Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@ThanosReXXX oh yeah, I wasn't even thinking of 4k video, and it is a 1x enhanced game, so it likely is. I wonder ifwhat the file size is for the one s version. It may be the same size though since that can play 4k video as well.

@NEStalgia Could also be that it detects where it downloads to, and as such, will only download 4K assets to the X, but for video, it could indeed also be that the S gets the exact same bundle.

@ThanosReXXX I finally tested out the Need for Speed trilogy to compare against the others. I didn't re-try Rivals since I played that at PS4 launch (I got a free game with my preorders from amazon and there was nothing of quality at launch so I picked that since I had fun with Most Wanted on WiiU.....but it was only so-so at best.) I haven't played much of each NFS (reboot) and NFS Payback, but I found what I saw interesting. I started with Payback, the one I was most interested in last E3 when the saw it, and I have to say that what I liked about it when I saw it, is probably exactly what you don't like about it in terms of the handling. The thing is it's not really a racing game at all. It's an action-combat game complete with boss battles, disguised as a racer under the NFS brand. NFS has always been defined by the police chases, and Payback takes it to a new level that you're not just racing but trying to destroy cop cars (complete with health gauges and armor!) and the occasional boss (with health gauge.) It's actually really cool in that it only looks like a racer and has some racer attributes but at it's core is just an action game with cars. It's experimental, different, and that surprises me from EA But I can see why it got a tepid reception....nobody buying an NFS game is looking for a combat-action game But that's also why it handles strangely...it's arcade in the truest sense of arcade.

Need for Speed (reboot) is comparatively a traditional NFS arcade racer, and is much more sim-like in handling. I love how both have such different worlds....Payback is this big open desert set built for big stuntwork and high speeds, while NFS is the more traditional tight urbanscape, mostly at night, emphasis on lights and neon glow in the rain, etc, etc. But playing NFS....I know the point was to tie it in with the movie, but dat FMV......I couldn't help feel like a part of Westwood was still alive inside EA desperate to get out

Both of them are better than The Crew 2. Both have better world/experience/story/character building than any other racer, neither handle as well as Forza, though NFS (reboot) probably comes close....if you can take the cheesy first person FMV. May Wing Commander and real C&C never die.

Also gave Wildlands a test run. It's surprisingly Rainbow 6 in a world where real R6 is now just an online team shooter. That was somewhat heartening.

@NEStalgia Well, you're doing the assumption thing again...
As my sales & marketing mentor always said: assumptions are deadly.

In your eyes, this will probably be me throwing you a curve ball, but I actually LOVE the NFS series. Not the bloated experience that is the latest game, but I actually own, and played the heck out of, several of the games starting with the reboot of NFS Hot Pursuit. Got most of them on Xbox 360, and the reboot of Most Wanted on the Wii U.

And I always loved the combat parts, taking out competitors and police cars. And drifting, drifting, drifting for the win. Pure arcade joy...

And the driving in those games is nowhere near as floaty and un-car-like as in The Crew...

@NEStalgia man if there is one series where I consider myself an expert in its NFS, I've played every console game in the series since the beginning. The run they had with HP 2, Underground 1/2 and Most Wanted will probably never be topped. I do think HP 2010 was the best modern game they've made. Since then they've ranged from horrible (the run) to a bit above average (payback). Hopefully whatever is next is a return to form.

In other racing news been playing Crew 2 all day and having a blast with it! Certainly not without those) flaws but fun to muck around with friends thus far.

@DarthNocturnal picked that up a couple weeks ago when it was on sale, looking forward to trying it. If you've played the Division, how would you compare it to that?

@DarthNocturnal I played probably 80% of Division solo but same thing teaming up with actual people makes it shine. Even Destiny 1 spent probably the same playing solo. No AI though in Division though, Wildlands always seemed like a Division " 1.5" in a way to me. Will probably dig into a bit this weekend.

@DarthNocturnal same, only did one raid in D1 haven't even touched it in D2. The lack of matchmaking is a bone headed move imo. I understand their logic but having to go to a separate website, coordinate with 5 randoms is just a hassle. Division has matchmaking everywhere if you choose to but like I said most content can be done solo.

@ThanosReXXX I thought you said you didn't like the physics of NFS Payback the other day and compared it similarly with The Crew? Or am I confusing you with someone else? NFS Payback doesn't control like other NFS games, so it makes sense, but it's partly because it's really not an NFS game but a car combat game Man it does abuse the need for the handbrake though

@redd214 Rivals I was unimpressed with. Ghost really doesn't hold up to Criterion....even as a series novice I can tell. Payback and NFS(reboot) seem decent so far, but yeah there was something about Most Wanted. Maybe because it was more like Horizon.

@DarthNocturnal @redd214 The Division (haven't tried it yet, might give it a spin tonight) is technically an RPG. It has the MMO thing in the post-game, but should have a good solo campaign, but it's grindier as an RPG. Wildlands is more "open world Rainbow Six since they're never going to make a real open world Rainbow Six" more than anything. Not as tactical....but it has the right feel of slow progression, weighing your entry point, etc. Emphasis on recon to know what you're getting into, etc.

@NEStalgia I was talking more about the original most wanted not the recent one, found that one to be about average got it for free though because of an Amazon goof so can't complain. I thought rivals was decent as well got it on both Ps3 and 4. Had absolutely no replay value after getting the platinum though, which was a bummer. I do agree Criterion really had that special sauce. Hopefully the games just announced by those folks end up good though

@NEStalgia Yup, definitely confusing me with someone else. I wouldn't even be able to compare the physics, since I don't own Payback...
@redd214 The original Most Wanted? That's an oldie. GameCube/PS2/OG Xbox era. Still a good game, though...

@ThanosReXXX ah that explains it. I wonder who it was!

@ThanosReXXX yeah man, it was a classic. I rebought it on the PS3 years ago. Looked like crap on an HDtv but gameplay was still solid!

Finally got the Master Chief Collection.

So can someone explain how they came out with this exactly? Were Halo 1 and 2 remastered entirely and then Halo 3 and 4 just got high res ports?
Cos I noticed that Halo 1 looked about equally as good as Halo 3.

Halo 1 was remastered even on the Xbox 360, I have it sitting on my shelf.

@CanisWolfred

I realised that. Is it that exact same version? And what did they do to the other 3 games?

@NEStalgia Well, you could always browse through the last two or three previous pages (can't be much more than that, I think), if you really want to find out who it was.

@redd214 I still have the GameCube version. Installed it on my modded Wii. Looked just fine to me, but I think it also depends on the cables, and/or the screen. Mine's a plasma screen, and one of the older generation HD TV's, which still has a rather big bezel. (Panasonic Viera 42")
No idea how it's gonna look on a LED or QLED TV.

That most certainly is always something I do take into account, when buying a TV, though: what kind of inputs does it have, and does it have some kind of game mode, or at least a generous offering of options to adjust the image myself.

For the campaigns Halo 2 anniversary was created specifically for MCC meanwhile the other games (Halo 1 anniversary, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo 4) are the 360 versions. There isn't ODST Firefight or Reach though those may be added in the future. Note that Halo 3 ODST is DLC though it's a rather cheap price.

As for multiplayer all the games have their original multiplayer (they didn't go the Reach multiplayer approach for Halo 1 anniversary this time) and some Halo 2 maps were given the Halo 2 anniversary treatment though with the voting system you'll mostly be playing Halo 3 maps. Lots of fixes and general improvements will be inbound for the first update which may happen later this summer (no date set as 343 are not rushing this, it gets released when its ready).

Are there any Halo or Gears games on PC? I'm gobbling up as many classics to play on the new handheld GPD Win 2 as possible. And then I saw that only Halo Wars was on STEAM, nothing else.

These games arent even on Windows Store via Play Anywhere? I hate to use Windows store but, if it means handheld Xbox One games, I'm on it.

And I hear you have to be online to play Windows store games? Or did I hear wrong

@JaxonH halo 1 and halo 2 had pc ports, but I'm not sure any others were ever ported. Halo 1 on PC was basically the anniversary edition. Back then we're talking pre stream, it at least pre popular steam. Games came in discs in very large boxes still (still have my halo 1 but never bought 2.)

@JaxonH Digitally there's Gears 4, Halo Wars, Halo Wars 2, Halo Spartan Assault and a Custom Games only version of Halo 5 so far with Gears 5 and Halo Infinite confirmed for the future. Though 343 is aware many want Master Chief Collection on PC so maybe that'll happen some time after the XB1 version is fully fixed.