Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Sail Forth is a concept I really like. Loved the sailing and exploration of Wind Waker and the sea battles of Black Flag and this could be the best of both worlds. It’s kind of a bummer that some of the more ambitious 3D games by indie devs haven’t hit the mark cough Pine, so I’m hoping this one is good.

Speaking of Atlus its been 2 years since they announced SMT 5 and no new details at all. Yet they always keep us updated as long as it's Persona. Really hoping P5 comes to switch. It's never been said that Persona is a Sony exclusive neither has SMT been declared a switch. Ever since the GameCube era you can't put much stock in exclusivity (looking at you RE 4).

I'm baffled by the lack of Atlus's support of the Switch. They've been huge supporters of Nintendo portables in the past. Etrian Odyssey, Persona Q, Devil Summoner, Radiant Historia, Shin Megami Tensei, Trauma Center, etc. We're almost upon year four of the Switch and what have they brought? SMT V announced, Tokyo Mirage Sesssions FE# Censored, and Persona 5 Scramble (which is developed by Koei Tecmo's Omega Force).

I'm curious as to why Atlus's support for Nintendo fell off a cliff with the Switch? Why is a Japanese company shrugging off their country's leading console? Where is the Atlus back catalogue? Dragon's Crown, Odin Sphere, Catherine, Persona?

I'm stupefied by their absence.

@link3710 yeah i can use the 512 for most of my games and put the games i probably won't return to for a good while on the 200 if needed.

by the way, which one is $60, the closest I can find is $80.

@Magician Those games are generally Playstation-exclusive. Atlus doesn't do this thing where they port their entire back catalog of games to every modern system that will have them.

As to why support fell off a cliff? Because Switch is an HD console, and the games require a longer time to produce. Same reason PS4 got almost nothing from Atlus before Persona 5 in 2016/2017.

3DS games are low res and likely require a lot less dev time, so it's easy to churn out a steady stream of games.

@scubydo At the moment they're all $80, they dropped to $60 when they're on sale so that means they'll probably drop to that price again next time there's a sale.

@Ralizah
It's not like it's actually exclusive to Sony. Outside of Naughty Dog Sony has no first party. Which is fine. Nintendo has its first party IPs, Microsoft owns Rare so its first party. But unlike Nintendo and Microsoft Sony seems to be very tyrannical towards games that come to it third party. Look at the Castlevania collection. It came to both Nintendo and Sony but Sony played dirty pool and wouldn't allow the requiem collection since it "paid" for it.

I don't see the transition to HD slowing Capcom down in regards to porting their back catalogue to the Switch. Although to be fair, Capcom has 10x the number of employees, so their throughput is much larger. But does Atlus take so much pride in their work that they can't contract external developers to port their games to the Switch? The Switch is hot, and Atlus is leaving money on the table.

@Magician Atlus isn't exactly known for speedy development. They had a huge turnout on 3DS...it was fast and cheap to write for, but most importantly, a lot of that was remakes and extensions of older games, so they were cranking them out at a steady pace. But their bigger games at the time, P4G, SMTIV, TMS#FE, etc took f o r e v e r to get out the door.

@Magician
So true. The general lack of announcements is also weird. Yeah making a game may take time but to say they are working on a new Trauma Center or Etrian for switch would let us know we aren't abandoned. Most games use the same engines across platforms so a port of P5 or Catherine wouldn't be that much a stretch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSrGiiy95U&list=PLYP1ztSi2...
Last trailer for SMT back in 2017 and in that time P5, P5R, Catherine, P5 P3 dancing and PQ2 were announced with only Q2 for Nintendo.

I think this is where a lot of frustration lies. Atlus are only harming themselves by not releasing these games on the Switch. There's no obvious reason as to why these games are PS-exclusive other than Atlus wanting them to be exclusive. Even madder is Catherine being released on Xbox and Vita, but not Switch for some reason.

Other companies have seen the opportunity in Switch and released previously-exclusive games on it: look at Capcom with Okami, Namco with Tales of Vesperia and Ni No Kuni, and Square-Enix with the Final Fantasy series. Its baffling that such a company like this - a Japanese company, no less - isn't taking advantage of the situation.

Okami is Capcom.

When they revealed SMT V it had just started development. I wouldn’t expect a 2020 release date for Japan unless they upped the staff that usually develops their games. 2021 Japan release and 2022 localized Western release is my guess.

@Ryu_Niiyama True, seemed to forget that in the moment. Point still stands though!

I think SMT dev work might ramp up a bit once P5R and P5S are both out the door. I mean the last trailer looks like they have the theme in place.

@NotTelevision
Is it so hard to fathom a simultaneous worldwide release? There's simuldubs and simulcasting of show straight from Japan now!

@GameOtaku Well Persona 5 Royal has a 5 month release gap between Japan (October 31st 2019) and the rest of the world (March 31st 2020) so it's a reasonable guess to think SMTV will have a similar if not longer gap.

Yeah, let's hope so, @NotTelevision.... We'll probably head something soonish, if that's about right

@Grumblevolcano
5 months is not even a year. In a production facility you have a deadline of when the work must be done. The way most of you are talking is they have all the time in the world. What are the European and American branches of these companies doing if not sitting on their thumbs! Have them send the materials for localization and get a start on it.