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JaxonH

My honest opinion about the app...

It's garbage. Insultingly bad. I and the other I play with are just going to use Discord, and that's the end of that. I'm buying that Splatoon headset for the adapter so I can still merge audio from the chat and game (hoping it doesn't matter what app you use- audio is audio). You can matchmake without the app, so really... no reason to use it.

Except for the fact it facilitates team chat while muting everyone else. That's the one thing this app does right. So, I may use it... but honestly, I think the strategy of voice chat in Splatoon is overrated. Oh hey, I'm painting the right, wait now I'm in the middle, oh wait I just got splatted, who needs help I'll superjump to you, I'm open, wait which one are you?

In any case, screw Nintendo's app. I'd have rather had Wii U voice chat than this. Cause at least Wii U didn't actively deny voice chat in every game like Switch does (where's MHXX voice chat? Even MH3U had it!). Their voice chat system is a total, epic fail, and I've washed my hands of it.

Thankfully, I never cared much for chatting anyways, and in the rare instance (like, 3 times in 5 years rare) I do I will happily use Discord.

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NaviAndMii

@JaxonH You know how many people I've seen who share your opinion? Yesterday, it seems, was a bad day for Nintendo - but a very, very good day for Discord!

There is hope, I guess, in that this new app can be updated and improved over time...but when there's a free-to-use, flexible, non-restrictive option already out there in Discord - it seems like Nintendo have really dropped the ball!

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JaxonH

@NaviAndMii
They should have made it built in the system itself.

But you know, I'm just grateful that of all the aspects of the system they could mess up, it's something I don't really care about. Better this than a slow OS, or no instant screencaps, or regionlock, or games tied to hardware. And I'm grateful there's a legit solution as well, just in case.

But, Idk, maybe it's better in practice than it sounds. I'll give it a try. I might be blowing things out of proportion a bit, like, I never get calls and if I can just hook it up and it works fine... maybe it won't be so bad. Phone has dim settings and medium power save, which should ensure it's not a major drain

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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OorWullie

@JaxonH It is the "limited" version and will improve in time but the question is just how limited is it compared to full version that will arrive next year. Maybe this is only a tiny part of what it will eventually become or perhaps not and what we have now is more or less what it'll be when the paid service arrives, minus a few tweaks here or there. I'm leaning towards the former myself. Although if that is the plan then they really should have ensured it was better at launch than it currently is. They've just opened themselves up for ridicule in the media and it may even put off potential buyers.

Personally I have zero interest in voice chat and would prefer it wasn't in Splatoon at all,in game at least. I do have hopes for an ever evolving Nintendo app though that can be a hub for everything as well as voice chat . News channels, MyNintendo, browse the Eshop and make purchases,game specific channels like Splatnet, MKTV, Smashnet that has all your stats and a place we can share in game screenshots etc.

Or maybe none of that will happen and what we have now is basically what we're getting.

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NaviAndMii

@JaxonH Oh sure, I agree ..we've got a snappy OS and the majority of the power going in to running the games - that's no bad thing - especially as the Switch lags behind the PS4 and X1S in the performance stakes...every little bit extra they can squeeze out of it, performance-wise, keeps that gap as small as possible ..and, you know, at least Discord exists as an alternative - it's not ideal, but it does act as some kind of 'workaround' if people don't really like Nintendo's own solution.

..plus, as @OorWullie says, this was only ever billed as a 'limited' version of the app - so perhaps we shouldn't read too much in to it? ..would have hoped for a more positive reception for app v1.0 though, for sure!

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Haruki_NLI

@JaxonH the share function on PS4 is slow. It loads a menu and you still control the game while navigating. The menu takes a bit to load, moving in the menu moves you in game, then to save a screenshot it has to load a seperate page!

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JaxonH

@BLP_Software

I... own a PS4, and have for 4 years lol. I know exactly how it is.

And... I never claimed it was fast...?

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Haruki_NLI

JaxonH wrote:

@JaxonH
Better this than a slow OS, or no instant screencaps

Its a follow up statement my boy. I know my english isnt great. No instant screenshots brought back horror of the PS4 Share button.

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JaxonH

@BLP_Software
Ah, gotchya. Ya, that's why I don't take screenshots on PS4... or X1 for that matter. Too cumbersome, won't use it.

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He was pierced for our transgressions

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Grumblevolcano

@DarthNocturnal It's even easier if you have the chatpad. Literally you press a button (X1, X2) dependent on whether you want a screenshot or clip.

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Octane

@BLP_Software What? You just press the share button and it sends the screenshot to your gallery. What are you talking about?

Octane

rallydefault

This app is classic, modern Nintendo. They took something that should be super simple: <enters game: plugs in headset to controller or possibly system: sets chat options through game menus: plays game and chats> and made it into a tangle of wires and inconvenient smartphone necessities (don't you dare check that text - KEEP THE APP FULLSCREEN OR YOU'RE TOAST).

THIS is what I was trying to say in my discussion yesterday. Nintendo isn't out of the woods yet with the Switch. Yea, they had a successful launch, but now Nintendo is going to do that thing where they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Don't kid yourselves that this online app won't be a big turn-off to a large group of gamers who were otherwise considering a Switch.

Nintendo needs to go back to the drawing board and figure this out. The app is convenient for looking at stats, maybe even organizing friends and stuff, but I still think they need to figure out a way to just route headsets directly through the console.

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane So I was playing Crash.

Press the button. Give it a few seconds. Menu appears. You still ckntrol the game at this stage probably for recording reasons.

Pick screenshot. Give it a moment. Saves. And taking video is even worse.

Given a choice id quite like the faster press and its saved rather than the whole menu overlay while the game keeps going thing.

Set screenshot to a press, video start to a hold. Simple. No need for the menu.

It baffles me why there are steps and waiting times in something a system with far less space to do so using the same base OS does instantly.

Itll probably be improved honestly or at least I hope it is. As right now the ahare function isnt as good as it could be on PS4.

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Haruki_NLI

@rallydefault Said online gamers probably also use Discord anyway.

In fact everyone i went to uni with did. Huh. Didnt think of that. Apparently its just easier minus screen sharing and video capabilities being missing.

Is the app bad? Cant say havent used it yet. Do most ganers use other means anyway? Yes.

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Octane

@BLP_Software Are you sure it's a PS4? Like I said, all you need to do is press the share button and a little prompt appears in the top right corner letting you know you've taken a screenshot. If you want to upload the image (which you can do at any time), go to your gallery; upload it to a USB stick or upload the image directly to Facebook or Twitter.

I'm not sure what menu you are talking about...

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diwdiws

@BLP_Software @JaxonH Huh? You just press the the share button for a second then a icon will appear indicating you took a screenshot. Its ONE button? How can that be cumbersome??

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane @diwdiws Definitelyba PS4. I dont get a prompt. I press the button and it hangs, loads a menu and says save screenshot.

You dont just press a button and get a prompt. At times it can take a fair bit for the menu to pop up.

As you can see. Tap the button. Menu.

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Haruki_NLI

@diwdiws Oh. Well no one said that did they? I judt press the button and there you go. I figured that was the full extent of the functionality given there was no indication otherwise.

Ill keep it in mind. Thanks for the info. Now to work out why it takes 20 minutes for a screenshot to show up on my Twitter feed from PS4 when its instant from any other device. Think there is some throttling in my connection.

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diwdiws

@BLP_Software you can also change the share button setting to easy screenshot mode so that:
-one tap will take a screenshot,
-two taps record video
-and long press to open the menu.

Its in the share settings

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