Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Roamer As @Octane will tell you, where do you think most of that £50 a year goes? Free games.

You ain't paying for servers, it's all Peer to Peer. You aren't paying for network improvements, because god knows the Store is still a pile of ass that doesn't even run properly or use the on-screen keyboard, and you can't do basic stuff like alter your username, as the network hasn't actually upgraded outside of adding more systems since it was first created, and seemingly built on sand.

Most of what you are paying for is empty. The money you spend is for the same quality of service you'd get anyway. That's before you add in PSNow subscriptions for backwards compatability via streaming, and then spending on the internet connection to do it properly, assuming you can access the game you want to play, because there are queues to play games.

The games exist to sweeten the deal and make that £50 feel worth a damn.

Also to add some things, if you don't have PS4 and only own PSVita, don't get PS+, the selection of games suck like hell and the only thing you'll get is a cloud save. So I guess that's the only reason...

I still would rather not pay for pointless things that I’d never/barely use. If we have to pay just to play online games that I already bought, I probably won’t buy them in the first place.

It’s annoying.

@DarthNocturnal
Sony and Microsoft also charge ~3x as much as the rate Nintendo has published and as you said one of them does have cloud saves behind a paywall. Really for the price Nintendo are charging all they need to do is have one 30-50% discount on one retail game I wanted once a year and it has paid for itself. Or alternatively if you can use My Nintendo gold coins to pay for the subscription I've effectively already paid for it.

I just think it's probably just better if we wait and see what is actually on offer before we complain about what they are and aren't charging for.

@DarthNocturnal
It's because you pay on PS for the cloud backups, and because we desperately need an option to back up saves on Switch. And because of that I take no issue having to pay for it, as long as it means they provide that service.

It would be even better if we don't pay for it, but I don't see that as a likely outcome. $20 a year is not an issue for me. What is an issue for me, however, is not having a way to backup saves. Hence why I will gladly exchange something I couldn't care less about ($20 a year? Pssssh... that's chump change) for something I very much do care about.

But the reason I refuse to pay for online without that service is not because the money matters, but because of principle. If they can't at least provide cloud storage then I see no reason to give them more money for a poor service. In fact I'm not even sure I'd do it if the online is tied to the phone. Not that it's too much of a hassle- but if I'm gonna use a phone, I'll just use Discord (not that I could once games are behind the sub paywall). It just boils down to principle.

Of course, I already got my Splatoon 2 and MHXX out of my system, and there's really no other online games I intend to play on Switch. So there's that.

https://twitter.com/noelfb/status/949469531168169985

I'm not interested in online multiplayer and other online services (except a common browser that I hope will be available for everyone), I would prefer local, personal backup of save files instead of cloud even if Nintendo cloud service will be free, you can only imagine how much angry I'd be if the cloud will be the only backup option and it will be locked beyond the subscription.
I can accept that one have to pay to get online services (expecially since I'm not interested in those services lol ) but having some guarantees about your saved games, knowing that you can restore them easily and immediately by yourself if some problem occur with the hardware it is not an online service, it can be done in other ways too, that's why I absolutely don't want to pay for it.

@DarthNocturnal Cloud saving should be free as long as we don't have the option to back up our own save files. Sony charges for cloud saving through PS+, but at least we can back up our own files, for free.

The biggest issue is that there's no transparency whatsoever. For example, I still like to know how expensive online play (P2P included) truly is. How expensive is cloud storage? Frankly, I have no idea, but I don't think it's €60 a year like Sony and Microsoft are charging. I even don't think it's €20 a year. If I'm paying Sony €60 a year, and that's enough to fund all those ''free'' PS+ games, and they still have enough left to make profits worthwhile of boasting about, then I don't think the actual online was ever that expensive to begin with.

Is the online maintenance this tuesday a sign that a Nintendo direct is happening? It used to be, right?

Don't they do online maintenance like every week though? Or is this one different from those

Some people think it's to do with the Nvidea security flaws, though I don't really understand exactly what it is all about despite reading the Nintendo Life article about it.

According to this listing, "Broken Sword 5" is Switch-bound. (In German-speaking countries, the games go under the title "Baphomets Fluch", or "Baphomet's Curse")

https://shop.kochmedia.com/shop/de_DE/productdetail.html?medi...

@antster1983 I would be happy if they ported the first two games to the Switch as well. Even if digital only. But if they can port Broken Sword 5 then hopefully the rumoured to be in development Beneath a Steel Sky 2 will also come to the Switch.

It isn't expensive at all. Saves are usually not big at all and it costs next to nothing have a server up.

And game servers are hosted at their respective publishers/devs. So that isn't a cost. If they didn't have the "free" games, I am not sure it would be legal for them to restrict access.

I decided to take a look at eShop charts. I was very surprised to see Vs. Super Mario Bros. in first place. 1-2-Switch is 15th right now thanks to being 30% off.

I bought ARMS on Thursday and it's great. I knew I'd like it but it's even better than I thought. Also bought Super Bomberman R today for 20€. I have 34 games now (retail + eShop exclusives, including both free pinball games).

My order is in!!!!

No idea if this has been posted before, but System 3 (Super Putty Squad, FruitFall Crush, Constructor Plus) is bringing a racing game to the Switch. I wish it was a Ferrari game, but it isn't... (sigh)

http://www.system3.com/buckle-up-and-prepare-for-rally-racers...

@Late 1-2 Switch is 2nd in the Japanese charts and it isn't even on sale.

Broken Sword 5 would be superb to have on Switch. I didn't know there was 5th but from looking at reviews it's supposed to be a really good one. I've only played the original, Shadow of the Templars but I absolutely loved it. It remains to this day the only game I've ever completed on PC.

@antster1983 It looks like it will be a Switch exclusive. I'm always open for more racers, be it cartoon or realistic. Need to see this one in motion though to see whether it's worth caring about. I wonder if it's budget download title or a full price release?

@Late That was a good price for Bomberman, I'd bite if I saw it at that price.

ARMS is legit. If you can find a group of friends who can get into it with you for some winner-stays-on local multiplayer, you're living the dream.