Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

When Corrin comes in February I can do an Anime Swordsman 8-Player Smash: Marth, Ike, Robin, Lucina, Roy, Corrin, Shulk, and Cloud.

On the bit about the Smash Ballot and Bayonetta not "winning" it. I think it's fair to assume that some characters for whatever reason wouldn't have worked. Some of the ones people were voting for (like Wolf) wouldn't have been that interesting. Others might have been hard to strike an agreement with (Snake, Rayman, Banjo-Kazooie) or hard to get working (King K. Rool, Ridley). For all we know characters like Shovel Knight were high in the US but not even on the radar in Japan.

But if Bayonetta was 5th globally? They only skipped over 4 characters before landing on here. That's not a lot really. Especially given that she was in the top 5 across all regions and #1 in Europe. I must admit that I was one of the people who didn't want Bayonetta even though I'm a fan of those games. I just couldn't see how she'd fit and so instead leant towards characters like the Inklings or Shovel Knight. But now I've seen the trailer I'm sold.... and am kinda wondering why I thought she wouldn't work.

The add on content store still won't update for me on 3ds, I get an error code which Nintendo's site says is for not being connected to the internet, which makes no sense because the connection is fine every where else and only stops in the add on content store, always at the same time.. I'm really angry because the dlc characters I've paid for have been taken off me.

cough Where were you for like the last year or so cough

Got Cloud and Midgar. Now to wait for Bayonetta and Corrin. Both of which I'm excited for, but honestly, like we really needed another Fire Emblem character.

I thought it looked ok. They'll shrink a bit when you add the last two characters though.

The salt in Smash Bros' Facebook page is real. Really real.
Sigh... It does make me wish Inklings and/or Layton were confirmed, though...

I'm pretty satisfied with Bayonneta in Smash

My one last Smash wish would be "add all the music to the 3ds game". I'd pay for that.

I actually want 3DS stages on Wii U...or some Wii U stages on 3DS.

Well I don't think the age rating is at all an issue. It's not like they're going to copy over the most "extreme" parts of the language, gore and themes of Bayonetta. Plus it's not like she's the first character from a more "mature" game to appear in Smash.

My original issue was that she'd be out of place being more of a "real" character. I wasn't a huge fan of Snake in Brawl for similar reasons. But watching the trailer I think she fits in rather well. For some reason even though I'd played the game I couldn't separate the style of Bayonetta from what Bayonetta actually does as a character. I didn't like the idea of bringing guns to a Pikmin fight. But I forgot how many abilities Bayonetta has and how well they can all work in Smash.

Well, it's paid DLC, it's like it's own separate product.

The ersb/etc rated the base game, and I assume they can give different ratings to each DLC item individually or just add the usual "online interactions and etc are not rated by us" message.

I wasn't that excited for the newcomers at first but now I'm pretty excited.

So I bought Cloud in the eshop but when I boot up the game he is not there... tried restarting several times and still nothing. Do I have to delete all my add-on data and redownload everything? Or will that mean I have to pay again?

Aaaaaand same thing with the Geno outfit

I wonder how people would have felt if the DLC was ONLY veterans. Lucas, Mewtwo, Roy, Snake, Ice Climbers, and Wolf.

Did u update? Turn on/off again?

@Tsurii: Corrin? Bland? I'd guarantee you that an incredible amount of the smash community would say that Corrin is the most unique FE roster'd character.

So I'm very torn about this presentation. Extremely torn. On the pro side, I'm so happy none of this leaked aside from the Geno hat. And all three of these characters are awesome. I don't care as much for Corrin because he's our sixth FE character and once again from a game we haven't had a chance to play, yet, but he still looks cool and really fun to play as. I din't think I will be able to work out Bayo as her style doesn't really seem to suit me and she actually seems really complicated. These characters were all very interesting and after binging Cloud mirrors for a couple hours with my roommate, I'm very happy with his addition to the roster, just as I predicted.

But now I can't just ignore the loud voice in my gut screaming "BS! BS! I CALL BS!" Aside from Corrin feeling like an advertisement for FE Fates, rather than a hall of fame entry like I feel some of these characters should, I'm having a lot of trouble believing Bayonetta was realky that high on the polls (lul). Not that I doubt her popularity, but is seems almost TOO unexpected. She wasn't even really on a lot of people's radars for the ballot from what I can tell. I feel like they might have needed to say no to a few characters before arriving at her. I wanna see some official results, anyways. And that's not even stating the most obvious problem I have with this. I suppose that presents problems of its own, though.

See, I'm extremely sad Wolf isn't coming back. Like, I'm not just salty or buttered, but legitimately bummed that he's not returning to Smash. As in after I got done playing a ton of Cloud matches, I took a moment and laid in bed and started realizing that his last opportunity to be in Smash 4 is gone and my hype is completely gone.

Now I know that expecting Sakurai to bring back every character is a bit much. Hell, Wolf only even made it into Brawl by the skin of his teeth. But I suppose that's what bothers me about this. He was considered important enough to squeeze into Brawl at the last minute. So why wasn't he important enough to be in Smash 4? I mean, you kept his stage. You kept his theme. You even gave Fox one of his moves. Wolf just seems like such a glaring omission, just as he did when Smash 4 first came out.

Not just that, but no new DK character really stings. Donkey Kong got shafted insanely hard in this iteration. It really seems unfair to DK fans.

Meanwhile, we got not one, BUT TWO Fire Emblem characters for DLC. When four already felt like just a bit much to begin with. And they both were introduced to the Smash series as advertisements for games we hadn't gotten to play yet, thus had no reason to care about.

I think what I really wanna say is that Wolf should've been added, rather than Roy. In hindsight, Roy seems like the weakest link by a longshot. The only real argument I could see for jot accepting that swap is that two returning Brawl vets in the same update is less exciting than one from Brawl and one from Melee. Even then, we had already gotten Mewtwo back.

Whatever. You know and I know I could rant for ages about why excluding Wolf was a bad idea, but that won't change anything, so I guess I'll just go mope around in my corner about it for a couple weeks.

@UGXwolf: I wanted Wolf and I ain't even mad bro.

Watching people's reactions to Bayonetta is the best. They're as good as the Megaman reveal reactions. Man. Can't wait for the rest of this DLC! Corrin looks so interesting too!

@TeeJay: Again. I'm happy for all the characters in this Direct. They feel like a veru deserved ending to Smash DLC. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. Let down. Because with all things considered, Wolf feels like he should've been here somewhere and he's not. No offense to Roy fans, but I just can't help but feel Wolf should've been in the second character pack, instead.