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Topic: Street Fighter 2: Whats the Differance?

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DjPhatskillz

weirdadam wrote:

the fact that Super Street Fighter IV is supposed to come out at a discounted price does make it tempting since I haven't bought the original yet...

SICK! it will be $39.99 instead of $59.99...thanks capcom (stupid exspensive xbox/ps3 games)! i still dont understand why they couldn't make it down loadable content, from what i understand its like t-hawk, deejay and some new character...probably some new back grounds and songs.....whatever.... i have to buy it anyway i guess.... it just sucks cause T hawk and deejay ARE NOT new characters and i don't understand why they couldn't have been in the game originally (lord knows the roster of SFIV is not that deep anyways!). i guess i will just have to put my faith in capcom to deliver a good product (which i think they will, other wise i see no reason they couldn't just make it a DLC....right?).

also to answer this thread i see no reason why some one wouldn't buy The New Challengers unless they have a particular version they like via nostalgia (looking at you Luke, repping that og SFII, that game rules!). The New Challengers is the best you can on the virtual console.

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Adam

They confirmed an actual price? All I read in their IGN interview was that it would not be full price. The Capcom guy said they're looking at 8-ish new characters, new stages (as if anyone really cares), and some new modes, I think, improved online play (is the online mode bad? I've only played in arcades), in addition to the usual tweaking. If I already had the original, I'd be super ticked because I agree with you, it seems like it should be DLC. More money grubbing, looks like to me, but maybe I'm ignorant. I hope for the sake of early adopters that at least some of this is made available via a patch, though obviously the characters won't be.

Hopefully this is the only update before a real sequel. I lucked out when I decided to just stick to HD until I got bored of it before getting IV, but if I get Super IV and it's outdated a year later... Can't afford that. I don't think Capcom can either, though. Versus fighters aren't that popular anymore to warrant constant updating like with SFII. Time shall tell!

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DjPhatskillz

no price confirmed, but honestly do you think that it will be cheaper? im sure they will milk us for all we have, than hold us upside down until the change drops out of our pockets. but im just talking out of my ass, no one knows what the game will be like....it could be totally worth it.

Online mode for og SFIV is ok but it could be better (i feel that way with any online game though)....so that sounds cool but honestly i don't really play it online so its kinda a worthless to me. but like i said i trust capcom to put out a good product. i just think its hilarious that they are continuing in the old tradition. when i saw the news via gamespot's twitter i was like "awwwwwwwwwwww shit, are you kidding me? i have to go though this again?" i say less fakesies half sequels and more hd remixs (ala street fighter 3 and dark stalkers!)

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Adam

I'd love to see Street Fighter Alpha HD. Those were some good ones. I only recently played Alpha for the first time. Embarrasingly enough, I've still never played SF3, and I don't know what Dark Stalkers is.

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StarBoy91

I haven't played DarkStalkers yet, but from what I read: it's another one-on-one fighter from Capcom featuring creatures unlike any human out there.

To each their own

chard5000

actually SSFIV is supposed to have between 8 and 11 characters added.
theres a full list of rumored changes here:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/sep/24/rumors-more-street-...

And Starboy, you should really search out a way to try Darkstalkers. Darkstalkers is like Street Fighter, with monsters, featuring chain combos like the ones in the Vs. series, and EX moves like in SFIV.

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Adam

Just looked it up... so that's where Morrigan's from. Looks awesome. Reminds me of Guilty Gear how fast and agile everyone is. I sure missed out on a lot of good-looking fighters by staying loyal to Nintendo for so long. Between the SNES and a year ago when I got a PS3, the only new releases I really had to look forward to were Mortal Kombat games, which have gradually gotten worse and worse since MK4, I've found. I hope they remake Darkstalkers using the SFIV engine like the developer said he'd like to in the IGN interview.

As one final derailing (sorry, OP), how do 3 and EX compare to the other Street Fighter series? I've played all the SFII games, IV, and the first Alpha (eagerly awaiting Alpha 3 on PSN, if it ever comes out). EX looks weird, not graphically, but how characters move. Think I need to take a trip to the Gamestop and load up on old fighters, with Darkstalkers at the top of the want list.

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Bass_X0

Well, thanks for making it personal by calling me ignorant. That's always fun. Sure beats just stating your differing opinion politely, clearly a much more boring option.

I said "shows ignorance" not that you were ignorant. I was saying how Capcom is a company which makes money and the Street Fighter series was the hottest thing ever in the videogame world at the time so of course they made multiple versions until the hype started dying down - they would have been fools not to do so (although everyone could have done without the Van Damme movie). Yet you completely ignored this and called it a "despicable scheme" as if a company making money was a very bad thing and that by making multiple versions that Capcom was just conning people into buying the same game over and over again.

Although the differences between versions seems very minor these days - playing as the bosses, playing against the same character, a new special move or two, turbo speed, different colored costumes and backgrounds - they were big deals at the time and certainly worth buying the upgraded game if you were a fan. The fans were happy, Capcom was happy. It was only when Super Street Fighter II Turbo came out in the arcades, despite being the best game in the SF2 series, that the fans were starting to want something more.

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Adam

Whether Capcom makes money or not is entirely irrelevant since neither of us works for the company. I'm just saying that it is not good for the consumer, not the company.

From this consumer (and many others)'s perspective, it is a complete rip-off. SSF2T contains just about everything the incremental sequels have. Not only do they put out only incrementally updated games constantly, but they actually removed a feature they'd already developed, the speed settings in New Challengers, just so they could make us buy it again when they brought the feature back in SSF2 Turbo. Ideally, I think SSFIIT should have been the only update of the original (for consoles), as the others were mere stepping stones toward a fully-realized sequel. The differences between versions seem just as minor today as they did then. Even back in the day everyone I knew made fun of the ridiculous amounts of versions of the same game, and from this thread it looks like I'm still not alone in this opinion.

If you're fine with this business practice, that's fine; I never pretended to care if anyone agrees. But it is more polite to state your difference of opinion than to say that the other poster doesn't know what he's talking about (regardless of the part of speech used: ignorant, ignore, ignorance... it means the same). You have no basis for saying I ignored anything. All this is doing is disagreeing but escalating the terms of disagreement unnecessarily by using presumptuous and somewhat charged language. I don't mean to make much ado about nothing, but an explanation was in order, so please don't think I'm ticked off or anything, just speaking my piece.

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LinktotheFuture

Super Street Fighter II is the best one. I also downloaded Turbo, but if you only want one, get Super.

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Ristar42

I'd say if you want to play them them import Capcom Gen 5 on the Saturn, close to arcade perfect...
However on the VC, I'm not a fan of Super myself, I'd take special Champion Edition on the Megadrive if I had to pick. Having said that, Special Champion Edition and Hyper Fighting SNES are almost the same game - I just prefer the Megadrive's rougher look + the extra speed. I've got both on VC.
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warioswoods

I don't remember the incremental upgrades bothering me, but that's because I wasn't buying those, just playing them in arcades. I'd like to think that's the reason they stuck to such an odd model; it actually makes sense in the arcade setting, when everyone crowds around the latest upgrade to Street Fighter 2, and you (the customer) aren't having to pay anything different from your usual 1-2 quarters. When they started porting each of those to home consoles, however, I can see the cause for complaint, as they're asking you to buy the entire game over again.

Also, I loved Alpha 3, and I even had a lot of fun with those semi-3D EX games, which we'd play very competitively on emulators in college sometimes.

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DjPhatskillz

weirdadam wrote:

Just looked it up... so that's where Morrigan's from. Looks awesome. Reminds me of Guilty Gear how fast and agile everyone is. I sure missed out on a lot of good-looking fighters by staying loyal to Nintendo for so long. Between the SNES and a year ago when I got a PS3, the only new releases I really had to look forward to were Mortal Kombat games, which have gradually gotten worse and worse since MK4, I've found. I hope they remake Darkstalkers using the SFIV engine like the developer said he'd like to in the IGN interview.

As one final derailing (sorry, OP), how do 3 and EX compare to the other Street Fighter series? I've played all the SFII games, IV, and the first Alpha (eagerly awaiting Alpha 3 on PSN, if it ever comes out). EX looks weird, not graphically, but how characters move. Think I need to take a trip to the Gamestop and load up on old fighters, with Darkstalkers at the top of the want list.

street fighter 3 is ridiculously legendary. while it has a good amount of stuff that separates it from other street fighter games, most notable is the parry system it has. its totally sick. the ex games are cool but not really the best street fighter games out there and kinda bank on the whole graphic gimmick that doesn't really play out well these days (or at least have the same effect it used to.) personally i loved the ex games, they're lots of fun. but where as street fighter ex is a novel take on a 2d fighting game, street fighter 3 is a work of art. i used to actually like SF3 the most out of all the SF games. but than i got The New Challengers on the VC and was like "oh yeah, this game is possible the best fighting game ever..." i love street fighter 3 so much though and the only copy i have is on my ps2 anniversary collection and im not about to get my ps2 going. i really wish they would put Street Fighter 3: The 3rd Strike on the Virtual Console Arcade....buuuut i doubt that will happen. as for a XBLA/PS3 HD Remix, i think that we could actually see that. That Seth dude who is like the american capcom internet mega bro once twittered about people asking for it....so who knows...

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Ristar42

You should also try Alpha (Zero) 2 and 3 also as they are much, much better than the first. I could never get into SF3 but Third Strike is best I guess - Garou: Mark of the Wolves by SNK (last in the Fatal Fury series) is one of my favourite fighters ever.

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DjPhatskillz

you know ristar42, i have totally heard that about SF3. i think its one of those "you love it or dont care bout it" kinda games.

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Adam

I almost got the anniversary collection today but figured Gamestop's $25 price tag was too much when I was just getting it for Third Strike.

I also just saw that Alpha 2 actually had an SNES edition? That's weird since it was not only a Playstation game but a sequel to a Playstation game. I might have to get that for the novelty of it if I ever track down some good SNES pads since my only working ones aren't responsive enough for action games.

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Ristar42

@DjPhatskillz I think its down to the push forward to parry / counter system, a great SF3 player is amazing to watch (there are loads on vids on youtube), but it requires a lot of practice, too much for me at least.

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DjPhatskillz

@Adam you 25 bucks huh? well you also get the Street Fighter II anime too! lol

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Adam

Haha, I noticed that, and strangely it did not sway me.

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Bass_X0

weirdadam wrote:

I almost got the anniversary collection today but figured Gamestop's $25 price tag was too much when I was just getting it for Third Strike.

I also just saw that Alpha 2 actually had an SNES edition? That's weird since it was not only a Playstation game but a sequel to a Playstation game. I might have to get that for the novelty of it if I ever track down some good SNES pads since my only working ones aren't responsive enough for action games.

Alpha 2 was released on the Saturn, the PlayStation and the SNES. The Saturn version was the best port of the arcade game, the PlayStation version was so-so but the SNES version was terrible - trying to force a 32-bit arcade game onto the SNES will do that. Also it had load times. "Round One... Fight" then you wait five seconds before the fight actually starts. It had missing animation, under-detailed sprites and only arcade and vs. mode; it didn't even have a training mode.

The first Street Fighter Alpha game appeared on the Game Boy Color with predictable results. And as you should know, Alpha 3 appeared on the GB Advance which was a terrible port. The Alpha series has never been given the justice it deserves on Nintendo machines.

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