@EaglyTheKawaiiShika
I don't believe all companies suck. I do believe they're not our friends. As for morals, all companies have morals and values, the question is how far they're willing to be flexible with them, and how often they're willing to bend them, to get what they want. It's a grey area, not black or white.
If the criteria for a company sucking is any single infraction for which most reasonable people can claim they're in the wrong, then all companies suck. But they don't all suck equally.
We should be loyal and thankful to them not the people in suits
I do agree with this. Even with Nintendo, it's the creators I feel an affection toward, not the business. The people who push a culture of innovation and fun gameplay first.
@Ralizah
I think Sony is making a bigger deal out of this than it really is. Yes, CoD is a big game. For sure. And Diablo (but we only see a new one of those on console what, once per decade? So eh). If Sony is going to crumble and buckle its position over ONE. SINGLE. GAME... then they don't deserve to be market leader. They don't deserve it. I don't care how big a game it is. Even if every single PS gamer who buys CoD every year left the ecosystem in a mass exodus, they'd still only lose like 10 million gamers. And they're definitely not going to lose every single one. Many will simply play on PC or buy an Xbox also. But how many customers will they lose? A couple million tops. PS4 sold 117 million. Xbox One sold 55 million. Tip the scale by a few million each way, and it's still a drop in the bucket.
It's the revenue they care about. But just as much as revenue I think it's ego. They're too egotistical to accept being 2nd place in anything. It's why they bowed out of the handheld space so quickly after just 1 failed hardware release. Meanwhile, PSVR is getting a successor. Why? Because Vita was seen as a loser compared to 3DS. Whereas PSVR is seen as the best selling VR headset. It's nowhere near as lucrative at 1/3 the install base and WAY less software sales, but it fluffs their ego. So they support it.
The Nintendo slander perpetuating silly fanboy stereotypes is something you'd expect to read in an IGN comment section by a user named "SonyAlwaysWins2497", not the CEO. Yes, Nintendo definitely maintains a family friendly image, but family friendly does not equate to "only children" or even "majority children". And the data backs that up. The majority of the user base is in fact adults. But even if that wasn't the case, are they insinuating Call of Duty isn't played by children? Without children, CoD wouldn't be anywhere near as big as it is today. It's so deeply errant it's downright offensive. As if to say, anyone who plays on Switch is just a child, because obviously no adult would prefer anything other than power and graphics /s
And it all goes back to ego. By "disqualifying" Nintendo with their statement they essentially rationalize the fact they're not the market leader anymore. Nintendo is. And I think they can't stand that fact (because they're so egocentric and petty). Call of Duty, if given competent day and date releases on Switch 2 alongside other platforms, would easily sell 2+ million copies, and that's just to start with. That may not sound like a lot, but for a platform that hasn't received an entry in a decade, and the last generation had a failed console, and the generation prior a sub-HD console without 2nd analog stick, that would be pretty notable. At least 20% of the sales Sony sees despite them dropping helicopter cash every year for exclusive content and marketing. From there, it would only grow. Maybe it hits 3-4 million per game by end of next gen. Will it ever reach the sales seen on other platforms? Probably not. But it's impact wouldn't be negligible as they pretend.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@Giancarlothomaz
That's true, but I can only speak from my perspective. And from where I'm sitting, it's a non issue.
But even so, while I can understand what you're saying, and it is unfortunate, different countries have different currencies and pricing all over the world and that's just an economic reality. If it doesn't affect me, then I don't care. But even if it did affect me, I'd have to hate every company equally as much since they ALL have higher prices in certain regions.
But even then, even if no other company except one had higher prices, I still wouldn't despise a company because of that. It is what it is. I'm not gonna hate a company over prices. If I was gonna hate companies over prices I'd hate Sony for their $50 price increase to $550 for PS5 and them pushing $70 games. But I think that's a silly reason to hate a company. I can dislike something and not hate a company for it. Prices would fall into that category.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@EaglyTheKawaiiShika
I don't believe in worshipping anyone but the Lord my God. I enjoy entertainment through the avenue of video games, and at this juncture in my life, Nintendo Switch in particular. I very much love the console and games, but worship is a strong word. I'm just here for the games and hybrid experience with gyro. If Nintendo stopped providing that tomorrow, and Company B stepped in and made a system exactly like Switch, with games exactly like the ones on Switch, I'd be all over it. It's all about the experience, not the company. Though I do feel gratitude toward many companies for the products they provide. Nintendo for Switch, Capcom for Monster Hunter, Retro for Metroid Prime and DKC, etc.
But generally speaking, I don't care about 99% of the petty nonsense I see ppl complaining about. Don't care if Nintendo protects their IP aggressively taking down rom sites or fan projects or tournaments. I don't care if Microsoft doesn't have a good lineup or raises game prices or includes MTX (I dont like it, but I just won't buy them), I don't care if Sony abandons platforms prematurely or increases hardware/software prices (I mean, I don't like it, but I don't care enough to complain- I'll simply wait for a sale). I just don't care. I'm not looking for grievances like so much of outrage culture today. To anger me, a company has to do something that affects me on a personal, emotional level, and it has to be significant enough to not ignore.
There's only one thing that's ever triggered me on that level, and that's habitual moneyhatting to deprive and punish every gamer on other platforms. Sporadic moneyhats, ok. They're unavoidable. A game here and there, that can be overlooked. But when the core appeal of a platform is multiplatform games bought and paid for under the table to be held hostage, to the point dozens upon dozens of the biggest games are affected each generation, that gets me, as it screws me over in the worst way possible. Hypocrisy also gets under my skin, as does condescending, hostile remarks made toward other companies. There's a level of respect I like to see amongst companies, at least publicly.
But ya. I agree with your sentiment.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Oh man oh man OH MAN. 2023 is shaping up to be one of the best years in recent gaming memory. Could be even better than 2017 depending on how it goes but I'm so excited to find out!
My 2c on the Sony/MS/Nintendo bit from the last couple of pages. I think I'll go with what @Ralizah said mostly. Microsoft doesn't really need XBox, if you look at Microsoft's financial reports XBox is a small subset of the smallest of their three main revenue streams. "Cloud" is their biggest (Azure, SQL Server, Visual Studio, GitHub etc) then Business (Office 365, Exchange, Dynamics, CRM, etc) and THEN the retail products the average consumer knows Microsoft for (Windows Licences, Surface, Accessories and XBox)
Nintendo have their Disney tier IP which puts them in their own league. It's like when Disney+ launched, how does anyone compete with that? Even before all of their acquisitions Disney was god damn Disney. Same deal with Nintendo. Doesn't matter how behind the hardware is or what Nintendo does they still have the IP. ~1/3rd of the game franchises that have sold more than 100mill units are Nintendo exclusive and only 2 of them haven't been on Switch in some form. CoD and Pro Evolution Soccer
Sony is.... a bit more complicated. Gaming is a much larger slice of their revenue than it is for Microsoft and is their single largest source of revenue. But in terms of actual size? Depending on where they are in the cycle they're more or less the same size as Nintendo. And most of the other things they are either stagnant or going backwards in. Music isn't the cash cow it used to be, movies is a space other players are making moves, consumer electronics they're being hit by Canon on one side and Samsung on the other
Sony kinda has to keep consuming studios to survive in this space because they've shown time and time again that they don't really understand their users. Microsoft doesn't care if they survive or not in this space, they're more worried about Amazon and Google. Nintendo aren't a tech company so they are slow to react especially when it comes to services. But they understand the business of making games probably better than anyone and, ultimately, we buy consoles for games not database services and cloud computing
edit: Also damn, Hades 2 AND a Bayonetta spinoff? Are these guys reading my posts again? I feel like these guys are just giving me the things I ask for now....
I think the Game Awards further cements the theory of new hardware alongside TotK. Nintendo announced stuff (Bayonetta Origins and Fire Emblem Engage Expansion Pass) but no sign of TotK despite BotW being a big presence at the Game Awards back when Nintendo announced stuff there (2014, 2016, 2017). Which makes it seem that TotK will look impressive on new hardware but showing that now would disrupt Switch holiday sales, Nintendo obviously don't want that. I imagine the new hardware would be announced February/March in either a big general Direct or a January 2017 style presentation.
@JaxonH Maybe I'm being overly judgemental, but I suspect Playstation needs to be seen to be 'winning' because a significant proportion of the PlayStation consumer base is the type of individual that needs to be on the winning team.
If Xbox could stop committing own goal after own goal ('TV!', 'No used games', year after year after year of virtually barren first party output, physical discs just being download launch keys) then they could overtake Playstation in consumers' eyes and the egocentric players that can't hack 'not winning' will jump ship. Some might say there's a significant overlap between those people and CoD players...
And just re-running the fun a few pages (that's my MO nowadays 😫), Nintendo has demonstrated a pretty cold edge towards it's fading systems. Wii U and 3DS production both seemed to stop pretty abruptly to focus everyone on Switch. If they did the same for the Switch successor then this could impede Switch in its pasture years.
I know this is such a water is wet take for most of you lol but wow… Hades is GREAT. I picked it up on the super sale they dropped after the Game Awards. I played this a few times over the years while it was in early access as I have loved some of Supergiant’s other games. While it was still very similar even all those years ago, it feels like the game has been significantly retuned and repaced from where it was when I last played it, moving away from the more traditionally punishing Rogue genre that it once was, and the reason I was once driven away.
In the past, I couldn’t ever get beyond Meg. I beat her on my first attempt here (it admittedly took me a couple of goes to get to her in the first place.) I’ve now managed to get to her, beat her and move on every run since. Admittedly I only got to the second boss once (and I got so close to beating them too! >.<) and haven’t been able to get back to them again since. But I just feel moment to moment way more powerful than I ever did in previous builds of the game. And just generally, everything feels faster. Even as I struggle in the second zone, with each and every death I seem to unlock some kind of new mechanic or narrative development or some combo of the both. This was still true in previous builds of the game, but I don’t remember it being on every run, in fact many runs yielded no rewards at all and were just wasted, which is why I dropped the game and decided it wasn’t for me previously.
Oh and it is great on Switch. Seems like Cult of the Lamb borrowed from their combat heavily, but whereas Cult was super choppy (at least on launch when I played), Hades feels so smooth, which is important when the combat can be so chaotic. I love how simple the combat is, but how much depth lies between it, and how awesome it makes you feel with how flashy it all is.
Handheld mode still holds up well with the original Switch model I got in April 2017. I forgot to charge my pro controllers and my final one ran out of charge during an online MK8 Deluxe race so had to choose between playing in handheld mode or after the race had ended returning to my Series X to play something else. I went with the former.
@Grumblevolcano I still play exclusives on other home consoles (playing the Castlevania Requiem collection on PS4 atm), but the hybrid design of the Switch makes me wish I could play everything on it.
@Pizzamorg Really ought to pick Hades up. I hear it's particularly attractive on the SWOLED. Not a big rouge-lite person, but I've been hearing about how wonderful the game is for years now, and told myself I'd pick it up if it ever went down to $10. It's not quite there, but... it's close! We'll see.
Currently Playing: Resident Evil Village: Gold Edition
@IceClimbers
Can't speak for others, but I'm just not interested in it. So I don't care what they price it at. Unless it comes out with raging reviews (which I doubt) I can safely wait for a $20 sale on that one. I just don't understand the gameplay loop. Maybe that'll become more clear as it nears release.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
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