Topic: Is this bad news for the Wii U?

No they don't.

You seem to be confusing Cloud services (iCloud, Google Docs) with streaming services (Netflix, Spotify).

Everyone has access to the same content on a streaming service.

But Waltz cloud, which has his own personal documents, photos, music, blah blah blah, can only be accessed by him. I can't access them, nor can he access mine.

Look at Skywake's video. Apple videos are informative. They should've called it 'Cloud for Dummies'.

f*ck the cloud
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The problem with the cloud system, is that probably would mean to a month fee.

No. I was just causing speculation in the least. There's tons of ways cloud could work. Their way of doing it isn't being resourceful... Oh well. If cloud shows up, so be it. If it doesn't, then no harm done.

If anything, they'll start adding more features once the facilities combine so they can walk to the 'west wing' instead of calling people over Wii U chat that might take advantage of both consoles together. I agree, there's alot more stuff you can do, but whether those features are useful, if at all can be a different thing. I don't really mess with media stuff that much, but please trust I know what I'm talking about. I'm not stupid/dumb/naive(in this case) about what cloud is, I just don't use it, and for good reason. Like I said, I've saved games to Xbox 360's cloud before. The servers weren't working, and cloud wouldn't let me access my game.

Regarding the first part, everyone who has a DS-family or Wii U product can experience dual screen functionality. All of my computing and telephony devices are from Apple - what functionality is a cloud-based device from Sony or Microsoft going to entice me with? Are they going to start developing games on iPad or Mac suddenly?

An answer to your final query, I think no one (in the Nintendo Life forums) expects anything else from them (Microsoft and Sony) because frankly that's all they've done with every other machine they've released when it comes to games. Kinect and Move were very late reactions to the equally late realisation that there's money to be had by catering to people who don't play Call of Duty. I seriously doubt a large percentage (i.e. a majority) of either user base owns these products, so why would I think either company has anything more interesting up their sleeve?

Probably a good portion of the 360 audience has a Kinect due to it being bundled by default now.

Also not sure why you can't see them having any interesting to show. A good game or idea is just that.

Because, as i said neither company has done more in the past than up the ante on graphics. There's no reason for me to expect innovation from them, whereas that's what Nintendo's reputation is built upon. I'm prepared to be surprised, but it's going to take more than using a tablet PC as a controller for me to take notice.

Seeing how everything in this thread is based on rumours and the usual fanhead excitement over not much at all then it would be safe to say never keep your hopes up about anything to do with the gaming industry until the actual proof is in the pudding... I don't see a list of must have games for PS720 at the moment either and will they be worth forking out $600 just to play games that I can already play on WiiU.

Well the thing about all new hardware is that it means nothing if there's no interesting software to support it. Maybe it's just me but I kinda feel like the Kinect is the new Balance Board or Plastic Guitar except maybe both at the same time. It gets boring really quickly, within a month, and then I fall back on the cool little indie games or latest AAA title... preferably one that's not the same as something I've already seen.

Yes because stuff like getting online and a digital store right on a console, having a console do more than games, stuff that Sony has been doing with its developers somehow aren't innovative anymore.

Also I find out odd you say that the Or is and Durangp won't be worth if you have a Wii U to play those games. The Wii U isn't even getting current gen games so I'm a not skeptical about them getting next gen ports.

The reason why WiiU isn't getting alot of the current gen games all boils down to the PS360 having a bigger user base so devs are gonna release on those first then maybe port later... I would say it's gonna be the opposite way around when PS720 releases devs will make games for WiiU in a topsy-turvy switcheroo as this will maximize profits for the long haul.

Well the other console come out this fall and right now it seems a lot of the third parties are going to be developing for the Durango/Or is.

Thinking the Wii U will be the lead console is just wishful thinking at this point.

Eh, I dunno. It's too early to say what will happen

...wut?

Call of Duty and Arkham City say "Hi"

Games that came pout a year ago. Where is the port of BioShock, tomb raider, fuse, dead or alive. There also games like killer is dead and Ninja Gaiden Z not even slated for the system.

Making a profit from millions of WiiU compared to only thousands of PS720 say hi

That really worked with the Wii didn't' it.

Also we don't how the adoption rate will be for Or is and Durango,

They might bomb for all you know. That's the point I made earlier about high hopes can turn to ultimate disappoint.

Nintendo is famously terrible at supporting the western developers, and platform holder support is crucial for getting the third parties on board.

If Nintendo supported Activision and EA as it supports Tecmo Koei, I would give it a fair chance to being the lead console for the AAA-franchises after PS4 and Xbox 720 launches. As it stands though? No. Sony and Microsoft are not going to make it easy to draw the western third party support.