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Anti-Matter

Yay...
I'm still playing Yokai Watch 3 Tempura until today. Have accumulated 163+ hours.

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3. DrumMania
4. Beatmania IIDX
5. Pop'n Music
6. KeyboardMania
7. Martial Beat
8. DANCE EVOLUTION

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Pizzamorg

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VoidofLight wrote:

@Pizzamorg Yeah, the combat isn't for everyone. Also, by monetization, what do you mean? Isn't the game pretty much singleplayer only?

Am I allowed to post external links here? If so: https://culturedvultures.com/tales-of-arise-microtransactions...

Pay to win in single player games is just rancid.

So it turns out, even the DLC costumes in Arise are kinda yucky: https://t.co/pfZF7nJ9zf?amp=1

This really has some of the most rancid monetisation I think I've seen in a game in a long time.

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VoidofLight

@Pizzamorg The way I see them, is that they're akin to titles in Berseria, but due to being cosmetic, they're selling them like the costume DLC in the other games.. this time with added perks.

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Pizzamorg

Yeah, I sort of went down a rabbit hole with this and learnt the series has done similar monetisation for their past games. Funny how no one is really talking about this, weird how people pick and choose their battles. If it is EA or Ubisoft, rarar but apparently if it is a Tales game, we just whistle and look away.

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Anti-Matter

Pay 2 Win has been introduced from FF X.
You paid the Yojimbo for hoping he will use Zanmato for instant kill to every foes including Boss if you're lucky and have getting along well with him.

Top 8 Konami's Rhythm games:
1. Dance Dance Revolution
2. Para Para Paradise
3. DrumMania
4. Beatmania IIDX
5. Pop'n Music
6. KeyboardMania
7. Martial Beat
8. DANCE EVOLUTION

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VoidofLight

@Anti-Matter But.. that's not pay to win, since that's not DLC. Pay to Win is when you have to actually use real-world money to pay for DLC that makes the game a better experience. It's usually seen in Multiplayer titles, but occasionally it worms it's way into singleplayer games.

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Anti-Matter

@VoidofLight
I knew Pay 2 Win in FF X was a different case since it used currency in game (not real money) but still you need to pay your Yojimbo if you want an instant KO to all foes (by some luck).

Top 8 Konami's Rhythm games:
1. Dance Dance Revolution
2. Para Para Paradise
3. DrumMania
4. Beatmania IIDX
5. Pop'n Music
6. KeyboardMania
7. Martial Beat
8. DANCE EVOLUTION

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Pizzamorg

VoidofLight wrote:

@Anti-Matter But.. that's not pay to win, since that's not DLC. Pay to Win is when you have to actually use real-world money to pay for DLC that makes the game a better experience. It's usually seen in Multiplayer titles, but occasionally it worms it's way into singleplayer games.

And the wider concern is always that while they may say the boosters are just for those who don't have as much free time and wont affect your experience, I think we all know this is BS at this point, right? They want to sell as many of these MTXs as they can, so they will make their game as oppressive and grindy as they can, to push you towards picking up some boosters.

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VoidofLight

@Pizzamorg To be honest, I can't speak for Arise, but Berseria isn't really that bad in terms of grinding.

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RR529

Just finished the little "tutorial" dungeon in Arise. First impressions:

  • Playing on Normal. It does seem a bit tough at the get go (there are these armadillo enemies which I believe can KO you in two hits if you're not careful), but the combat is starting to click and I'm not quite getting myself into as many sticky situations. I'll never understand why they thought mapping dodging to clicking the left stick (+ R2) was a good idea though. I'm getting used to it, but clicking sticks like buttons in action scenarios will always feel a bit clunky to me. Also, basic attacks are mapped to R1, which may feel odd to some (after God of War 2018 & Astral Chain I'm used to the idea of using shoulder buttons for melee attacks, but it still feels a bit different to what I'd expect.
  • It does look great too, even though there can be quite a bit of environmental pop in. Honestly that didn't bother me as much as how washed out it could look (especially in the distance), however that seemed to be a brightness issue & turning the brightness down a bit has made the colors pop a bit more. Otherwise I've been managing a smooth looking 60 fps at max settings. Loving the character design at the moment though I'm waiting for the MC to lose the mask, lol.

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TheJGG

That Korean game; Project EVE, looks absolutely incredible. It's not a Japanese game obviously but it really reminds me of some other JRPGs I've enjoyed in the past. Music sounds absolutely killer, the combat smooth too, with some really flashy special effects (sparks and whatnot). Plus the main character looks nice.

Barring major catastrophe, I'm keeping my eyes open for sure. Steampunk HZD mixed with NieR:Automata sounds like a very appealing idea to me.

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VoidofLight

@TheJGG When they announced it, I believed it was Nier 3 first, until the title and the studio making it.

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RR529

Are the Sword Art Online games any good? I see they're all on sale for the next couple days on Steam (most under $10) and was wondering if any of them were worth picking up (I liked what I've seen of the anime).

Even if I do buy one it'll probably be awhile before I get to it since I'm deep into Tales of Arise, though.

Currently Playing:
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Magician

@Kid_Buu

With SMT V wrapping up I can only assume it'll be the announcement of Persona 6.

To be released in 2025 most likely.

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VoidofLight

@Magician Could be a new ip, or the game that the director of persona 3-5 is working on.

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BrazillianCara

It could also be the new Etrian Odyssey project they've mentioned before.

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Ralizah

Not sure if it's their next announcement (we're long overdue another Persona fighting game, tbh), but I'm fully expecting a Persona 3 remaster/remake announcement sooner than later.

@BrazillianCara I'd be surprised. SMT V is a big release. I think it has been all hands on deck for that at Atlus R&D1, and the Etrian Odyssey series director has been directing SMT V as well.

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BrazillianCara

So I was worried for second after hearing it'll be a smartphone game, but then got relieved after learning Atlus isn't involved. So at least it's not EO (or SMT, guess).
I don't have a personal stigma towards mobile games like a lot of people do, but there's always a chance that something I'm interested in will arbitrarily not be compatible with my phone (like Pokémon Masters). And I'd rather be able to play these games on a console, anyway.

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VoidofLight

Finished Berseria the other day. It was a pretty good game, but I don't think it'll reach the top of my list. The story wasn't bad, but I didn't really feel much towards it, except for a few moments. The ending was alright, but I'm not a big fan of how the game world was designed. There's a limited number of areas which you just go back and forth between, and the music rarely changes from the overworld theme. There's fast-travel, but it costs resources, so most of your travel is on foot. There's a thing called a geoboard you unlock later, which just functions as a run button effectively, and the areas are so big that it even renders that slow as hell.

The characters are pretty great though. I like the main protagonist a lot, and most of them are pretty interesting all things considered. The only one I didn't really care much for was Laphicet, given that he had nothing interesting going on about him until the very end of the game. For a while in the story though, it genuinely feels like nothing is going on, and you're mostly randomly going back and forth for little to no reason while pursuing the end goal.

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RR529

Recently completed what I assume is the halfway point in Tales of Arise. Man that boss fight with Vohlran was absolutely epic.

Also bought Ys: Memories of Celceta in the Steam weekend sale. Going to be going into the dry spell pile.

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