talked to me the forest takes it easy on me. It really does feel like the story is meant to be played counter clockwise, guess I'll now for sure after I finish the circle.

Oh, and we all like season 4 of AoS 4 or 5 eps in. Feels like they decided Netflix was getting better ratings w/ dark and moody so they went there. Season 1 was Flash, 4 is Arrow. WEll Constatine or X-Files really. I have no idea what 2 and 3 were, 2 was a mess, 3 was bearable. I'll say no more until you start watching again whenever.

Oh, and I ordered the $25 book, I'm a sucker for maps. If it didn't have the big fold out map I may have passed, but it did. Maybe I'll finally figure out how to get that ball from Impa to take it to the hilltop behind the fairy. You ever do that one? Dotn' tell me how, just wondering. My kid did every memory but that didn't help, she still says no. B1tch.

@Captain_Gonru tv update, just b/c

Watched the first 2 eps of Cage and it was good. Watched ep 3 of IF yesterday afternoon just to take a break from Zelda (I must be way over 100 hours by now w/ the camel beast still to go) and it was as bad as I recalled. How can a show called IF be so slow, dull and boring? Even the steel cage match was lame. Can't wait to be done w/ it, trying to time finishing LC w/ Defenders releasing. Season 4 of Shield is still going strong. I know you aren't finished so I won't say more, but I'm still happy, they must have fired all the writers and hired some from Netflix.

@Captain_Gonru "There be spoilers, matey."

Hey thanks for that. That's why I keep you in the loop. Guess I'll just wait and binge watch IF when we're done w/ Cage and before we start Defenders. IF just has to get better, right? cringe

Zelda spoilers ahead, you are finished right?

Yesterday was a weird day for Zelda. It started w/ that gawdawful lightning boss in the camel - I never ever would have thought to throw what looked liek stone columns at him - I tired my metal hammer, 2 different chests, and some other weapons, every arrow type. 2 hours of nothing. Then I read my hardcover book and restarted from the beginning, 5 minutes later he was done. all that voice had to say was "Throw 1 of those spikes back at him." rather than saying "Hit him with some metallic object." a dozen times. Over and over and over again. I don't see how that got through play testing. But after that I started my journey to travel every road by horseback, beginning back where it all began, and I can see how the game was set-up for a counter clockwise play. I met a man on a bridge still freaked out about the towers coming out of the ground and shrines lighting up. And I found a shrine just sitting there on the side of the road. I've spent hours trying to figure out some others. Had to look the arrow in the shadow up in the book as well, tried shooting arrows everywhere except where they couldn't reach. I feel like I have a stable or 2 yet to find, some are spread out to much. I also need 2 more memory pics, grey citadel and random forest. I'm hoping to find the painter for the forest 1. Some archery camp lead to me a nice discovery. And dragon swamp area was cool, not sure how I missed all of that before. I'm up to 18 hearts, thinking of giving the sword trial a go soon as well. Family vacation next week, trying to finish before then. Then... who knows?