Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@jump If the circumstances werent so tragic that'd be equally impressive.

But for now as @Slowdive said, the ignorance of a failed game publisher employee trying to argue 10 year old logic in the face of data on Twitter is just...its peak internet discourse.

@Slowdive I think SEGA's relying way too heavily on Genesis stuff much like how Nintendo relies too heavily on NES and SNES. Sure the Saturn and Dreamcast weren't as successful much like the N64 and GC weren't as successful for Nintendo but it's an important skill to distinguish between poor sales because of hardware and poor sales because of software. Nintendo understood this fully regarding the Wii U hence how the Switch is a Wii U port machine but neither have understood it regarding older systems.

@Grumblevolcano Absolutely agree. I remember being excited for the Mega Drive Collection when it released on Switch...played it once, and then moved on. There's only so many times I can get excited for that system after all these years

I would love to be able to play Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5 or Skies of Arcadia on the Switch however. Or even some of the more recent Sonic games. Or how about something like Gunvalkyrie or Billy Hatcher (although these would probably be very poorly received these days)?

I really want Sega to just release all their Master System games. I am amazed they haven't bothered doing that yet as it would be such a simple collection to put together. They know Europe is a big fan of the Master System, it's the reason they stuck Alex Kidd in Miracle World in the Ages series.

i think Nintendo should invest more in 2D games, 3D games are too much costly and risky to develop and everyone have a negative estigma on 3D games, 2D games is always better then 3D games, Nintendo where is the next mainline Kirby game for the 30th anniversary of the Kirby franchise in 2022? where is the next mainline 2D Legend of Zelda game? where is the next 2D mainline Mario game?

Back to Miitopia discussion, I checked the eshop charts and Miitopia is currently in 7th 6 days before launch. Only games that have done that well or better before launch this year have been 3D World, MH Rise and New Pokemon Snap.

2D games aren't as popular as 3D games, but Nintendo is the best in the business when it comes to 2D. One of the key perks of owning Nintendo platforms is gaining access to the few remaining AAA 2D games left. Namely DKC and Mario, but 2D Metroid could fall in that camp as well. They have some B-tier 2D games also, like Kirby and Yoshi (even their B-tier is better than virtually every other 2D platformer out there).

I want to see Nintendo continue to put out those 2D games, because if they stop, we lose the genre. Ya, there's indies and stuff but for full priced top-shelf budget 2D games, Nintendo is the last man standing.

That said, I don't want them to only release 2D games. Yes I want my 2D DKC, yes I want my 2D Mario, yes I want my 2D Metroid, and I'll even take my 2D Kirby and Yoshi (when they nail it, they nail it, like with Wooly World and Planet Robobot). But I also want 3D Mario. I also want a 3D DK. I also want 3D Metroid. I still want the majority of their games to be 3D.

And, they can do both. At least Ori and the Blind Forest and Ori Will of the Wisps came to Switch. Those were some of the best 2D games ever made, and absolutely on par with Nintendo's own offerings.

BTW, I hope we get Sonic 3 + Knuckles. That was my favorite of all the Sonics growing up and they never release those games individually anymore, much less release the combo where Sonic 3 was inserted into S&K.

@Giancarlothomaz not sure what you’re on about with having a stigma about 3D games, they are the norm and standard. Also if you look at Mario the New series has a fairly meh reaction to compared to the more celebrated 3D ones so I’m not sure where you are getting 2D is better than 3D from. This is of course ignoring something as stupid as a 2D game is better than a 3D since quality doesn’t work like that.

I’m neither for or against 2D/3D DK but Ninty went through a phase of having too many 2D platformers, they even turned Pikmin and Chibi Robo into 2D platformers and were laughed at for doing it. They have Yoshi, Kirby, Mario Maker and New Mario etc so Donkey Kong moving to 3D makes space in the already crowded 2D platformers scene and boosts it’s 3D mascot game output which is fairly slim pickings at the moment which all makes sense to me.

@jump Donkey Kong 64 give me a bad impression on 3D games and that why Nintendo should invest more in 2D games, i at least Super Mario Odyssey cured my negative estigma of 3D games.

@Giancarlothomaz Lol Donky King 64 was released back in the 90s, it’s gonna blow your mind what video games are like nowadays. ;p

@Slowdive ead made 3d world. I’m sure the DK gang would fit perfectly into a 4 player 3d Dk world.

I hated DK64. I think it’s terrible. While DKC series are my favorite 2D platformers of all time.

So naturally, I’m typically far more excited for a new 2D DKC entry than a 3D one. Tropical Freeze announcement almost made me cry, and I’m not an emotional person.

HOWEVER. We already got Tropical Freeze, so I feel satisfied, and if there’s any team that can do justice for DK in 3D, it would be Nintendo’s internal 3D Mario team.

So it seems the stars have aligned to the extent I’m actually hoping it’s 3D. With that said, you wouldn’t see me complaining if it was 2D. Regardless of what genre it is, that team makes masterpiece games. So I’m not overly concerned with the specifics. Whatever it is, I know it’ll be top shelf.

@Slowdive I got the Switch collector’s edition pre-ordered, I have no idea how well it’ll play but I just love that game so I couldn’t refuse the purchase.

@Slowdive Yeah I bought both Sega Ages versions of those games too. Alex Kidd DX is giving me some Dragon’s Trap remake vibes. I’d love to see Alex Kidd in Shinobi World get that treatment. That’s my favourite.

@Slowdive I think timing was a key thing, 3D World (Wii U) came out at a time when 2D platformers were extremely common by Nintendo and the more traditional 3D Mario hadn't been seen for awhile. People got their traditional 3D Mario with Odyssey and then when 3D World came to the Switch it was a lot better received than on Wii U.

There's not really a comparable situation with DK like the main complaints about Tropical Freeze was that it wasn't Metroid Prime 4. Like when VGA 2013 happened Reggie wore the Metroid pin to the event and then the big reveal was Cranky Kong in Tropical Freeze.

On a different note, I wonder how Capcom will approach revealing the 3.0 update for MH Rise. Given it's releasing at the end of May we know almost for certain it'll go live between May 25th and May 28th (won't go live on a weekend and releasing on May 31st would mean it's June in some regions) but with E3 approaching perhaps the 3.0 update will be all that's detailed with future MH Rise and MH Stories 2 info saved for Nintendo E3 2021 Direct.

The Metroid fan base is starving. Like a pride of lions that haven’t eaten in a few days, they’d take any scrap of information, even if it was literally conceived in someone’s sleep.

If we don’t get anything during E3 regarding Metroid Prime 4 I still wouldn’t think it’s cause for concern though.

@TheJGG Starving? Metroid has had two games released in the last 5 years, that’s a lot more than actually popular games series can manage ;p

@jump I wish those two games just received switch ports. For federation force I’d find it easier to find friends to play with on the switch then the 3ds. I know a lot of people owned the 3ds but no one I knew. As for the Samus returns game. It came out so late on 3ds I wasn’t buying it there thinking it would see a switch port eventually. Maybe I’ll have just missed out. But still starving none the less

@sixrings since you didn’t buy the last Metroid game it’s your own fault and yours alone that Nintendo doesn’t treat Metroid as a big franchise if even Metroid fans don’t buy Metroid games ;p