Capcom's Monster Hunter series has been a massive commercial success for the company, and this year it will leapfrog stablemate Street Fighter in terms of lifetime units sold - despite the fact that Street Fighter as a franchise has been around for much, much longer.
The data comes from esteemed video game analyst ZhugeEX:
Street Fighter has long been seen as Capcom's most recognisable series, and made its arcade debut way back in 1987. It wasn't until the sequel in 1991 - which was duly ported to the SNES - that the franchise gained mainstream success. Since then, numerous follow-ups and revisions have appeared on a wide range of formats, with the most recent being Street Fighter V, a title which has endured a rather troubled launch.
Monster Hunter began life on the PS2 in 2004, but it is now seen primarily as a Nintendo franchise. The latest entry, Monster Hunter Generations, launches this July, and a spin-off called Monster Hunter Stories hits Japan later this year.
Oh my god .Didn't see this coming at all.
I'm not surprised. Monster Hunter is really something special, cannot wait for Generations!
Well Monster Hunter is enjoyable, Street Fighter isn't.
I'm sure many people would say the exact opposite.
Personally, I'm glad Monster Hunter is enjoying mainstream success.
Monster Hunter is a beast. It's no great surprise, MH has been on the Wii and Wii U and sold reasonably well. Street Fighter hasn't been on a Nintendo home console since the SNES. The latest SF failed on the PS4. Take note Capcom. They've treated us badly over the last couple of generations.
They'd be wrong
I know of a number of people (not me, I swear) for who the appeal of tracking and hunting monsters just hasn't clicked.
@Snargledon @shaneoh They're both amazing franchises. Street Fighter has always been a personal favourite of mine since SF2 and SFV - for all of its problems - still plays like a dream.
I'm personally glad we still have a market for 2D one-on-one fighters in 2016!
Wow those sales!
This article seems to be trying to decrease Street Fighter value as a franchise, probably because it was released for PS4/PC and not Wii U. Street Fighter V sales are 1.4 millions this far, in spite of story mode coming in June. Capcom is honest, they have admitted it was a mistake releasing the game bare bones. Plus, it's a very old franchise, right, but how much time passed until SFIV was released?
This is such a weak comparison. However, I'm glad that Monster Hunter is doing so well, Monster Hunter 3 was my most played Wii game and I'm enjoying 4 Ultimate on 3DS as much, only missing some HD new entry.
Memorable first time play Monster Hunter 2 dos on PS2 console, follow all the instruction and completed all the quests, still no idea what the game is it, after that meet the first boss BOSS, the BGM changed, and the nervousness when fighting BOSS, sigh of relief after defeat the BOSS, the Audio-Visual Enjoyment, afterthat i became fan of monster hunter until now.
I ttook me 4 tries to "get into" Monster Hunter but now - I LOVE IT!
Wow didn't realise Monster Hunter was that popular.
Between 1991 and 1995 Street Fighter was the most popular franchise. Everybody was playing Street Fighter and it saved the career of the Super Nintendo. Now the franchise is a big mess. Street Fighter 5 tanked, it failed to create a market for the fighting game genre and all the key people for fighting games at Capcom are leaving the company. It's such a waste. I don't think we'll see another Capcom fighting game this gen. Except maybe on smartphones.
Monster Hunter is now the only franchise that keeps Capcom alive, until Resident Evil 7 but since RE6 failed to make money for Capcom we are sure of nothing. So I hope they'll manage it better than what they did with Street Fighter.
I honestly don't think it has anything to do with trying to slight SF simply because it's on PS4.
I think it's a valid comparison. I mean both are Capcom franchises, and Street Fighter is widely regarded as Capcom's biggest cash cow and most relevant franchise. SFV sold well enough- it's Street Fighter after all. But iirc even Pokken Tournament has outsold SFV now.
It's an interesting turn of events given SF has featured on so many platforms, and since the early 90's too. For MH, a franchise which up until the last entry has really only seen meaningful sales in one country, and which has barely been around a bit over a decade, to surpass the almighty SF is quite newsworthy.
I love SF (despite hating the lack of single player in SFV) and MH. I don't think this is a "slight article" I just think it's facts that are interesting. Who would have thought, right? Good for Monster Hunter I say. It deserves it, and more.
I love monster hunter, but I can see why this is happening. Street fighter to me, feels like a dying out series. I never really got into but I just feel like the sales keep dropping for this series. Super pumped for Monster Hunter Generations
Faith in humanity restored ( a little )
@JaxonH ". But iirc even Pokken Tournament has outsold SFV now."
Can you link the source where it says that Pokken Tournament sales are higher than SF V 1.4 millions?
EDIT: 1.4 millions for a game that is still to get its story mode in June is far from being a "dying out series".
I never said the series was "dying out".
But that story mode should have been there from day one. And I imagine by the time it drops most people will have lost interest. I know I have. I love Street Fighter to death, been a fan for 20 years. But this latest entry was an insult. Shelved my copy right away. I'll play it maybe once story mode AND vs mode AND arcade mode release. If that day ever comes.
And not that it matters if game A sold more than B. It's not a competetition. Just saying, SF sold far less than it should have. And I'm glad because had it sold a ton of copies it would have sent a message "ya, strip out our games' single player, we don't care, we'll still support it"
Anyways, just google "Pokken Tournament outsells Street Fighter V". Too many articles to link.
And I should point out that irrespective of Street Fighter V being a disappointment, and irrespective of whether a million people rush out to buy the game when the story mode gets patched (which I doubt will happen) this article is comparing the series as a whole, lifetime to date.
For MH to already be surpassing SF in half the time at market is quite an accomplishment. Nothing to get upset over. Monster Hunter is Capcom's greatest franchise, and deserves such success.
We should be happy to see this series surpass Street Fighter.
@JaxonH Why the "'???", if you were not quoted on the EDIT section of my comment?
I never said anything about a competition, I didn't even mention Pokken Tournament. You said, "But iirc even Pokken Tournament has outsold SFV now." and that is false. Pokken Tournament sales are lower than 1.4 million. So, Pokken Tournament has NOT outsold SFV now.
@VanillaLake the comparison is in numbers only, please don't read anything more than it is. I don't know how numbers are weak, numbers say a lot.
@RoomB31 It's a weak comparison. If you think it's not, okay. I think it is and I explained why. No need for drama.
@JaxonH Who is upset? Are you even reading my comments? I love Monster Hunter. Don't manipulate.
Ok, my mistake. Just a simple misunderstanding.
@VanillaLake you've already made that happen.
I believe the Pokken Vs. Street Fighter debate is a little fuzzy. The comparison was made comparing the physical Ps4 version to Pokken's physical sales (in NA), and I think people were blown away that a brand new fighting game with little cred on a dying console could outsell a long standing franchise on the PS4, but the numbers clearly skew to whoever was trying to make that point.
"Who is upset. Are you even reading my comments? Don't manipulate"
I've read every single one. You seemed upset from the beginning about this comparison to SF. If you're not, then ok. But it seemed like it. Seems like you're still upset now. Very hostile. I'm not trying to "manipulate" anything.
I thought we were just having a friendly conversation but you seem very defensive and sensitive on this topic. When Pushsquare wrote articles about "PSN makes more money than all of Nintendo" I took it in stride as a Nintendo fan, because well, it is what it is. It wasn't a slight against Nintendo, just the facts. Likewise no one here is trying to slight the franchise you love (and I too love it), it's just a newsworthy discussion.
Know what I'm saying?
@severalusers When someone says something like "it's a weak comparison", it can be assumed to be an opinion, and appending "I think" seems redundant then.
@JaxonH I'm not being "very hostile", I don't know what you do consider "very hostile", but that itself can be considered another manipulation, because I am not being "very hostile". If I have a different opinion does not mean I am being "very hostile". That's a pretty nasty thing to say about other users.
I am not upset. I am happy for Capcom. I love Capcom. I just happen to have an opinion. Do you understand now?
@RoomB31 Yeah, I agree, that's why I pointed out that @JaxonH sentence "But iirc even Pokken Tournament has outsold SFV now" is false. And if it's true, I want to read the source.
Both MH4 Ultimate and SFV are a success and I'm happy because I like both. And yes, it's a shame that SFV launch was bare bones but Capcom admitted it, how many companies admit their mistakes nowadays?
It wasn't meant as a nasty thing to say about you. That's not how I roll. Simply an observation based on the curt manner of your responses toward me and the implied tone that came with it. I hope you can understand that, from my perspective.
Anyways, I can see Monster Hunter becoming a very dominant franchise worldwide. The next step they should take is start putting the franchise on home consoles again. And up the ante.
@JaxonH "I thought we were just having a friendly conversation but you seem very defensive and sensitive on this topic" You are really wrong. I'm only sensitive on important matters. I am not having a fight with you, I am just trying to make you see your mistakes, that's it.
About your comment about PushSquare, somebody on here said it is "manned by a fanboy", what I can assure you is that I am quite critical on PushSquare and PureXbox, too. I also like saying the things I like, too, so you can read many comments written by this writer praising a game or an article or review or whatever.
About your last comment, that I just read, it's okay, no need to fight about games, but about important things in life (like human beings rights, animal rights, etc.).
Yes, Monster Hunter is becoming a very dominant franchise worldwide, with that I agree.
I'm very happy about Resident Evil 2 Remake being developed, too. Hopefully Resident Evil 7 is survival horror again. Depending on what NX is, we might see them on NX, too.
I'm still a little ancy about RE7 after RE6 but we'll see. Have they shown any gameplay yet?
Happy that we found a climate of understanding.
No, only rumours about RE7, it does not officially exist. Resident Evil 2 Remake has been confirmed by Capcom.
I know RE6 was a letdown, but now that Umbrella Corps (a shooter inspired by Resident Evil) exists, I hope next Resident Evil games are survival horror again. Also, they are remaking a classic (RE2).
RE4 and RE5 remasters are also being released later this year (RE6 remaster was already released). Well, not big remasters but with better frame rate, resolution, etc.
It all means Resident Evil is becoming important again, hopefully in a good way.
EDIT: I have to admit I loved the Wii version of RE4 with the Wii Remote pointer.
Dayum, P3rd still going undefeated.
You got this far Capcom, now let's take this series to the next level and go multiplatform. Make an MH game for all current gen HD platforms, including Vita and Wii U. Vita version is guaranteed to be a success due to being a portable and PS4 version should do very well overall worldwide. Xbone version....not the platform MH would do well on UNLESS the west really wants to play it. And finally the Wii U. I figure this might be worst selling platform for a new HD MH, or second worst after XBone, especially if other platforms are available for this game, but Capcom's relationship with Nintendo and its fans could make a Wii U version. And of course there is a MAAAAAAASSIVE chance that the new MH will be an NX launch title due to Capcom's suggested release window of March 2017 is exactly the same as the NX.
I truly hope it won't be an NX-exclusive and that it'll be allowed to spread its wings by being multiplatform. Better yet, if it allowed cross-platform multiplayer across ALL platforms, especially since it seems Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all open to the idea of multiplayer between their consoles. MH could be the game to do that and foster friendship between all the fanbases, being a purely co-op game and all.
EDIT: P.S. If Tecmo Koei can go and make each version of Toukiden shine on each of its respective platforms, Capcom should be able to do the same with making each version of a potential multi plat MH look and play beautifully no matter which system it's on (sans 3DS).
@AVahne That would be ideal.
Xbox does barely exist in Japan, but Monster Hunter is popular worldwide now. I also want a new HD Monster Hunter, but Vita and Wii U are not popular platforms. I think the next Monster Hunter game will be released for PS4, Xbox One and probably NX (depending on what it is). 3DS is getting its slice with Monster Hunter Generations, and I'm not sure if Sony will be releasing any more handhelds.
Vita is pretty popular in Japan. If a series like Monster Hunter finally pops on over to Vita, I'm sure it'll sell at least a million or two million copies on that handheld alone. It'll also give the Vita a huge boost in Japan, like it usually does for PSP and 3DS.
@AVahne Yeah, Monster Hunter was very popular on PSP (where it all started). If Vita is still popular in Japan, then it should be released on Vita. Do you think Sony will release a successor to Vita? I'm not sure.
I honestly think Sony is bowing out of the handheld race. Actually it feels like Sony is intent on eventually turning Playstation into a game streaming platform in the future, but I digress. I don't think Sony will make another handheld, which leaves Nintendo mostly alone in this field with no competition whatsoever.
Pretty depressing, but if the still-germinating Windows/Linux gaming UMPC market (GPD Win, Dragonbox Pyra, PGS-if this is real,........PocketCHIP?)can eventually grow to be popular, that'll give a great alternative for handheld gamers, especially if Microsoft looks into making their own OR licensing their tech to another company making one. A gaming handheld PC that can also do general purpose computer things seems to already be a popular idea with the Japanese at least...
I really liked Revelations and Revelations 2. The episodic nature of the second actually fit perfectly with how the first had "epidodes" for chapters. Kinda cool.
Honestly I don't care if the next home console MH is NX exclusive, PS4 exclusive, etc. I'll just be happy to have another MH game in HD on the TV. Although if it does go multi platform I hope NX gets a slice because the (presumed) second screen works well for the game I think.
I don't think it'll stay 3DS exclusive forever, and 3DS is winding down after all. But, I'm not sure Vita will ever see it unless Sony pays for development, and that of course depends on if/when it gets ports to other platforms.
I always dreamed of a brand new MH game on consoles built ground up (MH3U was excellent on Wii U but was still a textured and expanded Wii game, not ground up). But, I'm just happy we're getting the games at all. I rememer a time- not too long ago, where we didn't know if the next entry would come west.
@AVahne I think the first time Sony tried that was with PSTV, and some Bravia TVs can play PS Now, but PSTV, Bravia TVs and PS Now are not very popular anyway. PS4 is very successful, so I think Sony will keep making dedicated home gaming platforms.
About Microsoft, Xbox One and Windows 10 are already being fused (Killer Instinct is cross-buy and cross-play) - awesome game by the way.
Nintendo might be focusing more on portables than on home consoles now, it's a pity since I've always preferred home consoles. What will NX be? I suspect it's a handheld that can be connected to the TV, kind of a hybrid console but not very powerful. If so, I think it won't get much third party support.
@JaxonH Revelations was an improvement and another clue to a back-to-basics approach.
I got Revelations on 3DS and Wii U (the Wii U is a bit choppy) and Revelations 2 on Xbox One (better than the PS4 version).
EDIT: As you can see, I'm a big Capcom supporter. I also got Resident Evil Origins Collection on Xbox One and will get 4, 5 and 6 remastered. And 2 Remake!
I love Capcom, and Square Enix for that matter. I literally grew up with their logos on half the games I would boot up.
A lot of ppl like to slam both companies, and admittedly I've had my gripes with Capcom from time to time, but no company is perfect. Nintendo screws the pooch all the time and I still love them to death.
I say screw popular opinion. Square Enix is probably my fave 3rd party, and Capcom 2nd. They did right by MegaMan 9 and 10. Yet Inafune gets all the glory of reviving MegaMan despite MN9 being more like Azure Striker than any MM game I've played.
They also did right by RE Revelations series, and by localizing MH in the west for every entry now. Ya, they pissed me off with SFV, but like you said, at least they're rectifying that mistake. Fix SFV, make a new MegaMan and a home console MH and they'd be right back on top in my book.
Must be nice to be Capcom! Two giant franchises. I played Street Fighter in the SNES days, but to be honest, haven't been back since.
But Monster Hunter? I have journeyed anew to each village upon every fresh release. Happy to lay down my precious time to climb that mountain once again!
Looking forward to picking up MH Generations this summer! Can't wait to play it with both of my cousins, great co-op game!
@JaxonH Yes, I think Square Enix and Capcom are great companies. They get more negative feedback than Nintendo, although Nintendo also makes huge mistakes.
Some key important people have left Capcom and Square Enix, but also things have changed a lot in Nintendo. That reminds me of Rare, too. Overall, they all are great companies, but not perfect. My ranking: Nintendo, (classic) Rare, Capcom and Square Enix (although I did not like FFXV demo much).
As you said, localising Monster Hunter 4 (plus Ace Attorney), Revelations, Revelations 2, 2 Remake, fixing SFV, they are doing pretty good now. In my opinion, they were the third party with the best lineup for Wii, 3DS and Wii U.
Yes, Ace Attorney also. A series I just got into not 3 days ago.
You're not the first to say the FFXV demo was crap- I thought so too. But I realized that it was pretty much irrelevant to the actual game. Except for the boss- that was a good representation.
Should try the first demo. It's a little rough around the edges but a much better taste of what to expect
Thanks to MH4U, this series is finally getting noticed more outside of Japan...can't wait to see how Generations does here.
That...makes me sad actually. Not to slight MH, as I'm sure those that love it have a ton of fun with it but it feels like the end of an era. Especially given how great SFV is (I still don't get the backlash when capcom explained upfront why they were releasing the game in tournament form so early) I think it deserves way better sales than it has gotten.
Weren't the first two games on PS2? I don't see them on the list at all.
Wait a second... Portable 3rd is the highest selling Monster Hunter game?
I mean, yeah, it was PSP juggernaut before it was a 3DS one, but I'm still kinda shocked that the title released after Tri and before 3G was the one that sold the most.
@VanillaLake If I recall the 1.4 million figure for Street Fighter V is shipped not sold. Considering the state of PS4 in comparison to the WiiU, the PS4 would(and does) have far more shelf space at retail.
Combined with the information that Pokken outsold it retail. It would be consistent with the reports if Street Fighter V has shipped more copies to stores than Pokken but sold less to customers.
@Dr_Lugae No, the number is sales:
That's what happens when you decided not to released a Street Fighter game for Nintendo system. You are taking away the franchise from gamers who really want to play the game but don't want to get the crappy PlayStation 4. Kinda stupid too because the best selling Street Fighter game of all time is still the Super NES classic.
@Dr_Lugae Yeah it's shipped. Capcom is probably playing with the words since shipped also means sold to retailers:
With the NPD, Mediacrate and Steam numbers we have there is no chance the game sold 1 million copies. And it's out of any charts, it's not even in the top 100 of the most played games on Steam at this moment. So I don't think it will have any leg.
It's not just a disaster for Street Fighter but also for Capcom and the whole fighting genre. You thought the SF3 era was a dark age for the genre? You've seen nothing with the one we're entering in.
Well MH is good and an actual new SF is rare so this makes sense.
Yeah, it's a shame that SFV was a disappointment in sales. Especially considering it launched on PS4(with an install base of over 40 million) and PC(which obviously has an even bigger install base.)
I love fighting games and I've been a fan of SF since vanilla II, but I can't say I'm a fan how how Capcom launched V and they obviously paid the price. On the bright side Nintendo and Namco released a fighting game like normal and that did well.
@VanillaLake and? Pokken tournament is outselling this game.
should we report that too despite the fact that it will make a nintendo fan site look more fan-site-y?
@VanillaLake check vgchartz. They only track physical sales, and in that department Pokken Tournament has outsold SFV. Unfortunately Nintendo doesn't give digital sales numbers, so we can't compare those.
@aj_fowl Check the official source I already linked. Vgchartz has delay.
@VanillaLake I checked your source, it lumps all sales together. That's physical, digital, AND PC. Vgchartz will have a delay, but not that much. It suggest that there are somewhere around 700,000 physical units, the rest are digital.
Again, we don't have digital sales figures for Pokken. The main point I was making was that recently at some point it has outsold SFV. That's what everyone was talking about. Also, SFV had a month head start.
@aj_fowl Okay, whatever. I don't get why some people here want SF to fail.
@JaxonH Survival Mode is the new Arcade Mode since the game never appeared in the arcades. And yes, it is still single player mode despite it not being the traditional single player mode.
It's not the new arcade mode. Yeah it's single player, as is the dinky 5 minute story mode and training. But that's it.
Don't take me for some hater. I preordered this game over a year in advance. Been playing SF for over 20 years. But that is exactly why I am not satisfied with SFV. It failed to deliver staple modes and features that have been present for decades. I mean, Even Capcom admits the single player is paper thin and even they are now talking about patching in a VS. CPU and arcade mode after the story mode update.
Until that day comes (if and when) I'm good. And what really pisses me off is I even preordered the season pass and everything. I had that one coming. Should have done my research. But Capcom has never done this before with SF so I trusted the game would be as robust as it's always been. I won't make that mistake again though..
survival mode gives me all that i would expect from an arcade mode (beating up CPU opponents for fun), just with the added challenge of battle supplements (which isn't perfect; you should be able to buy as many as you want whatever you want at the cost of a high score). and the story sections of arcade mode are in their own separate mode. I know I'll never be able to beat Hard and Extreme Survival Modes so I'm not concerned over missing out on the final three costume colors. Plus I really don't care about fighting a CPU opponent of my choice.
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