Topic: What would've happened without Nintendo?

Except the Master System would of had a legitimate shot without Nintendo's shady business practices of that time. You know Sega did put out hardware before the NES?

No Nntendo = huge difference that can't be quantified. But the US market needed something. NES simply came in at the right place at the right time. A vacuum would be filled quickly enough, but I'd bet on arcades going forward first.

But without Nintendo reviving the console market then the master system would have flopped at least in the US. It might have had a chance in japan or other places.

But the cause and effect nature of the market simply means Microsoft would have never invested in the technologies to make a separate gaming system. Why have people buy a system entirely for gaming when you can sell a computer that can play games with a bevy of other features justifying whatever outlandish price they'd tack on it?

If Nintendo hadn't brought Sony into the gaming fold, Microsoft wouldn't have felt the need to bring out the Xbox at all.

I'm not saying technology wouldn't have progressed without Nintendo because that's just silly. I'm just saying certain technologies wouldn't exist at all were it not for Nintendo's influence on the market. The Genesis wouldn't exist because Sega made it to say, "Look! We have more bits than that Nintendo! Buy our product instead because it's better!" If Nintendo hadn't come around with the NES, why upgrade the Master System unnecessarily? They could make new games since, unlike older consoles, the games weren' built into the machine. There'd be no point. Computers weren't upgraded until they'd reached the capacity of the hardware. Competition speeds the process along.

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Alex Kidd wouldn't do much to make Sega money and Sony nor Microsoft wouldn't go into gaming because SEGA pretty much has made stuff that Sony and Microsoft already did. Microsoft would buy SEGA and the world of gaming wouldn't be very influential like how Nintendo did.

Tell me SEGA's franchises that have made an influence to the gaming and SEGA never would have made the rumble pak feature.

he donated 7.5 billion for a cancer treatment in Kyoto. sheesh man.......

One thing's for sure...Gunpei Yokoi would still be alive because Nintendo wouldn't be around to assassinate him for failing with the Virtual Boy.

Who says it would have flopped perhaps if Nintendo didn't revive the console market in the US maybe Sega would have.

The point is we dont know what would have happend and to say that the industry wouldn't be without Nintendo is just fanboy talk. I mean can you honesty look at the bigger picture and say that because of Nintendo video games wouldn't exist? There were a dozen brilliant minds working on the same kind of stuff that Nintendo does. As I said before it just probably would have taken longer.

That is like saying if the Wright Brothers didn't fly at Kittyhawk we wouldn't have airplanes now.

Is this one of those "Nintendo did all this/saved gaming so we should be blind nintendo fanboys" kinda discussion?

If they had never entered into the market chances are gaming would be different. Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be in the market since Sony only entered the market since Nintendo kinda "back stabbed" them, and Microsoft only entered the market because they wanted to compete with Sony. Sega might have taken longer to enter the console market in the west(or might not have entered at all), since the only reason why they released the Master System in the west was because of the revived console market in the US. If they did then a lot of their popular franchises wouldn't exist (Sonic was Sega's answer to Mario). In fact a lot of popular franchises wouldn't exist. The handheld market would be completely different, or wouldn't exist. Also controllers would probably be very different since Nintendo was the one who standardized the 4 face buttons, analog sticks, d-pads, shoulder buttons and rumble(though I believe that was a third party add on), even motion controls(like them or not everyone is using them now a days). It would be a very different gaming world.

Nobody's bodies would possibly be ready. But in all seriousness, Nitnendo's past is what makes them important. Without their presence in the 80s and 90s, there would probably be no home consoles and the only games would be on your computer (That would be awful I don't care what pc master race says).Their present and questionably their future isn't what makes them important or even culturally relevant. I mean, even the South Park game of thrones didn't even mention the wii u in a single punchline.

Glad to see you get it.

Let's take a minute here

the video game crash occurred so games weren't much in US but were popular in Europe and all so then why was it that those games were only there in those countries and not in US as well? If you're saying that there were a lot of brilliant people without Nintendo and who would've done what Nintendo did, then why did it took them so long to do so? Also these devs didn't make games as influential as Nintendo did nor were they as revolutionary as Nintendo. Pong was a game that's outdated but was never brought back unlike tetris and even if it was, no one will even bother playing that stuff like Tetris.

Speaking of Tetris, if it wasn't for Nintendo, the handheld gaming wouldn't exist, Smartphones wouldn't have touchscreen games and overall, we would still be doing engineering if we ever want to make games.

I know this may sound like fanboy talk but to say that Nintendo's thing was so simple that someone else would've done it is just plain wrong.

Nintendo didn't kill him at all! Infact they never fired him. He just left the company for whatever reasons and tried to make the wonderswan to compete with the system but failed to do so and while he was in the car, an accident occurred.

@mamp: Yes it sadly is.

@RancidVomit86: Oh I got it a long time ago. The problem I had was explaining to those that don't get it.

@Artwark: How is it wrong when it is the truth? Looking back at it what Nintendo did was simple and someone else would have done it. As I said before if Wilbur and Orville Wright didn't fly at Kittyhawk does did that mean no one else would have? If the US didn't land on the Moon would no one have?

@Tasuki So now you're saying that the great minds who did it aren't impressive because someone else could do it? You're saying Beethoven's music can be easily composed by someone else? You're saying that John Dunlop's tires would have easily been thought of by someone else? If that is true then who do you think would have made games very revolutionary like Nintendo easily? SEGA? EA? SONY?

This just simply proves to the point that people aren't respecting the great minds already like you for example. What Nintendo did to you wasn't impressive, what Wilbur and Olive did wasn't impressive and it goes on and on.

I am not saying that it wasn't impressive what I am saying is it's foolish to think that they are the only ones that could have done it. What they were doing others were doing it and even thinking of it. If you didn't have Nintendo you had Sega, if you didn't have Beethoven you have Mozart if you didn't have John Dunlop you have Goodyear. Its not that I don't respect them for their accomplishments but to say that stuff like tires or video games or classical musical wouldn't have existed because of them is just being naive.

An interesting point you bring up. Fantastic argument actually. I guess that means you've heard of the Space Race? Between the Soviet Union and the US for space exploration? Guess what? Fuelled by competition. If neither side was constantly pushing, no one is saying nobody would have landed on the moon, but the history around space exploration would be vastly different without that "small step for man."

@Tatsuki
Of course they aren't the only ones. The companies you're bringing up though formed their gaming areas around the groundwork laid by Nintendo and not realizing how different gaming would be if another company picked it up at a different time is awfully narrow-minded of you.