Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Grumblevolcano I get that, but that would mean that I'd had to get over 1,000 Plat coins 12 months ago in one day, I'm assuming, for that amount to just suddenly vanish like that.

@EaglyTheKawaiiShika No worries lol. I'll get them back in no time. It's fairly easier now, since they've got the weekly plat coin rewards with the subscription. I haven't so much been saving them itself, as I've been waiting for other worthwhile things in the Nintendo Rewards list with the keychains, posters, Mario ornament, etc.

@JaxonH A recently released patch apparently improves performance somewhat, but I'm still noticing plenty of slowdown. Maybe the widespread attention being paid to this issue will cause Nintendo to keep some level of pressure on them in this regard.

I'm not too worried about it either way, tbh. Playing it digitally from my internal memory in undocked mode, I can say that the game, for me, is enjoyable as is. Most Switch games with "performance issues" are, I've found.

Personally, if I could only choose to improve one aspect of this game, I'd keep the performance as in and add in voice acting for the cutscenes. There's some emotional cutscenes that would have been much more impactful with voices instead of eerie silence.

Since I’m seeing people asking for things on here, I’m gonna throw a curveball and say when are we going to start seeing 3D sprite based arcade games released? Arcade Archives is good and Capcom are doing a fairly decent job releasing their arcade catalogue but there’s lots of cool 3D sprite games from the 80s and 90s I’d love to see. Okay, that’s my drunken rant over. Carry on as before.

I do wish devs other than Capcom would open the 90’s, 00,s vault on fighting games. I would love to play a soul calibur on switch or virtua fighter. I keep hoping the sega ages will include VF.

@FragRed Geoff Keighly said TGA this year or this year is gonna be amazing,i don't fall for that, TGA just show a bunch of generic AAA games.

@EaglyTheKawaiiShika i watch TGA since it beginning, for lastest editions it full of boring games and is dragged on, also i need to cover the event if is boring(for my YouTube Channel).

@JaxonH
Sarcasm or not I think the gaming landscape will end up with two forms of devices in the mainstream. Portable consoles you can dock like the Switch and Steam Deck and standalone VR headsets like the Quest. I think the latter is Valve's next big move and the former is probably a space that Microsoft dips its toes into. No idea where Sony lands, probably stubbornly sticking to the same thing long after the ship has sailed as they usually do

I think the "traditional" home console eventually just becomes a budget option. We're seeing the gap close between portables and home consoles on both price and perceived performance. Portables are increasingly "good enough" and home consoles don't push the spec anywhere near as hard as they used to. But portables have a screen, battery and thermal constraints. Eventually they'll become the premium product

But even in that space desktop PCs still have a reason to exist. There will always be a demand for more and more number crunching power in commercial spaces. They'll continue to convince people with more money than sense to buy into that for gaming. And people such as myself who need a PC or just generally like having a more open platform like a PC? We'll continue to go "oh and lets also throw a decent GPU into it"

VR is an entirely different product, it'll continue to exist. It can't be consumed by the push of this portable/hybrid form because a VR headset is by its nature too bulky to be also a handheld. I think in terms of hardware form factor it overtakes the home console eventually but I don't think it becomes anywhere near being the dominant form

Oh and mobile games, mobile games won't change I don't think

@NeonPizza
I think we're derailing the thread a bit but skimming over your post. A few things. Firstly VR does not and will never replace the home console, portable or PC "forms" of gaming. It can't replicate the local multiplayer experience of Mario Kart/Smash and it will never be as good as the "cinema" experience you can get from a console connected to a decent screen + surround. You're not taking VR on the bus, plane or to a park and so on. Also it's not going to replace the things PCs are good at like competitive shooters and strategy games

But I can definitely see a future hybrid console taking over all those use cases

On the other side of the equation? VR is most definitely a unique experience and something that can't really be replicated without a dedicated VR headset. You can't just drop a tablet screen into a caddy with lenses and call it a day, that relationship between the screen and the lenses is kinda important. Also the resolution and refresh rate requirements for VR are absurd when compared to a portable. And that's before you get into the games needing to be entirely different and the controllers needing to be entirely different

I think we eventually get to the point where portables cannibalise most of the market. But I don't think they'll be able to really compete with proper VR for VR. And similarly I think VR is an important niche that will become a larger part of gaming as it continues to mature. But I don't think it comes even remotely close to replacing any of the traditional gaming forms, which is why it will remain a niche

@NeonPizza
I'll just make this simple point. Even if VR gets to the point where it's becomes like putting on a pair of large sunglasses. And even if (I'd argue when) mobile hardware advances to the point where it's all rendered on device. Basically we're talking end-game VR. Even at that point.... I don't want to close off all my senses on the bus firing up a bit of Smash, I don't really want to replace a full home theatre surround setup with a set of headphones and I don't really want to strap a joycon to the sides of a pair of sunglasses

VR has a place, is novel and will become a larger part of the gaming landscape. But it will always be a niche product. VR is like the Tablet PC of gaming in that sense. For the specific use cases where it works? It works. But for most other things there are other devices that do the task better. With tablet PCs that's Laptops on one side and smartphones on the other. For VR it's 5-10" portable screens at one end and large TVs with proper surround setups at the other. That's just how it is

.... and don't pretend I'm dismissing VR here, I'm not. I've probably put more hours into games on my Quest 2 than I have on any other gaming device this year

@EaglyTheKawaiiShika yeah, let hope TGA 2022 have good anouncement this time, @,Skywake and @Neonpizza, the future of the game industry will be between hybrid consoles such as Nintendo Switch/SteamDeck and VR/AR, most like consoles with the hybrid concept of Nintendo Switch,since VR/AR is still expensive and limited to a specific public,hybrid consoles all gamers can enjoy it, tradicional home console gamers or gamers that love to play more handheld consoles, Nintendo Switch was a stroke of genius for Nintendo/game industry in general, after Nintendo Switch, i can't return to a tradicional home console, is very convinent be able to play console like games like Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild or Bayonetta 3 in the confort of your living room/bedroom or take your Nintendo Switch to play your games in your country house/beach house, Switch allow us gamers a liberty to choose a way how to play your games(we no longer have to play your games on TV only,you can can play your games whenever you like, that the liberty i love on Switch and i hope Nintendo continue with this path).

@Giancarlothomaz I know I was saying it tongue in cheek when posting it. He’s now said it’s gonna be a shorter show which suggests either less on the floor award’s being announced or they couldn’t attract enough adverts of games or whatever as before. Either way I expect little of anything worthwhile to come from it

@FragRed I saw it being reported on that the Game Awards this year is significantly shorter with fewer major game announcements. Probably a case that many new announcements by Microsoft or Sony could be used as fuel against their respective arguments regarding the Activision acquisition so I'd imagine the reveals from both will be:

Microsoft

• Game Pass ads
• Goldeneye shadow drop
• Maybe a Redfall trailer

Sony

• FFXVI info
• Show ends with Death Stranding 2 given the connection between Geoff and Kojima
• PSVR2 ads
• PC ports of existing games

@Grumblevolcano Oh yeah I never thought about that, but that whole thing between the two companies really is going crazy. That’s a reasonable list to what we can expect from both sides. And the rest will be filled with mobile games, whatever Ubisoft are going to crap out and just generic games in general.

@FragRed i think the reason we gonna see might fewer anouncement at TGA, is because Microsoft is currently under market regulation to aprove it buyout of Activision Blizzard, anything they anounce or Sony could be used to as a fuel to aprove or decline the buyout of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft, i saw at VGC that the Federal Trade Commision(FTC) will likely file a lawsuit to block Microsoft buyout of Activision Blizzard and they will go to the court if necessary to apeal agaist FTC decision.

@Giancarlothomaz Yeah, @Grumblevolcano said the same thing. I forgot that drama was still going on. It’s kinda become noise to me now. I fully expect what is shown to be generic mobile games, some crap by Ubisoft etc. Nintendo definitely won’t show up unless so it’ll be a pointless show to many.

"It's like a 2 in 1 console"

Actually, it's like a 3 in 1 console. People always forget the tabletop mode, but I use it all the time, and it's a distinctly different experience than either handheld mode or docked.

Being able to take a handheld, prop it up on an infinitely adjustable kickstand, detach controllers from the side and play it as if it's a tiny portable home console wherever you go... that's the cherry on top. That's what really makes Switch special to me. Handheld and docked is great, and I use both all the time, but that 3rd mode of play really elevates it to become something more.

Yeah rumors suggest that we'll get Street Fighter 6, FFXVI, Diablo IV, and Star Wars Jedi Survivor news there, plus I believe Tekken 8 was already announced to be there. Just those games plus something from Kojima and a Goldeneye shadow drop would make it the most interesting show in years hilariously enough.

@Grumblevolcano That whole ordeal makes me really curious to see what happens to Microsoft's 1st party lineup for next year. As it stands they have Forza, Minecraft Legends, Redfall, and Starfield, plus Xbox releases of AoE II:DE, AoE IV, and Ghostwire Tokyo lined up.

That's their best lineup in a long time, but I could see it hurting their arguments regarding the Activision acquisition. I can see them delaying some of those in order to spread the lineup out as thinly as possible. Starfield to 2024 type delays.

@IceClimbers I think Starfield and Forza Motorsport will be most likely to be delayed. Microsoft has a lot to prove with Starfield given Bethesda has an infamous reputation for really buggy games at launch and Microsoft says they've learned from Halo Infinite so if that's true they'll delay again if need be. Forza Motorsport I feel is a case of timing, Forza Horizon 5 Expansion 2 hasn't even been announced yet and Motorsport always releases a fair amount of time after the Horizon expansions have released.

So my guess for the lineup would be something like:

• January - AoE 2 Definitive Edition
• March - Ghostwire Tokyo
• April - Minecraft Legends
• May - Redfall
• August - AoE 4
• September - Hellblade 2
• October - Forza Motorsport
• November - Starfield, Halo Battle Royale

With the 2nd half of the year not mentioned at all outside of Forza Motorsport and Starfield delays until E3 which is when Microsoft expects the deal to close.

I feel like I have constant analysis paralysis on Switch. Too many great games on my console to the point I never play the vast majority beyond a small period after release.

Like, I beat Xenoblade 3, Nier Automata and Bayonetta 3 these past few months. Great. But I have so much in backlog with Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Persona 5 Royal, Triangle Strategy, 13 Sentinels, Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes, still playing Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak, got Dragon Quest Treasures and Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core out this week, and hundreds of other games I'll never actually get back to.

Sometimes I wanna play something different to spice things up, and can never decide what to play. It's a problem.

I'm actually starting to look forward to retirement (in 35 years time) so I can have more time.

And yet... sometimes I feel like it's never enough. No matter how many great games release I can't keep up with, I always want more, more, more. It's like, being addicted to the adrenaline rush of the announcement and anticipation of coming titles more so than the rush from actually playing them. Idk, it's weird.