@ReaderRagfish Not prohibitive no, but not cheap. In the UK getting harder to find copies but not impossible. My point was really for such a little known game, it's now more expensive to get a copy than when it was first released. That usually only happens when there's a decent cult fanbase, which of course Klonoa has, and Fragile Dreams hasn't ... yet. It'll be interesting to see if it spreads out from it's current very niche fanbase what with it's TOTAL dependency on the Wii's motion controls. Oh, and Klonoa is more than double the US price in the UK.
As a dude born in the 70's, I don't need to be a " retro game expert " ! LMAO
You know, you can say that Iron Commando is a fantastic game, I don't have any problem with that but I'm sorry it's not what I think. Is it bad to have different point of view ?
What I don't like with Iron Commando is the inconsistency of the visual of the different stages, sometimes it's beautiful(normal stages), sometimes it's almost "amateur"(bonus stages).
The difficulty curve is ridiculous, the damage aren't well balanced at all.
The snakes in the game are programmed with the bum, even a beginner in programming wouldn't make that kind of mistake.
When Jack and Chang Li have to use the shotgun, the time between two shots is way too long. Meaning that if an enemy is too close of them, you're not able to use the shotgun anymore...
The "super attack" has the effeciency of a fart under water.
The bonus stages break totally the flow of the action.
So, as a developer myself I can easily say that this game is made with the heart but there are too much flaws in the structure and in the programming to consider it as a "good game".
Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game either just an overated game because only available in Japan (ironic for a French game).
The "retro game expert", specialist of the " look at my shelves I have expensive games " are not always the one who really analyze games and judge them for what they are.
There's some great recommendations in this thread, definitely some stuff I'll have to check out!
I recently played Siesta Fiesta on 3DS and I was surprised by how well-made it was. It's a Breakout-style game (i.e. use a paddle to bounce a ball around and destroy the blocks on the screen) but rather than just having to break every block on a static screen, most levels are sidescrolling and require you to break as many blocks as you can before you reach the end of the level, without dropping the ball. It's simple but there are a lot of different mechanics introduced throughout the game, including cannons to shoot the ball out of, a level where you have to keep a fuse lit to ignite an explosion at the end, and even boss battles against pinatas. The game is short but that's ok because it's so cheap, and it would take a while to get enough points for a gold medal on every level. The jolly soundtrack and the colourful backgrounds, which are surprisingly detailed for this kind of game, make it really uplifting and it's just a very fun game in general.
@Cobalt I'm not quite sure if you're trying to insult @Shiryu or not, but he REALLY knows his stuff, so I really hope I misinterpreted you there.
As for the rest of your comment: this thread is about people giving their game recommendations to the OP,
it's not about slamming other people's taste or choices. Don't agree? That's perfectly fine, but let's not turn it into a useless debate, because no matter what you say, I'll stick to my own opinion anyway, seeing as it is MY recommendation, so I don't need people criticizing that.
This game is in my all time top 10 of side-scrolling beat em ups, and nothing that anyone says can change that. Is it perfect? No it isn't, but it doesn't matter, and that isn't the point either.
And yeah, the difficulty is through the roof sometimes, but that is actually what keeps it interesting for me, regardless of some of its flaws. Other side-scrolling beat em ups can be completed in a single run, and this one is a bit of a grinder, but I like it regardless of all that, and I can quite easily recommend it to fans of the genre as well.
Actually, perhaps you being a developer, might even be to your disadvantage, because if I read your comment,
it seems like you're putting things under the microscope WAY too much. Games are meant to be played, not analyzed to death.
We can even find flaws in the best of games, so that's really no surprise at all.
Oh, and no offense: I'm not exactly sure if it's because you're not a native English speaker or not, but best leave out the capital letter "LMAO" mentions from your comments. It comes across as rather juvenile and/or haughty, so it's not really fitting your age, if you're truly from the 70's...
And FYI: I'm 48 years old myself, so you don't have anything on me there, either.
Also I really don't have time to read on what you're both so fired about, the game is the typical "European take on Japanese genre" that back in the day we would surely love to had the chance to pick up for our personal collections. Legend might not be the best game of it's type, but heck did I care back then when I managed to buy it for half price of a regular new game and sped with friends replaying it over and over? The same thing would have happened with Iron commando if it was up for rental or sale at local stores.
So calm down! You're giving the kids on the site a bad example to follow. -_-;
@Shiryu Oh, I'm calm alright. Just a bit annoyed that my personal recommendation is being criticized as if it matters...
And what you just said was EXACTLY my point. It's just a nice game, regardless of its flaws, and I still have fun playing it today, and that's why I put it up here.
P.S.
We didn't put up THAT much text: it's only three comments, starting from #29, so kinda disappointed there, that you find that too much to read through, my friend.
(for the record: only semi-serious here)
And it was even in defense of you, no less...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@Shiryu Yeah, I've actually seen that in the news. Seems to be a more common thing all over the world, unfortunately, and I really feel for the people who are in the middle of it, or who have lost possessions or loved ones because of it.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
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