Xbox one got rid of the DRM. Xbox live is a fee, but they do give you numerous things free and lots of online servers and ways to communicate easily with friends and enemies during and after matches, etc. Very smooth UI, not these long load times like Wii U and 20 clicks to do simple things on Wii U. They aren't the best, but the NFL thing and TV stuff will easily outdo the Wii U attempt at making the console be a remote control for TV and that WiiTV thing.
PS4 has free to play online for any Free to Play games like Planet Side 2, DC Universe Online and all the rest coming out. Also PS4 has free online for MMORPGs like FFXIV(no additional fee).
PS4 gives you free games all the time for the $5 or less a month cost of PS Plus. I also expect their UI to be fast, no load times and they will have tons of games in genres Wii U just is lacking.
Wii U makes you pay for about 3-4+ controllers just to be able to use all its features. Wii games use the old wii pro controller, new games on VC use the new pro controller, then there is the WiiMote and nunchuk and balance board and that all adds up to more than the console already.
Wii U has the least games. The least genres of games also as they have pretty much nothing for sports, realistic racing, no RPGs, no MMORPGs, and many more.
Wii U does have great 1st party games, but it all depends on the individual. Some like platforming(Nintendos strength) and some like other stuff like FPS, Sports, Adventure, Open World, whatever.
You can't be mad that the system you choose is not the best. I mean if you are a true gamer, you would buy many platforms to play on and experience all the gaming world has to offer, not limit yourself and sit there defending the one thing you own like a child does.
@AlexSays
You don't have to like Wii U's capabilities. That the whole point in saying, that if you don't want to play games using the GamePad, just buy an Xbox One or PS4. If you don't like the direction Nintendo is taking with the Wii U, wouldn't it just be wiser to choose a different console?
Like I said, Nintendo won't compete head on with Xbox One and PS4 for obvious reasons. For example, if Wii U was similar soec wise to the other consoles, would we be choosing graphics over gameplay, paid online over free online, and which games do I want?
Graphics are great, but sometimes sacrificing graphics for something like the GamePad and free online are worth it. Not to mention multiplats are still possible anyway, and next gen, Nintendo will probably go power again, considering they see an opening for that position.
That obviously wasn't the case with Wii U.
Don't worry, OP! Just play the games you like and hopefully each of the "big three" will have a solid niche this generation. If all else fails, you could always join us as part of the PC Master Race, as well! Then, instead of getting upset with people making fun of Nintendo, you can actually scoff at all of them for missing the forest for the trees!
Hey, I'm already part of the PC master race! How else could I play Half-Life? ;D
Wii U makes you pay for about 3-4+ controllers just to be able to use all its features. Wii games use the old wii pro controller, new games on VC use the new pro controller, then there is the WiiMote and nunchuk and balance board and that all adds up to more than the console already.
How does that make it different from any other console? Every console you have to buy more controllers to "to use all it's features". Also, you don't buy the balance board just because. You buy that if you use Wii Fit, or any other game that uses it. I only have 1 Wii U Pro Controller and have tons of fun in 5-player games.
@GamerJunkie - While I agree with the general anti-fanboyism statement, not everyone can afford to buy every console, let alone one. Who are you to decide what a 'true gamer' is and how many platforms they need to own for that status? Also I assumed you focused on the bad points of the Wii U to prove a point, because otherwise I'd cite your argument as really hypocritical.
@AlexSays
You don't have to like Wii U's capabilities. That the whole point in saying, that if you don't want to play games using the GamePad, just buy an Xbox One or PS4. If you don't like the direction Nintendo is taking with the Wii U, wouldn't it just be wiser to choose a different console?
I plan on doing this. Regardless, I am perfectly capable of indicating which direction I believe they'd be best in. You certainly don't have a problem talking about consoles you don't intend to purchase.
Like I said, Nintendo won't compete head on with Xbox One and PS4 for obvious reasons. For example, if Wii U was similar soec wise to the other consoles, would we be choosing graphics over gameplay, paid online over free online, and which games do I want?
What? Why do you have to choose between graphics and gameplay, why can't you have both? Why does better hardware mean Nintendo would have to charge for online? And I don't even understand the last part about games.
If Nintendo has the amazing exclusives everyone claims they have, then the console should still stand out amongst its competitors on even ground. Your whole stance centers on Nintendo games not being good enough unless they have the novelty factor. This honestly sounds like an attempt to justify what Nintendo is doing, rather than realizing they could have done something just a little bit better.
Graphics are great, but sometimes sacrificing graphics for something like the GamePad and free online are worth it. Not to mention multiplats are still possible anyway, and next gen, Nintendo will probably go power again, considering they see an opening for that position.
That obviously wasn't the case with Wii U.
Why do you have to sacrifice anything? Again you're justifying their actions because you believe it is impossible to have both when there's no reasoning to support that.
And multiplats are possible? Yeah sure, multiplats from last gen. How many multiplats are lined up for the Wii U at the moment, besides from Ubisoft and maybe EA sports games? The great majority of developers are refusing to even consider the system, and at what cost? Having some games use the tablet for quirky little things? Because Nintendo fans feel they have to be unique and all of those award winning multiplats are just for the mainstream? C'mon now, Nintendo could innovate the way we play games while being more dev friendly whether you would like to believe so or not.
If there has been groundbreaking uses of the Wii U tablet, that make it totally worth it to only appeal to a very small minority of developers, please point me in that direction.
@AlexSays
You're not understanding, and we don't even know if next gen multiplats are possible on Wii U. Do you have proof that games like Destiny can't happen? You don't. You also won't have any proof until those games actually come out, or are close to their release dates.
The reason why you have to sacrifice graphics for the likes of the GamePad and free online, is because choosing both would bring about the same exact type of console Xbox One and PS4 are.
Wii U being different is it's biggest strength, regardless of graphic power.
It is more dev friendly, BTW. Indies have more ability of making an impact on Wii U than any other console. For now at least.
So multiplats can be developed for the Wii U just as easily and it is very dev friendly, despite almost all major developers claiming they won't consider the Wii U? And the Wii U cannot have stronger hardware, because it would be too similar to the other consoles?
Yes, you're right I do not understand that. You go ahead and think they're bringing Destiny to the Wii U though, and you continue thinking tons of third party support is magically coming to the console. Just don't hold your breath.
Hey look, and those are actual numbers. You should fit those into your arguments sometime.
It doesn't matter though. That survey, if to be believed, still doesn't give any indication that Wii U is weaker at all.
If it's easier to develop a game for any console besides Wii U, what does that REALLY tell you?
For all we know, 3rd parties will be able to port any PS4 game with no problems.
The difference is building a game from scratch, vs. a port on a said console.
The Wii U's architecture is different, but that doesn't necessarily mean weaker or stronger than anything.
The difference is also how you build the games. It's the same thing that happened PS3.
It was more powerful, but no one knew how to use it, so it didn't effect anything.
Hey look, and those are actual numbers. You should fit those into your arguments sometime.
It doesn't matter though. That survey, if to be believed, still doesn't give any indication that Wii U is weaker at all.
If it's easier to develop a game for any console besides Wii U, what does that REALLY tell you?
For all we know, 3rd parties will be able to port any PS4 game with no problems.
The difference is building a game from scratch, vs. a port on a said console.
The Wii U's architecture is different, but that doesn't necessarily mean weaker or stronger than anything.
The difference is also how you build the games. It's the same thing that happened PS3.
It was more powerful, but no one knew how to use it, so it didn't effect anything.
You're kidding me. We know the specs of the console. We factually know what the hardware is inside each console, and we know for a fact the Wii U is seriously weaker. Go look it up.
I provide a definitive source of devs saying the Wii U is hard to develop for, devs that have kits for the other consoles, and you just dismiss it like its nothing. Even this site has acknowledged the fact not enough third party devs want to make Wii U games. There's seemingly nothing anyone could tell you to make you see the light.
There's seemingly nothing anyone could tell you to make you see the light.
Pretty much.
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