Impending Japanese Launch Of Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS Brings New Character Reveals

Oh my god...Nostalgia overload on so many levels...

I'm kind of new to the series with Brawl being my only real entry that I own and have played extensively...so I was reluctant to pick up the Wii U entry (especially with Bayonetta 2 and Captain Toad on the way)...but damn!

So many characters, so much nostalgia...I may have to buy it!

Ugh, they actually pulled it off... Mr Peepers in Smash. Wooo... hooo.

Can we assume it will be the same for wii u?

Well, Duck Hunt Dog is real after all. Cool! I'm looking forward to seeing his moves!

@danjohnson141 - I think it was announced a while back that the game would share the same roster on both platforms but have different stages.

G&W is also in :3

And Dr. Mario is confirmed as well.

Welp, I guess its all for me tonight. Tomorrow will be the full info of the new stuff :3

Also Dr. Mario.

>Dark Pit is put in over Dark Samus

Gotta love that bias.

Ganon also confirmed. Check Kotaku's update.

@Austroid Right?
Though I'm guessing Dark Pit was never planned. More of a "hey let's give this Pit costume slightly different moves" kind of thing.

Doc is back too!

The Doc is back!

Ganondorf has been found too. I hope Jigglypuff is in it. She is the only one from the original game not confirmed.

Yes!!! Happy about all of these! I'm one of the few that likes Dr Mario better than Mewtwo anyway.
On a side note the dude in the video (just watched the dog one) really doesn't need to curse every other word to get his point across..

I'm really surprised that Sakurai allowed the leaks to happen till this unavoidable point (I mean... we all know there is always someone getting the game few days before the official release).
I was sure he would have revealed the whole roster before all this could happen, but I was clearly wrong >.>;;;

I was trying to avoid spoilers but I already knew about this so I'm cool with it. I've warmed up to DHD after seeing pics of him but he'll still be my punching bag for a bit for being the embodiment of the leaks spoiling me a month back!
They're still a few characters I don't know about and I hope to discover them myself!

The Japanese work fast, wake up and most of the roster has been unlocked already. Some character decisions seem a bit strange to me from Sakurai talking about reducing clones but ending up with several anyway but DHD looks awesome reminds me of Amaterasu in MVC3.

I don't know what is the point of Sakurai's announcements when they are going to be leaked early, when Sakurai himself says it people are going to go yay... cool Duck Hunt and Bowser jr are in the game

Cool

WHy no mewtwo or ridley

Where's Wario???

"New Character Reveals"

"Mr. Game and Watch"

But I thought Mr. Game and Watch was already confirmed when Pac-Man had gotten revealed?

@ReshiramZekrom teased not confirmed. Technically these all were

Dark Pit? Really?? Doesn't Pit have a Dark Pit skin? I'll be annoyed if that's actually a character.

@Abziwabzi What do you mean "if"? Nintendolifw just reported to you that he's in the game! Some people...

I not surprised anymore because of the leak. The leak partially ruin the game for me, but at least there are some new characters...

SO, THAT LEAK WAS REAL THAN? WOW!!!! LOVE THE ROSTER!!

These reveals leave me a bit disappointed...if Sakurai wanted so bad to get rid of clones, then why put Lucina and Dark Pit in the game and even have Dr. Mario return? Besides that, I don't like Mr. Pepper and I'm sad not to see Lucas (who was my favorite character in Brawl), but that's just my opinion. Bowser Jr. was the only reason that could make me hope the leak was real and he hasn't been confirmed yet...I'll wait hoping for more surprises

@Kaze_Memaryu And this is a bad thing?

@BakaKnight how would Sakurai know this would happen?

@BlackSpy @SuperCharlie78

Wario: http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/smash-bros-characters_1/KCwUn9U.png

Lol eerybody acting suprised about the characters. Did you guys not see the leak?

Woot, Falco and Ganondorf confirmed. That's really all I wanted, the other reveals are just more cherry's on top.

@kingston589 I think the leak being real is more disappointing then shocking. It's killed some of my hype really. I just hope there's more unique and new characters to be unlocked, and not just more clones (don't care about the justification, they're still disappointing).

HOLYCRAPTHELEAKISREAL!

I think this us a wonderful roster, with only three issues:
If the Ice Climbers have been cut, that's a crying shame.
And Dr. Mario and Dark Pit should not be separate characters, just alternate skins, a la Alph.

Other than that, I'm thrilled. Launch it! Launch it now! I've never been so anxious to play a game!

@Austroid But Dark Pit is a rebel. He likes to do things his own way. Including the way he fights. As we can see he is holding a staff instead of a split bow

"Needless to say, if you want to find out for yourself which fighters have been hidden away within the game then you'll want to navigate away from this page right now to avoid potential spoilers. It might also be prudent to live in a cave until the western launch, as this news is going to be everywhere."

Lol! I love that. I think we've waited long enough to see the full roster, so it's ok NL. Also, the Duck Hunt Dog! Amazing. I can't wait to test that character out.

Damn, was still kinda holding out for Sora from Kingdom Hearts! Ah well its wishful thinking I know lol

@thesilverbrick do you not see the weapon Dark Pit is holding? And do you not remember some of the moves that went missing during Mario's transitions?

@SamirMalik but Dark Pit sounds like someone who lets their underarm hair grow wild :-/

Where's Bowser Jr.?
I guess he's this game's Wolf - the lamest newcomer, but also the hardest to get...

Duck hunt dog makes me smile

@Action51 Buuuuuy it...

Where Dat jigglypuff ????

@TeeJay @SamirMalik Well Nintendolife have already had Sakurai confirm that each character has 8 different colour costumes. Hard to see how that can be done for both Pit and Dark/Black Pit given their identical models. We don't know the context of the screenshots, it may be a story-mode thing. Certainly the bow-and-arrow character symbol is typical Pit. I'm calling that it's just a skin! (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/super_smash_bros_for_wii_u_and_nintendo_3ds_step_up_with_more_outfit_variations)

Huh, I bet my friend will be overjoyed that the leak is real. I can't wait to play as Dark Pit since it looks like he also uses the Dark Pit Staff.

Also @Abziwabzi, considering the fact the leaks are real, Dark Pit was confirmed as an actual fighter and not a skin. It won't be that hard to make colour costumes for Dark Pit tbh, look at Dr Mario.

@Ichiban A Disney character? Good luck.

Heck yay, Duck Hunt Dog confirmed!

@Abziwabzi Then why is he Dark Pit Staff? The whole color thing only confirms that Pit and D.Pit can swap places via color change.

@Abziwabzi No. It sounds like a hole in the ground.

Wait, what, the Duck Hunt dog is playable? PLAYABLE?!?!

Wheres his amiibo

I know they said that 3DS and Wii U will have the same roster but does anyone else hope the Wii U game will have a few extra characters and there will be free DLC for the 3DS on the launch of the Wii U game?

looks like Sakurai #MURKED the roster and stage/music...and improved upon Brawls game-play to make for an incredible handheld experience! will be trying to play online too...
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OH MY GOD.

Dr. Mario and Duck Hunt Dog!

youve gotta be kidding me!! duck hunt dog is in it,but Waluigi isnt!?
also i heard Mach Rider is in this, is that true?

MACH RIDER AND RIDLEY !!!

The haters can go shove it, Duck Hunt Dog is here and he looks awesome! He's the perfect retro rep, how many NES consoles were sold with Duck Hunt packed alongside Super Maro Brothers? Duck Hunt is one of Nintendo's most famous games, and I'm glad it's finally getting its due in Smash Bros. Does that mean we finally get a Duck Hunt stage as well?

And Dr. Mario is back! I loved playing as him in Melee! Not to mention, I can finally bring back my jokes about Dr. Mario writing a prescription for pain!

Also, Mr. Game & Watch is also back! No surprise, but he was one of my mains in Brawl.

@SamirMalik But he fights with his Silver Bow in actual battles. And I never played Pit and don't know his moveset, but I hear everyone saying he's a clone. He only shows off his staff in his victory pose (and possibly Final Smash, which I haven't seen yet).

Anyway, I'm super glad to finally see Duck Hunt's render! I only want to see the complete roster and better shots of leaked character renders.

Leak Info Compilation: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2g2rcc/neogaf_information_tracking_information/

No Puff or Claus so far.

@Austroid there is a dark samus alt costume and a dark samus assist trophy. Dark samus is plenty represented in this game.

LMAO, for a second, I thought that purple Charizard was Ridley. XD

@KFlow325 there in this?

@C-Olimar of course he was planned and probably from the beginning since the person making this game made the new kid Icarus. And they showed him off a little in the e3 trailer.

Man the guy commentating in the vid is really, I mean really, annoying.

@Drawdler But in Uprising he fights you with every weapon class on the book. Staffs (aka snipers) Bows, claws and more. Everybody is saying he's a clone because he looks like Pit. Not because he play like him. In fact, in the picture above he's using his main staff as his primary weapon instead of one of Palutena's crafts. (Dark Pit Staff)

http://www.twitch.tv/gema_yue

don't watch if you don't want spoilers... but then you wouldn't be reading this comment f you didn't want spoilers.

@rjejr It will probaly be coming next year. It would be neat to have a figurine of him laughting x)

@Action51 I'm with you on this one. I have only played the original on the N64 at a friends way back when so I wasn't too excited but all the hype has got to me. I am also enjoying fighting games more these days.

@LavaTwilight watch the streams on twitch already and you'll see that they are there.

So the leak from a couple weeks ago was real like I thought it was. That means Bowser Jr, ROB, etc. are all in. I actually really like this roster, with a couple of exceptions (Dark Pit and Dr. Mario being in, Ice Climbers being out). It's the best roster in any Smash game so far, though, and I love that most of the newcomers aren't just clones like a lot were in Melee and Brawl. There's a pretty good amount of diversity among the almost 50 characters, and the game looks incredibly fun. Hope we can get the demo here soon.

@Tobias95 - Yeah, there's a serious nostalgia factor w/ the Duck Hunt dog. Maybe Nintendo is going to resurrect him as a mascot. Or maybe he could show up in every game Nitneod makes as some secret hidden easter egg.

I guess we'll get him when we get Captain Toad. Only 5 games support amiibo, CT:TT is one of them, yet he didn't get his won amiibo? Yoshi got one. Not fair.

@shigulicious - Annoying is 1 way to put it. Lets see how long until I get banned for typing some of the dialogue highlights:

**** sleep, I can sleep when I'm dead
dark @@@ ?
streaming this ####
why the $$$$ would you want me following your @@@... I am a perverted barsteward

SO MUCH AWESOME!!! God October's taking forever to get here...

@rjejr I dont see them making a new Duck Hunt game, but they sure could add the dog into other games in form of cameos like R.O.B got in MKDS. He would fit in Mario Party at least

I guess they will make more Amiibos next year, and probaly Captain Toad. (Not my favorite character, but he is nice.) Kinda agree with Yoshi, they should make the Ice Climbers. (And a new Ice clumbers game with a story)

Duck Hunt Dog?! Awesome! Never understood why Nintendo hasn't ever released light gun games on VC/eshop? The Wiimote pointer is perfect for them. Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley, Gumshoe, Barker Bill's Trick Shooting, Yoshi's Safari, Battle Clash....

The leak was real after all... I'm pretty disapointed really, BUT THAT WON'T STOP THE HYPE!

Oh my God, that Duck Hunt entrance animation is the BEST thing ever.

Yes the leak is real!! But oh no lucas and ice cimbers are gone,damn i loved those characters.

Its great to see the leak was actually true but it just sucks to think the ice climbers might not be coming back this time around.

So there's this.

@Aviator

That's a shame about the Ice Climbers being cut, but the roster looks really solid. The Duck Hunt Dog looked fantastic (loved the nods to other NES shooters from back in the day). Overall, October 3rd cannot come quick enough.

Link to final roster?

Sakurai: Chom's not in because he'll be a clone, so instead we put in Lucina, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit.

It sucks that they couldn't get the Ice Climbers to work in the 3DS version, so the Wii U can't have them either. I also wonder if that's why they cut transformations out completely (Samus, Zelda, Pokemon Trainer). Maybe they weren't working well on the 3DS, so that's why they were all separated out as their own characters.

As for anyone missing, we can only hope the leaked roster picture wasn't a complete roster, so maybe Lucas, Wolf, and others still have a chance to be in there somewhere. Barring that, there's always the hope to bring them back with future DLC.

The addition of Dark Pit is a bit of a waste. I just hope it is only a variation of Pit and not its own character.

Jigglypuff is playable!

HIS NAME IS NOT DARK PIT! It's PITTOO! Jeez, people.

@HappyHappy It is its own character, it's a got a separate spot on the select screen and everything, like Dr. Mario and Lucina. Sakurai said that if a character has even a minor difference in properties, they will get their own slot. Alph,for example, is the same as Olimar, so he doesn't get his own.

Not really surprised by any of these. The Duck Hunt Dog was the only one I wasn't sure of but there was news before that he was coming.

Official Ness confirmation: I am happy.

I suppose if they gave us all the characters we want there wouldn't be much for later versions.

Poor Treehouse is getting their thunder stolen...
Anyway, I still want Jigglypuff confirmed. And K.Rool would be great but I'm not holding my breath.

@Dipper723 the difference is he put Lucina in instead, as good as FE is it doesn't need 5 reps when DK and Metroid struggle to get 3

http://www.twitch.tv/yushako
Live stream of the game. Bowser Jr. confirmed with Koopalings as alt. costumes. Jigglypuff was confirmed, too.

So no word on Bowser Jr.? Oh well, these characters are all awesome.

And everyone seems to forget that Sakurai is a troll and I have a theory: he says both games with have the same roster, but he loves his surprises, who honestly thinks he'd reveal the whole wii u roster in the 3ds. I don't buy it, and never had. I think all cutcharacters, except ssnake, will return on the wii u

@TriHolbs Oh okay, that's cool!

The Koopalings and Bowser Jr.'s Final Smash is Shadow Mario painting an "X" on the screen that damages anyone that touches it.

#TeamDuckHuntDog

The Koopa Kids?! Oh man. now who am I going to main… this is too awesome.

THE DUCK HUNT DOG LEAK WAS REAL! I don't believe it.

@Aviator you can tell it's fake, if you compare the bottom screen to the real one, the players are listed left to right, with P1 sticking to the far left, allways. However, the players are aligned to the middle in this one.

@Aviator also, 1 2 and 3 player means that it's a three player (real people match) which is highly unlikely!!

@Aviator but then again... who's to say...

Duck Hunt Dog's immediately one of my favorite additions.

Now Barbara Bat just needs to be in as well, and I'm a happy man!

@Ananymoose Sakurai didn't say anything about too many reps, he said that Chrom would be a clone. Also Mario has 7 reps, 10 if you include DK, Diddy, and Yoshi.

The Duck Hunt dog is a VERY nice touch, though adding the title to the VC would be a nice nod as well. Have the Wiimote function as a zapper, Nintendo... it's not that hard.

I'm so happy that Ness and Jigglypuff are safe and in the roster

DUCK HUNT OMG I KNEW IT HAD TO BE REAL.

Also Dr. Mario gives me hope that Mewtwo might be returning. PLEASE

@Whopper744 I also prefer the Doc, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth to think about the majority of players that wanted Mewtwo. Why should I enjoy my main from Melee when more people wanted Mewtwo back, y'know?

I really don't like any of these excrpt for Ness :/ well, you don't always get what you want

@DestinyMan anything involving Rare exclusive characters has been moot since Microsoft bought Rare.

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I just woke up to the glorious return of jigglypuff!

ARGH!!!!!!!!ＳＰＯＩＬＥＲＳ！！！！

Will Dr. Mario be a Mario reskin like Olimar and Alph?

Nice to see you Jiggly, my all time favorite punch bag.

They misspelled Pittoo. The name Dark pit was used once..maybe twice from then on he was forever named Pittoo or Pittwo whichever you prefer.

The treehouse stream is useless now. Unless they show the introductory video for the missing characters.

Also its true. All the Koopalings are in.!

So awesome.

Not that excited about the koopalings...

Actually am excited to finally get a chance to beat the hell out of that dog.

@97alexk
Because Sakurai is an idiot.

Wait.. where,s Snake???

I'm really crossing my finger for Snake ... even in a DLC ... i dont care ! I WANT IT BACK !

@Aviator
What the hell? !.. it,s impossible!!

With the costumes Mario has way too many reps

Awesome! The dog from Duck Hunt will be a neat plus.

interesting. will have to watch the vids later.

I just watched the Duck Hunt Dog video! His moveset includes using characters from Wild Gunmen! So not only is he a cool choice, but he showcases Nintendo's old Zapper games with his movset!

Man, so many great newcomers. I don't know who to play first. Mega Man would have the top pick, but then Little Mac, Pac Man, Robin, and now Duck Hunt Dog have have joined the roster!

Honestly, I like this group of newcomers more then what Brawl had. Brawl's newcomers were pretty much the big name characters that had missed the cut in 64 and Melee. This group on the other hand shows off Nintendo's history alot better, and what defines them.

Wii U with more characters that will come as DLC to 3ds. If you make a connection between versions will unlock the characters for 3DS for free!

I want me some ice climbers

OOOOOHHHH! Duck Hunt Dog!!

Now gimme K. Rool.

On a side note, I'm glad my favorite diversion in the super smash bros series continues to be possible in this iteration: (creating a CPU match with four Jigglypuffs at max difficulty and setting items to hammers only, and just watching the chaos).

@Dipper723 he didn't mention that, no. But two fire emblem reps being clones? Cmon. And mario is the mascot, his franchise is different, but dk, wario and yoshi have their ownemblems, not marios

Now, anything else besides the leaks?

hoping for mewtwo o: doubt it ... be nice though

I KNEW IT!!! Dark Pit is TOTALY IN!!!!!!!!

@AugustusOxy oh yeah, sakurai is an idiot, because of two characyers you haven't seen yet. I hope they're not in the game for your sake now. Screw every amazing thing he's put in thus far, no ridley or metwo, he must be an idiot. Smh

@DestinyMan Oh, are they? Well then...

What a fantastic roster. Has anyone unlocked ROB yet on any of the streams?

Yep! Jigglypuff's back! Commence the jigglin'!

@Action51 you said it brother! There's no way this can leave someone unhyped after seeing all the characters that weren't mentioned before. This roster is insane!!!

What they did with Bowser Jr is just plain awesome

How awesome would Popeye have been??!

Jigglypuff! Thank goodness you're in the game! I'm sad Magnus and Professor Layton are not in the roster but whatever

Thank GOD for Ness. Waiting for the Lucas reveal. I'm sure he will be added post release. I'm sorry but Ridley is NOT in guys, he was already confirmed as an onstage boss character like the Yellow Devil in the Mega Man stage.

This game is going to be so wacky and wild and crazy I can't wait! So many different play styles!

I need a shotgun item for the dog please.
I am loving this roster. I preferred Dr. Mario and am happy to see him making house calls again.

I have wanted to hit that dog for so long

i wasn't gonna get this on my 3ds but after month looking at pictures i'm sold

Losing Lucas and Wolf for Dr Mario and Dark Pit is really lame. Also the lack of Ice Climbers is a heavy blow.

It's a good roster, I just hope there's DLC because the roster screen really doesn't look right.

Welp, the entire roster has been leaked. All of it.

I won't give details here though.

This is a spoiler thread. Please share. I saw a supposedly final roster on Smash Boards but it lacked Mii Fighters.

Also, on the topic of Ice Climbers, Sakurai said they were a technical problem for 3ds.

This is great and all...especially the Duck Hunt Dog, but...no Ridley?

Duck Hunt dog is the first newcomer I've been really excited for since Wii Fit Trainer.

Also, Duck Hunt U confirmed.

No ridley.

What about Mewtwo???!!!!

@Trikeboy Maybe you already realized it, but I'm going to say it anyway. Jigglypuff is confirmed, watch the post more carefully

I hope in the US version the character is still called "Duck Hunt" because that has a cool ring to it. "Duck Hunt Dog" would sound kind of lame.

Thats it guys, its all over
Just watched a streamer get every single character

Every character that was in the leak is all there is

I read a rumor that we will be getting the demo after the Treehouse stream tomorrow here in the US.. But that could be very wrong.

@MrArcade, yeah I just watched that too. It's pretty hype!

@SparkOfSpirit

Yea I really hope so. Otherwise the end was disappointing. I still think that there will be characters that will be included in the Wii U version then revealed as free patch to the 3DS version. Will really help hype the Wii U game as well now!

I think that we might get unexpected newcomer trailers after a few weeks... Or tomorrow who knows?

@Iggly @SamirMalik I read from neogaf that Dark Pit uses the Staff as a Final Smash only (functioning like the Light Arrows). All his other moves are identical looking to Pit, with some minor changes of mechanics. I was hoping that Dark Pit at least had more unique attacks and specials, but whatever.

My one and only gripe (now that Jigglypuff has been confirmed as back ) is the lack of a new Donkey Kong character yet again. K. Rool or Dixie are both ripe for the picking, yet they don't get in. For a series that started Nintendo as a legitimate gaming company and one that has had 2 new entries in the past few years, I just can't help but point out the lack of love for the DKC characters...

(Also, I'm a bit disappointed that Dark Pit even gets his own slot. He's ALMOST just a palette swap. I don't see why it'd be that hard to give palette swaps their own "slightly different" moveset.)

All this said, still very much looking forward to the first week of October. (And if we get the demo tomorrow, all the better!)

Took screen caps of the final roster, and the message that confirms that the characters were all unlocked. Gimme a moment to post to imgur and I'll have it up.

I was really hoping duck hunt dog did not get in, he just didn't seem like a smash character, but I'm sure that Sakurai managed to make him decent. Also, seeing that Lucina is not shown in any of the roster pics, she must be a harder character to unlock

Here's proof that the final roster is indeed final.

I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that more characters may be coming, just not at the moment. There might still be characters that are going to be announced between the gap of the 3DS and Wii U versions to keep the hype rolling, and the new characters could be put in as a patch or free DLC for the 3DS version when the Wii U version comes out. That is what I suspect (and hope) happens.

I'm guessing they will do dlc packages similar to mk8..... I'm hoping mewtwo and kk rool are part of it!

I'm glad the leak was real (maybe a tad miffed that the leak revealed ALL the secret characters... was hoping for a few more), but I'm happy with the characters that are there. I AM disappointed at the lack of unlockable characters in this installment though. The starting roster is HUGE, too huge if you ask me. I would've preferred maybe a 15-20 character starting roster, and then you have to unlock the rest. Unlocking stuff is half of what makes Smash Bros. such a fun game! But I'll take what I can get here. Still can't wait to pick this one up!

@xj0462 im just trying to manifest it by saying it...i keep seeing leaks for Ridley...smh maybe we wont get him/her after all

I'm disappointed by the lack of Mewtwo, Ridley, and Dark Samus. We have Dark Pit, why not Dark Samus, she'd be significantly different too. I'm a little sad about the leak though, it ruined any surprise.

So lets see.
We have 51 characters (counting the 3 miis)

Then comes the alternate customs which might aswell be categorized as a clone/separate thing
7 Koopaling and Alph.

So its then 59 different characters...

None of these are surprises thanks to the big leak that happened a few weeks ago. I am hope there are some new characters that weren't in the big leak that is still out there.

Yes! No ridley haha i knew he was to big!

Mewtwo.....

@KodyDawg Woah true. I forgot the male WFT and female robin (different models), so I guess its 61 characters then

Also supposedly, there's another rumor that if you connect to the wii u version, you unlock dixie kong, ridley (lol), mewtwo and some other. (im calling this one is fake, but who knows...) so it should total up more than 65+ different characters to play with O.o

WHAT!? that,s the final roster!? can,t believe Lucas got banned of the game man! he was pretty different from Ness,s game play style...but Dr.Mario is here.. so how is that possible?

@BLPs Hear, hear.

@Mega719 He would know as everyone XD

If you prefer I rephrase, I'm surprised Sakurai didn't revealed the whole roster long ago, before leaks had an high chance to happen ^_^

Here's to all you gamers that were hoping for Ridley or Mewtwo:
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You know, having now seen the apparently final roster I just wish, and this might seen totally stupid and picky to some of you, that the final number of characters fit neatly into the screen in even full rows and columns (with one space being the random choice).

Aesthetics and presentation are really important to me, once again I know people would be angered by this, and I think 39 or 44 unique characters is more than enough for any fighting game anyway (those are numbers that would have fit neatly, with the extra random box). I guess, they could also have went for 53 and that would have fit neatly on the screen too, and it would have also allowed a few more of the other characters some people are still upset didn't appear.

It's clearly just a silly nit pick, that most people probably don't even think twice about, but all these little things just bug me.

Obviously, despite these personal niggles, the game is still great.

No Mewtwo?

@Kirk I honestly hope more characters come as DLC, but Mii Fighters could have at least taken separate spaces on the roster.

@KodyDawg

Well like I said; If they have the correct number of characters to balance the layout, including having one square for the random selection, then I'll be happy.

It's such a small detail to obsess about but attention to the small details is what makes me happy

@KodyDawg Sakurai said last year that he has no plans for DLC. With all the content already in the game it's doubtful he would change his mind, and a message popped up after unlocking ROB that the roster is complete

Wish wasn't still in a 2 week suspension from Miiverse so i can rub it in their faces. Especially this one user that is too obsessed with Ridley

First the game is stuffed with Mario and Pokémon characters, I can understand the Mario characters and justify Rosalina and Bowser Jr. with all of that different and interesting moves, but they are still too many characters of the same series, while other great games are completely left out or get 1 character at most.

Pokemons (other than Pikachu, and maybe Jigglypuff being in the 1st game) are completely random and nonsense choices which could be better in Pokeballs allowing more space for some veterans, newcomers, or completely new game series that could actually be original and interesting.

We dont get Chrom because Sakurai said he would be too similar to other Fire Emblem characters, but we get Lucina which is almost identical to Marth in both looks and moves. In the same way we get Dr. Mario and Dark Pit wasting a character slot when they are only clothes and color variations

Sakurai really messed up this game! ... At least when it comes to roster.

So 49 characters wow now time for the dlc more characters more stages more costumes

This will be the best smash game ever!

@BLPs "...like they did with OR/AS because X/Y got out early?"

What?! Where did you get that from?

To be honest I am excited about playing as the Duck Hunt Dog.

@KodyDawg i just told you why that can't happen and also clones are usually what you'll consider extras that can be put in as an afterthought yet they are here in the full game. If Sakurai was going to put Ridley,Lucas,and Mewtwo(not saying they are clones) they would be in the full game

All of this could have been avoided if Nintendo simply release it globally at once.

I'm happy with the roster. Some great characters and the stages looked great too on the streams that I caught a bit of. I suspect there'll be 6 or so DLC characters to fill up that screen. Maybe we'll get some sort of announcement on that tomorrow although I doubt it! Can't wait to play this thing in few weeks.

@BLPs Oh, got your point now.

@C-Olimar What's even more irritating is that from the looks of all the alt color palettes, Pit still has his Dark Pit colors. Also, we totally needed Dr. Mario back as his own character, instead of a just being a simple alt costume.

Nice going there Sakurai, getting rid of clones and all...

im SURE those AREN'T all of the characters!!! there gotta be more hidden in there!!!

Why Doctor Mario and Dark Pit? I mean those character slots could've been used for someone like Mewtwo, Walugi, King K. Rool, or Ice Climbers. I thought that clones we're going to be gone, but then we got Doctor Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina, and Ganondorf still has Captain Falcon's moveset. Why would Sakurai choose Doctor Mario who was almost forgotten, and keep Mewtwo out with all of the outcry from fans that wanted him back? Overall though, still very happy with the final roster. Especially with the Duck Hunt Dog!

If Dr. Mario can come back, why not Roy???

@WindWakerLink Roy's already in here didn't you see the koopaling pictures?

@Benny3999 Slots don't exist.

@Tsurii897 lol You'll have to forgive him. He's just a little excited.

@siavm Because we really needed a character who started out as a palette swap in Brawl to be playable over one of Samus' most cunning, powerful adversaries; who is also more than a cliché evil doppelganger.

Guys, please calm yourselves. It sucks that your favorite character(s) didn't make the cut, but in the end it's pretty much impossible for Sakurai to give EVERYONE what they want. After all, us fans are pretty demanding. We could get what we want, but then we'll just ask for more. Just be content with the fact that we're getting the game. Sakurai already poured his heart and soul into it. And about the clones... many of you disagree with many of them, but just remember: those characters might not mean much to you, but they could be a favorite of someone else. Just something to think about...

Game and watch was announced a long time ago, in the trailer for Pac-Man.

IDK why people keep saying he wasn't. But I totally called Dark Pit!!

@Jazzer94

The whole clone thing was the same in brawl.
Sakurai: We will cut down on clones in this version of smash brothers.....
Then turns around a releases brawl which had like at least a handful of clones.
He is a troll though so now at least I expect it.
All that being said this game still looks bad ass.

I like that Dr. M and Dark Pit are meant for Mario and Pit's old movesets. I'll likely use Dark Pit a lot due to it.

@SamirMalik I'm completely aware there will be differences between the characters and their clothes, but it frankly bothers me that insignificant characters like these got a spot on the roster while more important ones like Dixie Kong or the Ice Climbers got left out.

@tripunktoj I agree with the roster, I wish DK and Metroid would get atleast one more rep, but Sakurai didn't screw anything up, he made an amazing game with really unique characters

@WindWakerLink Roy was a total waste of a character. His game never got a release outside Japan and therefore has no appeal to an international market. Plus, he's relatively meaningless to the Fire Emblem franchise as a whole, anyway. He was only put in Melee as an advertisement for an upcoming game in Japan.

LMAO That Koopling was Iggy before being Iggy was cool.

I got all my wishlist characters and I few I didn't know existed that now look awesome. I pre-ordered this yesterday. Happy!

@Benny3999 I honestly don't understand why anybody would want Waluigi in this game. He's a side character used in Mario spin off titles. He's never been featured in a major Mario platform or or even a Wario game. There are dozens of characters that should put in the game long before him.

THIS TRAIN AIN'T STOPPIN'.

Here's my feeling on the matter:

I'm kinda underwhelmed with who was left to reveal. Some of these returners I feel like were inevitable. The characters who hadn't been "officially" revealed yet, the Duck Hunt Dog, Bowser Jr., and Dark Pit, are kind of "meh" additions, though I am impressed how they varied up the Duck Hunt Dog and I appreciate that Bowser Jr. isn't /just/ Bowser Jr. The Kooplings are better anyway.

And, yes, I'm disappointed that Mewtwo isn't back and ESPECIALLY disappointed that Ganondorf didn't get revamped like he should have.

As for who I wish would have made the cut, I'd have loved to have seen Dixie Kong, Krystal (Adventures-style), The Elite Beat Agents, and either Bayonetta or Wonder Red (from Platinum) join the roster. These feel like real misses to me.

Though I'm excited for Dr. Mario, I just don't see why Sakurai added HIM instead of the highly requested Mewtwo. It kinda makes no sense. Though, I love that The Doc's moveset is Mario's Melee moveset.

@midnafanboy Trololololol!

Is that what happens when playing smash on the 3ds does to your cirlce pad? It's completely gone in that Bowser Jr. photo!

@allav866 But I've never even played with Mewtwo but I still want him.

@thesilverbrick Your attitude...Wow. Just wow.

@SnackBox Yeah I was surprised by the missing circle pad too! I wonder what it's like trying to control it with the top gone, not very comfortable I would imagine.

@thesilverbrick well guess what,i DO want Waluigi in smash bros!!

I was hoping for a few characters making it in, but that's alright. There's already some great choices in the roster, so I'm fine.

@Austroid Dark Pit was turned into a legit character in Kid Icarus Uprising. Same with Luigi back then when he was just a palette swap. Also, Dark Samus isn't even as interesting as Dark Pit. In fact, D.Samus is Samus in almost every way. Dark Pit is Pit in looks only. His personality and mindset is what really makes him different. He's also a rebel who doesn't like playing by the rules so he does things his own way.

Duck Hunt Dog? YES!!!

@Squashy I'd be wearing gloves if it happened to me that's for sure

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAADMUKmBFVcprQ

I looked anyways because there's no way in hell that I wouldn't find out before I get my hands on it!

The remaining unannounced characters are underwhelming compared to the previous announcements, but that makes perfect sense. You can't tell me that Sakurai didn't know that these characters would be all over the internet. It makes perfect sense to announce the new challengers that people would actually get excited for early. Wii Fit Trainer, Villager, Mega Man and Pac-Man are all different characters, while Rosalina, Palutena, Shulk, Robin and Lucina are interesting to those who already like their series. Nobody was going to get excited over Bowser Jr or Dark Pit, even if they wind up being interesting fighters, and people certainly weren't going to get that excited over Ness or Falco. He got more hype from not announcing them.

@tripunktoj stop complaining. You obviously know nothing of pokemon

scrolled down, too tempting... still hoping for Geno

I almost dread Smash DLC. The whines and rants from people who's favorite was a DLC character will last beyond this universe and into the next. We'll have a game where 2 million people brought it, but 5 million are not buying the DLC and burning their copies because they don't want to pay for a character they loved that should have been free and was withheld b/c Nintendo has lost their way and turned into EA.

I however am looking forward to the 3DS version, and I was going to pass on it initially. DLC or not I plan to play as it is something to do on my lunch break that I seem to never take...

Dark Pit over Dark Samus..?
Did I not just see Light Suit, Dark Suit, Dark Samus, Varia Suit and Fusion color variants?
I highly doubt Dark Pit is going to be much more than a palette swap for Pit.

Gosh you people can't stop complaining
>Oh there are too much character clones in Mario Kart 8! The Roster sucks!!
>Oh there are to much character clones in Smash 4!! What a waste of character slots!!

All i was waiting for this smash was Ness
I'm happy with Ness being in smash, every other character is just a plus for me!

@thesilverbrick Roy is one of the best characters of Nintendo I've come across and was in the first Fire Emblem that came to USA for GBA. His story is epic, he is like the Simba of Nintendo. He experiences the death of his father in battle and grows up in the game. He is the main character for the second half of that game.

Most awesome roster ever in a Smash game!

Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr. are two more amazing choices for newcomers and it's good to see Game & Watch, Ness, and Wario come back! My only disappointment was that I was hoping DHD would replace R.O.B. and Ice Climbers would still be in the game...but oh well. DLC hopefully?

@Austroid the whole series is a huge bias against Sakurai's ego. Kirby characters are overpowered and "cool". Even more than Mario and DK which are more classic and important.

It's still a fun series but that can get annoying after a while.

@brutalpanda That's not Roy, that's Eliwood, Roy's father. Roy was in Fire Emblem 6, the first one the west got was 7, which was a prequel to 6. In fact, Roy is the only smash character to not be in a western released game(excluding smash of course)

Fantastic roster so far along with assists like Pong & Galaga this game is like a who's who of retro gaming! The stranger thing is that Nintendo mentioned they'd be doing Amiibo's of all these characters soo..... Duck Hunt figurine hell yes!

It is a bit gutting that characters like the Ice Climbers, Wolf & Snake are out but again there's still hope for DLC further down the line, the only other real disappointment is that the ESRB leak turned out to be true, would have preferred if that hadn't happened in a way then most of these would have been a pleasant surprise..

I'm seriously looking forward to this game now, it's even overshadowed my hype for Hyrule Warriors & Bayonetta at this point.

@Klunk23 Thanks for letting me know. I feel like a n00b now. I never played Melee after I played Fire Emblem and now forgot that wasn't him.

Dark Pit ugh
Dr. Mario ugh....
ROB UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!

Seriously, who even likes ROB?! (shut up) For the love of christ, Sakurai....

Im kind of disappointed with the full roster but i guess ness being playable made up for it...

@SamirMalik You're kidding right? Dark Pit is more interesting? Dark Samus' creation alone is more interesting.

She was the result of Metroid Prime's combination with Samus' Phazon suit following its defeat. In Prime 2 she was Samus in name only; she was a feral, yet calculating creature who's mission was to harvest Phazon all over the planet Aether, in order to gain strength. Her and Samus had multiple, intense encounters with little more than body language as their "dialogue." No quips, no generic "faker" banter; just body language.

In Prime 3 she basically became a god-like figure to the Space Pirates; brain-washing the ones who would serve her and making them her disciples, then outright killed those who opposed her. Throughout the game's Pirate Logs you find out she searched for planet Phaaze: the source of all Phazon; as well as discovering the Leviathans, which were basically controllable Phazon missiles. In the end she becomes one with Phaaze in order to fight Samus but ultimately fails.

Yeah, Dark Pit is so much more interesting. "A flawed, incomplete clone of Pit." Pit in looks only, huh? I think you've got it backwards. Those other tropes you listed for him don't help break the "cliché evil doppelganger" vibe he gives. He's no different than Shadow the Hedgehog.

@brutalpanda Not a problem. Eliwood does have a nice story. I don't know if you've played Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, that's Ike's story and its my personal favorite story from any Fire Emblem. Probably my favorite story from any Nintendo game.

@Klunk23 No I haven't, I read the gameplay in that is more bland so I was unsure on whether to buy a copy. I can buy it but they are quite expensive. Do you think it's worth it for $100? I do really like Fire Emblem.

And with the roster completed, the complaining starts...

I don't know how anyone can be unhappy with this lineup to be honest, pretty much 60+ characters if you count alternates like female Robin, Alph etc, regardless of who got put in someone was going to be unhappy, we may get DLC yet to get some more characters that people want. I would like to see some of the old characters return for DLC but I'm keeping my expectations in check for now & I'm happy with what we are getting!

I'd also be interested to know if Amiibo wise would Nintendo be doing separate figures for alternate characters like Bowser Jr/Koopalings??

@minotaurgamer I couldn't agree more. In Brawl we got two Kirby reps, now we got two Kid Icarus reps.

Meanwhile an F-Zero character (Goroh) and a Metroid character; (Dark Samus) who had plenty of potential to be reps, were demoted to assist trophies.

I smell a conspiracy...

@brutalpanda I personally enjoyed the gameplay in PoR more than in 7. Both are excellent games, but I liked the map design in PoR better.Felt a bit more varied. Plus the characters in it were awesome, not as good as in awakening, but still quite good. As for if it's worth the hundred dollars, hard to say.it's my second favorite Fire Emblem and a fantastic game, but I can't really say any gamecube game is worth $100. I found my copy at a local game store chain for $25 three years ago. Maybe keep looking. I would definitely recommend if you could find for cheaper.

@Austroid F-Zero has not had a new game in over a decade, for all intents and purposes its a dead series. It only needs a single playable rep until it gets a game that revives the series.

As for Metroid, I think there is still some backlash at Nintendo over how badly other M bombed.

As for Brawl getting Kirby reps, it should be noted that King Dedede and Meta Knight missed 64 and Melee in favor of adding characters from other series. This game also did not get any new playable reps fro the Kirby series. Kirby als deserves their three reps. It's a series that has sold more then Metroid and F-Zero.

As for Kid Icarus, its a game that Sakurai both worked on and the flavor of the month as the old series that had a recent successful game that revived it. Mother got the same treatment in Brawl, getting two reps in that game. Now, Lucas is gone and Ness is still the only one left.

II'm sure Kid Icarus will have the same thing happen to it next game. Kid Pit more then likely is a one-shot character.

@Melkac I ran into a decent number of ROB players online in Brawl. I think he's a good character and should stay in. Why does everybody bash ROB?

@minotaurgamer Kirby has not risen past lower mid tier since Melee where he was the worst character in that game. King Dedede is a top-mid tier character that pretty much gets by with a gimmick chaingrab in Brawl.

I know everyone is going to point out that Meta Knight is overpowered! But here's the thing, for all intents and purposes he's been nerfed in this game. He could very well end up in the garbage tier like Kirby who was top tier in 64 and horrble in Melee, and failed to reclaim his glory in Brawl.

I don't get how the Kirby characters are labeled as overpowered in these games. Characters from Star Fox have a much better showing between games, with at least one of them making the top tier in 64, Melee and Brawl.

YEEESSS! I get to play as Iggy!

I'm so happy right now...#sniff#

Koopalings!!!!!!!!!! Just give me Dixie and I'm set!

@randomous I feel you, since they were in Mario Kart 8, I was HOPING the Koopalings would be playable in Smash in some form! I love them all lol they shall be added to my main list....and I'll never use bowser jr. himself lol.

Where is mewtwo?

Where is ridley?

@Austroid Shadow is a rather serious character. Dark Pit, less so. Telling Pit that D.Pit is the better looking one dispite being a clone. Telling the antagonist to "break out the Brain Training" because there was a hole in their plan.
Dark Pit is gothic with attitude issues but he isn't evil if you spend time with his character. Even his creation, while simple, has a interesting twist to how he survives which is too spoilerish to mention.

Good, good.

Sakurai feeds on the tears of Nintendo fans whose favorite character did not get included.

morse code is played on 2:36. sakurai has a secret in that morse code. heres the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2yYZAT6ug
and the mores code means: Master Core?
M-ewtwo A-nd S-nake T-rue; E-veryone's R-eturning
C-horus Kids O-r R-idley? E-veryone

not if its real or not???

SPOILERS IN 3.........2..........................1.............................! Bowser Jr's. Final Smash is from Super Mario Sunshine, Shadow Mario.

Finally, the Koopalings can get their revenge on Mario! I'm not counting Mario Kart 8, since I consider that more of a friendly competition than an actual grudge match.

Will be maining Bowser Jr. (a.k.a. the Koopalings, a.k.a. Lemmy) for sure.

No Snake

@spongebob16 Orrrrrrr Master Core is the name of the boss where the morse code happens.

I think this is a good roster. The only thing that pissed me off is the laziness of some Final Smashes. I hate that Toon Link and Sheik still have the same from Brawl. And I haven't seen Lucina and Dark Pit's yet, but Dr. Mario's is basically a reskinned Mario Finale. Come on,man. There was so much potential in there.

Still. can't wait. I'm hoping for DLC in tue future for even more characters.

Great idea with the Koopalings!! They should have done that with the Fire Emblem characters instead of cluttering the character screen with fighters I won't select often.

@midnafanboy "I knew someone would reply back that way...Haha! 'Hook! Line! & Sinker!'" XD XD

@thesilverbrick "Haha. Wow."

@SamirMalik Attitude? I simply stated my opinions and didn't say anything insulting. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Not my intention.

@xj0462 And you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I'm not trying to stop you from wanting Waluigi in the game. I was just simply pointing out some of the reasons why he likely was not included. Simply put, he's not an important character in the grand scheme of things. That's all I was trying to say.

@brutalpanda I'm sure Roy has an interesting story in the one major came he was featured in. But since the Fire Emblem saga has over a dozen games now, it becomes difficult to just choose a handful that represent the series. Roy would have been a poor choice, considering that the game that contains the bulk of his story only was released in one country. Sure, he had a very, very brief cameo in the end of a Fire Emblem game that saw an international release, but that certainly didn't make enough of an impact with international gamers to warrant an inclusion in Smash Bros, when there are so many other Fire Emblem characters from games released everywhere that people can identify with. Fan service and nostalgia are a huge part of Smash, and putting characters in it that only certain regions can identify with really limits that.

@SamirMalik And just so you know, Dark Samus is not Samus at all. If you've played and completed Metroid Prime, you would have seen that Dark Samus is Metroid prime itself after stealing the shell of her Phazon suit. There's no human body inside there. It's entirely Metroid. Far, far more interesting than Dark Pit, if you ask me.

R.O.B. i'm pumped

One of my favorite smash brothers memories. Set Jigglypuff to max difficulty, grab two friends and you all team up to defeat her. That was so much fun. And Jigglypuff was actually difficult at max settings, sometimes we would wipe.

Haha Man. This is so nostalgic. I'm getting the same disappointment I got when Brawl's roster got leaked.

@BertoFlyingFox Where's Wolf?

...Dark Pit? Dark Pit? DARK PIT!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKc7f0k_g9w

@Caryslan I highly doubt whether or not a series is currently "dead" determines if they should have a new rep. If anything, more reps would help the series get more attention.

Other M was a polarizing game, but it wouldn't be the reason to not have any new reps. Because every other series has had 9-10/10 games every time, right?

Sakurai just doesn't care for Metroid or F-Zero. Goroh and Dark Samus had every right to be playable. Making them assist trophies and instead adding Dark Pit (and Dr. Mario, I still don't get that) is nothing short of insulting. He simply favors the series' he's worked on; and judging by this final roster, I stand by that.

@SamirMalik That's all fine and dandy, but at the end of the day he's still a palette-swap of Pit. If he was more different in appearance from regular Pit besides black, then I wouldn't mind as much.

Good that Ganondorf is back. Doctor Mario is unnecesary. But the Duckhunt dog, that could be interesting.