@FattyWhale_42: Oh! I don't know why that didn't occur to me but it's a clever idea and I should've been able to figure it out. I'll attempt it again later today. I did find a hidden mario kart mushroom in the beginning but you can't have that and the helemet so I had to start over because I couldn't get past the thwomps anymore. I thought it was cool because it was kind of like a poison mushroom... you should know not to take it.
One trick I use when people aren't figuring out my courses, which happens to me so much that it's frustrating, is post comments on the course with hints. People will only see them if they have the comments turned on but I've noticed it give a small boost to the completion rates on some of my courses.
@FattyWhale_42: Oh! I don't know why that didn't occur to me but it's a clever idea and I should've been able to figure it out. I'll attempt it again later today. I did find a hidden mario kart mushroom in the beginning but you can't have that and the helemet so I had to start over because I couldn't get past the thwomps anymore. I thought it was cool because it was kind of like a poison mushroom... you should know not to take it.
The mushroom is actually there in case you get hit by either the first shell, or lose the shell on the thwomps. Because you'll need it to get past either the alternate exit, or to get to the hidden star, so you can finish getting past the thwomps. Hence the "Lose it!" part of the title.
@FattyWhale_42: I like your use of strategy! @DarthNocturnal: Like Chandlero pointed out, that problem is already very real. The solution of course is better curating by Nintendo but so far they seem to pretty much do no curating at all which is a huge shame. I can get close to the end in Expert 100-Mario Challenge but I cannot for the life of me find the experience enjoyable. Playing Expert just simply isn't fun in my opinion. Tagging would be really, really helpful. Then we could filter out courses that get a certain tag enough, like auto or troll. I know they want everyone's courses to get played but they are not taking into consideration the fact that most people don't want to play most courses and lots of skipping really takes away from the fun.
@FattyWhale_42: One trick I use when people aren't figuring out my courses, which happens to me so much that it's frustrating, is post comments on the course with hints. People will only see them if they have the comments turned on but I've noticed it give a small boost to the completion rates on some of my courses.
I might need to see if I can come up with something that adds to the experience, without feeling like it's taking the "discovery" out.
This level I uploaded a while back got taken off the servers since it was the only one with no Stars... I made minor changes to it so it's a bit more fair to the player and re-uploaded it. I've seen the conversation here stating how the creator's the worst player tester (which I agree with but didn't really realise until now), so I'd appreciate any feedback for the level. It's not easy though!
Hi everyone,
Nintendo said on its own website that "Players can choose to edit and re-upload their own levels, or create new levels from scratch using this feature." http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/y4CXKkMg2o_eC5_U 0mA2vxeb05Q8Gyc0
Since I couldn't find an option to do that, I assumed the game would recognize my level and replace the older version. But instead, upon uploading it just created a second level. How can I update my already uploaded level? Google didn't help, it only shows me info about the MM update.
Thanks in advance and best regards
My GOTY? Legend Of Zelda: Splat of the child. Ah no, I meant LoZ: Breath of the SPLATOOOON!
@shani: that's definitely a feature that we would all really love but unfortunately it does not actually exist. I'm afraid you misunderstand what you read. What it's telling you is that you can do exactly what you did, edit the course and upload it again. There is no way to make changes to a course and have it stay on the server. I have had to delete and re-upload many of my courses many times. They would show considerably more stars if I had not done that but it was necessary to add checkpoints and other improvements. However, all of the stars still count for you even though you cannot see them on your courses anymore.
@AdamLikesNintend: Ah okay, that's sad, because it was one of the features I looked forward the most. Thanks for clearing it up!
Yeah I knew that about the stars, already had to reupload several of my levels because of the lack of an update feature. Strange enough, if you try to upload the same course twice, the game is able to recognize this and tells you can't upload the same course twice lol. ^^
My GOTY? Legend Of Zelda: Splat of the child. Ah no, I meant LoZ: Breath of the SPLATOOOON!
Yeah I knew that about the stars, already had to reupload several of my levels because of the lack of an update feature.
An update feature as you imagine would not be very good. On the one hand, the comments, the clear rate and stars that were given for a level, would after an upload operate for a different level. That is not very fair and even unpractical since comments are fixed in a position that could change after an update.
And on the other hand, the most important thing: A level upload is a publication. Every developer, writer or researcher has to check her work before making it public. The option to change small or big errors without the knowing of the public is simply cheating. When you have made mistakes or found better solutions, you have to communicate this with an new publication. Your update feature would mask this process.
My level "Ghosts in the machine" got several version since I worked over quite a time on it. Most versions are still online and I find it is a good thing that players can see the development.
@Chandlero: I don't see the problem? If you upload a new version, something like "this refers to an earlier version" (similar to Amazon reviews, for example) could be added to the comments.
I think you misunderstood what my intention was: I simply wanted to add mid-level checkpoints or to change the title.
But yeah, I had to reupload some of my older courses because they were a bit too hard.
And I disagree, a level is not a fix publication, a level is similar to video games. They also receive patches and improvements.
And I don't think it's cheating either. It's quite the opposite: The already received comments and stars were meant for a poorer version of the level. So when you upload an improved version, there would be still comments relating to some outdated errors or whatever you imagine.
So far, none of my levels had such errors and none of the comments were relating to something negative.
And leaving the old versions online is not an option. Not only is it confusing to the people who see your levels (because there is no indication of the date or the version), it also unnecessarily takes up space. I mean, so far I have only uploaded 8 out of 20 possible levels, but I still like to keep it efficient, not waste any level slots.
Most versions are still online and I find it is a good thing that players can see the development.
How does that fit to the rest of your posting? In one sentence you say a level is a fix publication, in the other sentence you say it's something that develops. Which is it?
Anyway, if the players are supposed to see the development, Nintendo should let you reupload on the same level slot and then offer the players the possibility to also play all previous versions. That would be way more organized and less messy than having several versions of the same level on different slots online. It just looks terrible and if I would see that someone uploaded the same level over and over again, I would instantly hit 'B' and not try any of their levels at all. Because first they have to tidy up their level space, it looks amateurish.
The biggest problem in having to upload several versions of the game is also that they have different level codes. Every time I upload a new version, I have to edit my entries in the Nintendolife Mario Maker level database and on reddit. That's not a convenient way to do it. If you reupload, the level code should stay the same.
How does that fit to the rest of your posting? In one sentence you say a level is a fix publication, in the other sentence you say it's something that develops. Which is it?
Your update is simply a new publication but it uses the earlier version. Both are fixed it the same way.
I did get your intention and still have my opinion: I am glad there is no such thing like a easy update feature.
And I disagree, a level is not a fix publication, a level is similar to video games. They also receive patches and improvements.
I have never seen a video game that changed its title with an update. Old Mario games didn't get updates and even now each game gives a version number and let you choose if you want to update it.
@Chandlero: I don't mean to be rude, but that's just BS. If that were true, there would have to be different boxes in stores for every version of Mario Kart 8, Smash, Splatoon and... oh, Mario Maker. Ask any developer and they will tell you it's not a new publication. Or google what "update" means. "Update" and "new publication" don't go together (unless they're on a different platform).
My GOTY? Legend Of Zelda: Splat of the child. Ah no, I meant LoZ: Breath of the SPLATOOOON!
@shani: Yes, it is rude. I have a book that I sell. Each new edition acts as a new publication. Everybody has to cite the edition number when citing my book.
1. An advisement providing more up-to-date information than currently known.
He gave me an update on the situation in New York
2. A change in information, a modification of existing or known data.
I just made an update to the Wikipedia article on guerillas
3. An additional piece of information. An addition to existing information.
I just made an update to my blog about my trip to Rome
4. A modification of something to a more recent, up-to-date version; (in software) a minor upgrade.
Our database receives an update every morning at 3 AM
I have a couple of updates to install on your laptop
5. A version of something which is newer than other versions.
"You should try the update: it rocks."
#2 and #4 apply here. It's a modification of something that already exists, not a new publication.
My GOTY? Legend Of Zelda: Splat of the child. Ah no, I meant LoZ: Breath of the SPLATOOOON!
@Chandlero: That's just because books come from a time where updates weren't technically possible.
That's why they call it a "new edition", not an "update".
I was aware of books when I wrote this. Your comparison just doesn't apply.
If it weren't already an old convention, you could actually update e-books.
Anyway, I don't think it makes sense to discuss this any further because there's nothing left to say.
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