Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Isn't this mentality was got Nintendo in such a bad place in the first place? The idea that sequels that are just more of the same somehow is beneath them? I would love to see updated versions of all the classic Nintendo series.

If you do this too much, like the Far Cry series, there could be fatigue over the concept, but the idea that every new game needs to revolutionize to be successful is something that might not be true.

@JaxonH I would never think Mario Run was a full game nor did it hold my attention for longer then what was free. Fire Emblem had a little more legs in the mobile department but even then I got bored pretty quick. I have Zero Interest in Animal Crossing now after those 2.

I get your point though but there's not too many mobile games I would even consider at more then $20 and Gear.Club has a lot to prove at that price.

@OorWullie The first game was my favorite indie game on the U. I can't wait till they bring that over to the Switch!!

Nintendo has estimated that Super Mario Odyssey has already surpassed 2 million copies sold worldwide in it's first three days

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/171031_2e.pdf

@StuTwo Right?! Just take out the stupid mechanics that make you blow on the controller and whatnot and you have a PERFECT Switch game. It just seems so well-suited to the platform. Shame it'll probably just rot on the Wii U forever.

@Agriculture Normally I'll agree, but when the NSMB games can be likened to mass-produced games with little care or love put into them, that's where I'd draw the line. It's even more redundant when you factor in Super Mario Maker, which really goes a long way in removing a lot of the need for any NSMB-like games.

In this case, NSMB needs something to drive it forward, since the past 4 games have just been pretty much the same and derivative of each other. That does not mean they're bad games, but they're more stagnant than anything else.

@EvilLucario I'd argue that NSMB2 was fairly unique in its singular focus on coin accumulation. It changed the way you play the game. In my case, I know that I took chances in this game that I would never take in another Mario platformer in order to collect as many coins as possible. Also, consider the wonderful coin rush levels, which are unlike anything seen in a Mario game before or since.

But yeah, I agree that another NSMB would need something to distinguish it.

@EvilLucario super Mario and cappy 2d adventure

If Fire Emblem were to release by March (which I know it won't, but if it did) it would mean getting a new, best ever entry of Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Monster Hunter and Fire Emblem all within 12 months. And those are six of my favorite franchises of all the time. The only one that's missing would be Metroid, but even that got a new entry, even if it's not the best ever.

I was just thinking about that... like wow. Practically all of my favorite games have gotten or will be getting a new release all within 12 months of each other and all of them are not only the best game in their respective series, but arguably some of the best video games ever made.

Even if we have to make it a two year period just to get squeeze in Fire Emblem, Metroid Prime 4 and Pokémon (which will also likely be the best in its series to date)... that's going to be one heck of a two-year gaming period.

Above all else I'm just glad there's two new Metroid games. Such a great time to jump back into Nintendo gaming after maining MMOs on PC and some Pokemon here and there.

The announcement of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 also got me interested in the series so I bought both XC1 and XCX. Holy ****, they're both incredible games.

@Spoony_Tech Yep it's a classic. I played through it twice and I think enjoyed it even more the second time. It'll be hard for Drinkbox to top the original.

With The Game Awards coming in December, I'm wondering could we possibly see a Nintendo 1st and 2nd place for GOTY?BOTW and Odyssey are far and away the highest rated games of the year so to not have both at least in the top 3 with one of them victorious would be be going against the opinion of practically every reviewer out there. There can only be one winner for Developer of the Year too. Sony and Microsoft won't want to see Nintendo dominating the show though so it'll be interesting to see how much credibility this award show has.

@JaxonH I think you jump the gun a bit too fast if you are saying all those franchises are the best ever entries. I mean not all are even out yet.

@ralizah I thought the opposite, coins are my least favorite mechanic in Mario games, why would I want an entry that focuses on that?

I think the art direction is the biggest culprit on why the nsmb games feel stale. The same art style can also be seen in 3d land/worlds. If you look at Mario + rabbids, they managed to capture the feel of the mushroom kingdom, but still have it feel different from the other Mario entries.

I had posted that news several hours prior.

https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/what_do_yo...

I know. But the price that Nintendo charges isn't necessarily a true or scaled reflection of their costs. It's a marketing consideration of how much they think people will be willing to pay for a particular SKU and how effectively they can justify that price.

I think there are 2 components to the question though. Firstly there's the question of just how much can be saved in regards to manufacturing and shipping. Stripping out the dock, the grip and integrating the controls could save more than we are guessing it will.

They could even save cost by doing something that would elicit cries of anguish on this forum... by reducing the internal built in memory from 32 to 16 gb and in doing so making it clear anyone who's serious will pay the premium. It sounds impossible but it's how Apple aggressively won market share with the 8gb iPhone 5c (in every country other than the US).

Secondly there's the question of margin expectations and the price Nintendo wants to sell at. They could swallow their margin expectations slightly for a handheld only Switch or keep the price the same but bundle a digital copy of Mario Kart (which amounts to effectively the same thing).

And of course a pure handheld is something that can be marketed differently and reach a different audience. I'm certain it will happen - it's just a question of when is the right time to do launch it.

A home console only Switch? Well sure. But then you're removing the one thing that makes the Switch different. It's not like having a 2DS, it's more like making a PSTV.

I don't think the ability to take it on the go is the only thing that makes the Switch different though. It's still the only one of the 3 consoles that emphasises motion control (which could matter when Nintendo releases Wii Sports 2018 or whatever) and it's the only one that really emphasises local multiplayer and younger players. Those two things differentiate it to an extent. It wouldn't sell 50 million units on the basis of those 2 things but it would probably sell enough to be worth Nintendo's while at some point in the future.

It would also be - potentially - a very cheap micro-console relative to the PS4 and the XBox One and could differentiate itself on price.

Yeah. It would be perfect for Switch and resonate incredibly well on the platform but unfortunately I think Nintendo will be loathe to release multiple Mario games in a year and it's probably going to find itself below a 2d Mario of some description in the pecking order.

It simply wouldn't sell as well as "Really, Genuinely NEW Super Mario Bros - we've even changed the graphics honest" will or generate as much excitement in the online bubble as a Galaxy or Sunshine HD remake.

Nintendo says 30% of Switch owners use it mainly without TV dock. No wonder AC adapter's doing well, I guess people use Switch in bedroom.

Full stats of the above post...

I for one am not the least bit surprised by either

Glad people seem to be primarily using this as a hybrid, using the system to its full potential.

Thankfully for them, people are using it as intended. Which makes me think we won't see a handheld only or dock only switch for a while if at all

@Therad
Nah, Zelda was best I ever played, so was Mario, and Monster Hunter is guaranteed best ever. We'll see how Xenoblade comes out but I have no doubt it'll be great, at the very least... same for Fire Emblem which will be HD for the first time ever... finally.