Topic: New Super Mario Bros. Wii - Official Boxart

I like it because it reminds me that they brought Yoshi back to 2-D platforming

the two toads are a little annoying

Dang so many games coming out in a few months that I want. And now I want this one really bad too.

Wario and Waluigi should replace the Toads.

It would have been nice if it was like Super Mario 2, where you could choose who you would be, Mario, Luigi, Toad, Wario, Waluigi, Yoshi, you get the idea, but I am going to get this the day it comes out, it will be awesome.

It looks so awesome.

im getting pushed closer and closer to buying this game

Why wouldn't you buy it?

looks - awesome

EDit : for the record - wario and waluigi should end up in the Dharma Ditch on Lost....

Don't know his reason, but my reason for hesitation is that the level design looks worse than NSMB DS's. I enjoyed NSMB enough for a portable title, playing through it three or four times, but I wonder if this will be worth the retail price. So few games are really worth $50+ to me.

Of course, I'm not really concerned. Even if it's the worst Mario game ever, it'll be easy to sell near enough to the retail price afterwards.

@Adam: Yeah, plus there are more levels, which usually means less attention to the design.

Its funny you are ocncerned about spending $50 on a physical copy game Adam that as you mention you could resell when you are such a big supporter of wiiware and I beleieve the virtual console - games that are locked to your system. And I do mean locked, Even if you sell your wii good luck geting compensated for your wiiware vc library - am I right?

Anyway - this game will be a lot about the multiplayer.....NSMB had nice control and stage design, I expect this game to be top notch.....

@ SPM
I never thought about it that way. I sure hope that's not the case. But if playing in the penguin suit is as fun as it looks, I may be able to overlook this, if it turns out to be bad.

Edit: Orlick, I just said I knew I could resell it in the very same message... I'm usually concerned because of the price tag and was saying that might be his concern, but unlike most games, this will probably be easy to resell near retail price, as I already stated, so I'm not concerned about NSMB particularly... Not sure what you're getting at. I'm just saying I have mixed expectations for the game.

That was my point - why worry about an extremly popular 1rst partry Nintendo game that will never have a retail price drop when you are a digital download no demo/no refund/no resell/no trade - type gamer.

I am confused by your apprehension.

Hell you think Super Smash Wii is the greatest disc game in the system and it is far from, really. I mean the subspace emiisary, aside from its completely awesome enemy charachter design (not talking baout parakrappas here) is pretty much bland stew?

Unless you liked the fawful cutscenes, which probably ate up most of the dev time....

Uh, no, that's my point. I just said I'm not worried... twice! How much clearer can I be? I'm getting the game, and if I don't like it, I'm going to sell it back, and I doubt I'll lose more than $10-15 in the process. I am confused by your inability to comprehend such a simple statement.

I also don't see what your opinion of Brawl has anything to do with this. I've probably played that game more than everything else on my Wii combined, including VC. Whether or not you like it has absolutely nothing to do with its monetary worth to me, and it's absolutely baffling that you would think otherwise. Believe it or not, when I decide to purchase a game, it is not because I thought to myself, "Hmm, I bet Orlick would like this game." Usually it's "Hmm, I bet I would like this game."

Is that so unusual?

Well Adam, you make remarkable comments - can you be surprised if I remark on them ???

OK, if forums were just random comments form random tom random dick and random harry - they would be worthless. On a board such as this, where you get a sense of people and their game taste, their opinions on games you have not bought can give you a SENSE, just a sense of wether you may like it or not. So, I like to get a better sense of you, cause we do have a few things in common....

So I find some of your posts somewhat remarakble.

I wonder what it is about brawl you find so remaarkable to be the only wii game you feel warrants a $50 purchase.

I know you have played Wii Resort extensively, so me wonders if you bought it, or rented it, or resold it. Me wonders how you make out on that.

I wonder how you could be so cautious/concerned about 'value' on games you can buy at retail and actually own, when you support the digital service where true ownership is a chimera.

I wonder how you fell you have sense enough for the 'level design' in this game to feel it looks 'worse' than NSMB's, which apparently only squeeks by because it is a 'portable' Mario.

I wonder if you enjoy Brawl for the mulitplayer, and then I wonder if it is for local mulitplayer, and then I wonder if NSMB would not also possibly scratch that itch?

I am not saying you are a hypocrite or have poor taste, no, nothing like that. (If that is what you are implying?)

I just find it interesting, it would help me guage your opinions better to know WHY you feel as you do, not THAT you feel as you do.

No, I certainly did not think you were calling me a hypocrite. I just didn't understand the relevance of your comment. I mean no offense when I say this, but I sincerely don't care what anyone else thinks about Brawl.

But since you ask, yes, I play it for offline multiplayer mostly, though I like to play online when I can. Maybe NSMB will scratch the same itch. I can't tell you yet, obviously.

My general reluctance to buy retail games is because generally you cannot resell games for anywhere near retail value. NSMB Wii will likely be an exception to this, though, which is why I said I'm not concerned about it. I mostly buy VC, and that's not a risk because I've played these games before. I don't buy WW games much anymore, but even still they're cheap.

And lastly, about the level design, obviously I don't know much. I'm just looking at the trailer, and I see wide open levels without much going on.

You kind of asked a lot, so I don't know if that answers everything. Usually when I have a group of four or more at my place we play board games, but NSMB will probably be our new thing for the holidays, assuming it's good.

@Adam
Do you play Risk? I like Risk.

I have Risk 2210. You can go to the moon.

I am still curious if that is ok Adam - do you typically rent more or buy and resell more? Or do you wait to buy used? Like what did you do with Sports Resort. If you did resell it I am curious to see how much you can typically get back, if that is your custom and you do it a lot. Cause even if you lost $5-$10 well that is gonna be pretty eqivelant on the low end to most rentals and on the high end to most wiiware....so I am not sure if there is a lot of difference.

I buy used retail except on highly anticipated games I fanboy over and buy more or less week one....I also like going back a generation and trying to find games I did not want to buy new at that time.....

I no longer buy any VC cause I have all the cream of the crop games I want and it is WAY to easy to get stuck with a mediocre game based on someone elses breathless recommendation.

I am a very catious wiiware buyer, cause it is both victim to internet wildfire hype and also to bias and also to general over-rated-ness, everything is a 7. Like a pond of rubber ducks, pull it out 95% of them have 7 on the bottom, and it aint much of a prize!