I thought it was just clearer from being played through HDMI and the Wii U syncing better than the Wii to HDTVs. I did notice it was clearer, and there was no lag from the console in games like Mega Man and Dance Dance, but does that still count as upscaling? Maybe I'm getting mixed up from that device(Dolphin?) that recodes things better or something...? Definately though, the Wii U plays the Wii games way better through HDMI, than Wii through component cables. Mine says it's running 1080p, but it still looks 'more dry', than the Wii U. Just old tech.
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I agree that Skyward Sword and The Last Story do not look improved however I was playing Grand Slam Tennis and it is like Night & Day between the Wii and WIi U. I understand the graphics aren't very good to begin with but it is so much crisper on the Wii U.
Yeah, the Wii games look so much better on the Wii U. The color seems much sharper to me.
However, I also noticed that the games seem a bit more pixelated at the edges of color, especially in bright games like Return to Dreamland. It's hardly noticeable, but you can kind of spot individual pixels a bit easier if you look reaaallly closely. I guess that must be a side effect of the upscaling, or maybe I'm just imagining it. Even with a slightly more blocky Kirby, though, I find that the upscaling is definitely a nice plus.
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Ya the makes sense Waveboy. What about putting it into 16:9, and then switching it to full screen? I have heard 4:3 is better in the VC games case, but I do think I would rather have more on screen than just being clearer(both would be best of course). I used to turn GCN games onto widescreen before even knowing what the hell an HDTV was and prefered that most of the time... Would that be the same case you think?
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So sweet! I'm glad to hear this! @Jellitoe actually made news of this before Nintendo Life did. I can't wait to play the Metroid Prime trilogy again!! Oh and Super Mario Galaxy should be amazing!!!
Ya, you have to choose one cable. It would be cool if Nintendo let you use the bluetooth to send signals to a reciever like an bluetooth media device. I'm stuck with stereo for now though... my systems pretty beat up from blasting it 14 hours straight at a party, so I need a new one anyway.
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I noticed people complaining about colors being washed out. I noticed in twilight princess that colors seems less dark, brighter especially in the first couple of screens. I for one like it better this way, things seem clearer. But yes things are brighter on the Wii U than the Wii. But again, everything is clearer, more crisp, and way better to look at. Makes even older Wii games seem new and fresh (on HDTV).
That shouldn't be. When I tested Super Metroid I noticed that the colors looked much better at 1080p than they did if I set the system to 480p and let the TV upscale (as the Wii did).
Do you have your black level set correctly? The Wii U should use the limited range, or "low" setting. If you use the full "high" range (which is what the Wii did over component) then the picture will look overly bright and weak. My TV auto-adjusted to high for some reason when I started using it and I thought my games looked crappy and washed out too.
My Wii U is set to run on 1080 as a default
I did not mess with any of the Wii settings for the Wii U, so I am assuming the Wii U is running the Wii at 480p or 720p (upscaled) not 1080.
There is a small border (black) when I switch to the Wii from the Wii U, not sure if anyone else has noticed this. This border goes away when in Wii U mode.
The border is small and you forget its there when playing (at least in my experience.)
I also have that border when using the internet browser
Your TV must have some overscan issues. You can adjust this for each application on the Wii U. You can find adjustments for the Internet Browser in its settings. Then you should be able to get the browser to fit on your screen.
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I noticed people complaining about colors being washed out. I noticed in twilight princess that colors seems less dark, brighter especially in the first couple of screens. I for one like it better this way, things seem clearer. But yes things are brighter on the Wii U than the Wii. But again, everything is clearer, more crisp, and way better to look at. Makes even older Wii games seem new and fresh (on HDTV).
That shouldn't be. When I tested Super Metroid I noticed that the colors looked much better at 1080p than they did if I set the system to 480p and let the TV upscale (as the Wii did).
Do you have your black level set correctly? The Wii U should use the limited range, or "low" setting. If you use the full "high" range (which is what the Wii did over component) then the picture will look overly bright and weak. My TV auto-adjusted to high for some reason when I started using it and I thought my games looked crappy and washed out too.
Got me wrong bud, I wasn't complaining about it, I was simply stating that people were saying that the colors looked washed out. In my case I see everything more crisp, bright and less hazy, I prefer it this
I reached out to Nintendo to see what is the official stance on why Wii games seems better on Wii U, hopefully they will send me a technical answer instead of a lame response.
EDIT -"They gave me a lame response - " Unfortunately, we do not have exact information about why some Wii games look better on Wii U. However, since the Wii U console has improved hardware, it supplies great video quality even for older games.
I know you were probably hoping for more information. If you have any further questions or concerns, feel free to visit our website at http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu."
The WiiU does NOT upscale Wii games. Which is quite imposible, because modern day computers can't emulate the Wii @ 1080p with 60fps. What the WiiU does, however, is upscale the video output of the console. Which means that the output is always the resolution you set it to. (1080p over HDMI) which upscales the picture of Wii games which are still rendered @ 480p.
You're right, but you're also mixing the terminology. Upscaling has never been described as increasing the rendering resolution, so by saying it doesn't upscale games but it does upscale the output, you confuse people, because to upscale in both cases is the same thing.
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The WiiU does NOT upscale Wii games. Which is quite imposible, because modern day computers can't emulate the Wii @ 1080p with 60fps. What the WiiU does, however, is upscale the video output of the console. Which means that the output is always the resolution you set it to. (1080p over HDMI) which upscales the picture of Wii games which are still rendered @ 480p.
All 1080p TVs are natively 1920x1080 pixels. No matter what input you'll give it. So your TV will automatically upscale the picture. But on cheaper TVs this will make the image look worse. The Wii U does the same thing by itself and does a better job at it than most cheap HDTVs. Also HDMI has more bandwidth than component which also improves the image quality.
Modern day computers can do that...
but from what I've heard is that only NTSC games are being "rendered in a higher resolution" whereas PAL games are just brougt to highest Wii resolution possible and then the TV takes over upscaling the image.
I have the urge to try this myself...but...I don't wanna transfer all my stuff to the Wii U...or start over again in any of my games. Bleh...lol.
If only the Wii U could play GCN games.
Wait, would it allow me to move savefiles such as Fortune Street and Skyward Sword over to the Wii U without dealing with the transfer?
All your game saves will be transfered to your Wii U from what I recall(I did it day one). You'll actually be transfering your saves to your Wii if you want to play your Wii discs on Wii.
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Was playing me some Metroid Prime Corruption on my 40 inch Wii U installed TV and was expecting my graphics to seem worse than my 32 inch wii installed via composite cables. I was unbelievably surprised how much better the game not only looked but played on the Wii. Noticed the same thing on Twilight Princess. Did not notice this difference with Skyward sword tho.
But the Metroid difference seemed huge.
Don't forget that your new tv might also be giving you a better picture. I had a 46in LCD go bad about 5 months ago and got a replacement. Thankfully it was still under warranty and I got a new model. As soon as I loaded up my Wii games even on the title screen I could see the difference in picture clearity. It made me want to replay all my old games again just to see how good everything looked. I was shocked how much better a new tv 4 years newer actually made my Wii games look. I didn't think they looked that bad before the tv switch but was still amazed at the difference. I'm sure the hdmi is also helping a bit as well.
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