Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@AlohaPizzaJack, yeah, that level would've freaked me the heck out as a kid. I know Nintendo has had some surprisingly dark moments in it's games before (some more so than this), but I still can't believe they based a Yoshi level on a slasher flick theme, lol.

@RR529 Makes me wonder if Luigi’s Mansion 3 will have a bathtub scene like Eternal Darkness now, haha

Ok, for some reason NOW my Switch Pro Controller wants to work with Bluetooth for my system. It didn't want to before, but now it does. Regardless I can finally play games on Steam without a bad controller :^]

Perhaps NLife will talk about this particular level. I probably won't purchase it until I buy other games that I'm more interested. So I may check it out when I have it or by a walkthrough video, or through this site.

So someone just went from "Panic Button is amazing look what they got running" to "They arent good enough".

There is a difference between stuff like Rocket League, Hob, DOOM etc. That Panic Button has ported, and stuff like Skyrim, and Darksiders.

The former are PS4 games.

The latter are 360 games.

Plus a lot of the former run on out of date, no longer supported by the developers engines, or proprietary engines.

Now you can argue that "Darksiders is the PS4 remaster" but you look at the lightjng and its actually cut below even the original release, and performance isnt 60fps.

Furthermore, resolution WOULD be the thing to be cut. Yes Skyrim was a good port but it didnt have many of the features of the remaster, didnt maintain 30fps and hit 900p maximum.

So imagine a game with downscaled PS4 assets instead of upscaled 360 ones, it would obviously need to hit a lower resolution on that alone as there are no lower quality assets to pull from, to hit the same average performance.

Then there are other factors such as what the game is doing, how much it is loading at any given time, balancing all the factors.

Its not incompetence, its prioritising.

It's confirmed that the physical Switch version of Wolfenstein Youngblood is just a download code in a box.

Stretching the definition of a ''physical version''

Wait....wait...hold up.

So North America gets boxes in stores with no cartridges in them, making them download only...

But Europe only gets a box for the Deluxe Edition, the standard is just download only without the box in stores?

So.….why put the boxes in stores at all?

Because trying to sell a game code on a card just isn't as effective.

@DarkRula But it would be cheaper.

I mean let's be honest, you could go full expense and do a card in a box, or fully cheap out and just do a download card.

This is the weird "We dont want to spend money on a card, buuuuut we WILL spend money on all the packaging."

I was going to buy DOOM Eternal but if Bethesda does this physical version with no cart approach for it, I'm skipping it for sure.

They do it because of gifting. It is nicer to give a certain game instead of a gift certificate.They also want the grandma that doesn't shop online to be able to find it in a store.

And the cart is the most expensive part of physical. It is much much slower to fill a cart than it is to fill a disc. This is also why I don't think the carts will be much cheaper in the future either, any gains in loading speed will be offset by bigger games.

It is upsetting, but it's yet another "get with the time" kick in the pants. I'm insanely old-school and "get off my lawn" and whatever, but all-digital is just the way every publisher wants to go. Physical releases are going to be boutique, special-edition (unless you're Wolfenstein...lol) affairs in the near future. I give it a few more years before nearly every publisher goes only digital.

Hopefully Nintendo itself will stay in the space for its first-party and second-party games.

Tbh I feel the next system after the 2 new models should just axe carts and be digital only. Even with carts some games like Doom still require an install. Carts have always been the achilles heel of the switch. Its just not viable.

Well that blows. I still have to get wolfenstein II anyway first

@WebHead Digital only being an option is fine like the rumoured XB1 SAD is a digital only alternative to the XB1S but there should always be a physical option.

@Grumblevolcano why? Switch downloads arent as big as competition and you can take it places where Wi-Fi is strong anyway. Nintendo isn't going back to discs. Carts are too expensive.

@WebHead There’s nothing wrong with a digital only console as long as there’s an alternative version that allows for physical media still available to purchase. However seeing that Japan is still mainly a nation of purchasing games in a physical format, and it being the market Nintendo takes most interest in, I doubt it’ll happen.

Why can every other medium and even pc gaming move to digital but not consoles?

Carts are too expensive and disks are too small.

Moving on is inevitable.