Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH the box art for nba 2k18 was updated after the initial announcement with the Requires download bar. Until blizzard says one way or the other it's 50/50

Wolfenstein 2 didn't say it initially either, then it did.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

@redd214 If it's 50/5, then there's a 45% chance they were lying to us all along and the game will be cancelled. The Sun will explode too. True facts.

@Knuckles-Fajita I'm thinking XCX (and I'm still hoping for an XC1 port. Wii was LE, 3DS was meh(meh-meeh!), WiiU....not hooking that up again to play XC1) will be next year. This year they have a new retail XC in Torna:GC, so they're not going to overshadow the new stuff for the old stuff.

@Octane It's true. Back on NES, you had SMB. Run in lines, jump things, warp in pipes. SMB2 Throw turnips and carry keys and ride on magic carpets. SMB3: Mario is a furry because. And it had the whole music note/theater thing. SMBW: Ok fine he rides a dinosaur and flies with a cape. SMBW2: You are the dinosaur. And Mario is an infant. And the whole thing is in crayon. Staring with Wii we get: Run in lines, jump things, warp in pipes. In every game. And that was after a 2 generation absence of 2D mario. And the original creators still producing them. Huh?

But then again, the upper management wanted SMB2 to be just more SMB all the way back then. Management never wanted to change the formula in the ways that made 2, 3, and World great. And Miyamoto's draft for SMBW2 was rejected....they wanted more SMBW. Maybe the big thing that changed is Miyamoto doesn't buck the system like he used to since he joined the system.

@NEStalgia I dont give two damns if they overshadow XC2 with X, XC2 is downright terrible XD

@JaxonH And just like that, there went my life......

@Octane happy now

@NEStalgia I've said before that they should expand on the 2D 8-bit sections of Mario Odyssey. Like how Captain Toad got his own game because of 3D World. Some Zelda Link Between Worlds wall swapping, foreground, background gameplay. Would be more unique than any of the NSMB games, and that's by recycling an existing idea

@Knuckles-Fajita You've barely played XC2 IIRC lol.

@Octane Completely agree. I thought the same thing with some of the more unique 2D sections like around the pillars. Knowing Nintendo, though, they haven't made the connection themselves yet

@MisterPi How is this game not a fit for Switch? It's a game that arguably controls best with a controller despite the rest of the series being fit for mouse (they did a heck of a job with the controller ports back for P3/4), supports 4-way couch-co-op, and is a long time sucking RPG beautifully fit for handheld play, both with pick up and play or long sessions, and isn't really a flashy graphics showcase. It's pretty much the poster child for what Switch excels at.

@Ralizah Blizzard has, like Nintendo, always used low spec graphics to meet a wide variety of PC specs. It's one of their reasons for their long term success. I bet the magic Nintendo compression works as well for their assets as it does for Nintendos. The whole thing is only 47GB or so with the X1X 4k patches. There's a reason Korean internet cafes with POS computers could still play StarCraft all those years!

@Knuckles-Fajita Not many people here would say XC2 is terrible! Most of the complaints I've heard are "I don't like the revealing clothing because I'm white knighting" (meanwhile women I know that play hadn't even noticed until I mentioned the controversy. Then still didn't notice. ) And people complaining about the story which I think is simple and fine, nothing mind blowing like the first one but also a lot more coherent than the first one.

I have some very specific complaints about navigation, questing, HM slave...err....blade affinities....that I believe are unforgivable (you can read about my endless complaints in the XC2 thread ) but I still love the game overall. I'm curious what you dislike about it?

@NEStalgia If a XCX port announcement would overshadow anything, it wouldn't be the Torna DLC for XC2 but rather Daemon X Machina.

@EvilLucario @NEStalgia Correct. I have barely played XC2.

What does that tell you?

@Knuckles-Fajita That you've barely gave it a chance. That's like giving up on Xenoblade X before you first meet the Ganglion and/or unlock Skells/Overdrive or giving up on Hollow Knight before getting to somewhere like Fog Canyon or (insert random game here to certain random point).

From what I remember, you just dropped the game and had no desire to return, in the XC2 thread.

@NEStalgia Pretty sure @MisterPi is referring to NSMBU, not Diablo.

@Grumblevolcano Good point.

@Knuckles-Fajita But what specifically didn't you like about it? If you barely played it can't be the story since you barely got into it to know. I doubt you have a particular concern about costuming of female characters

So, it's got to be gameplay (or graphics) related? Navigation sucks but it's equally bad as 1. Quests are better than XC1's MMO quests, but the presentation, delivery, instructions, everything about them is botched as can be to the point you need a guide to try to play them. The battle system is an upgrade from XC1's "break! topple! daze! repeat!" but not as elegant as X's. Sadly the game never properly tells you how to use the battle system in a meaningful way, so EvilLucario is my in-game tutorial narrator.

@NEStalgia See depending on your viewpoint, XCX's combat system may or may not feel the most elegant of the series. XCX is my favorite of the three, but the game tells you NOTHING and the manual doesn't help much. You have to figure out what Soul Voices do (the game does NOT tell you they are your primary healing source), figure out Overdrive, wonder what the hell a combo is, etc.

Your mileage may vary with XC1 and XC2 tutorials, but overall if you read them you'll do fine.

@NEStalgia As a girl, instead of the clothing I'd wish that there's more A to B-sized chests... Why is it all the super huge ones?!

Although more cool clothing should be cool.

XC2 has my favorite combat system in the series. It's a lot of fun.

Having to rely on Soul Voices to heal almost ruins XCX's combat for me.

@darkfenrir As a guy, I agree