Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

@TheFrenchiestFry whilst King of Fighters is a celebrated fighting series it just isn’t in the same league as other fighting games like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Mortal Kombat or Dead Or Alive which have not got a Smash rep. Whilst yeah, some of those aren’t Smash friendly with their boobs and gore but the point I’m trying to make is in terms of fighting games I’m not sure KOF would make the top ten honestly.

@jump Mortal Kombat getting a Smash rep is physically impossible at this point given the games themselves have been banned in Japan since MK9

I'd imagine if Mai Shiranui couldn't make it into Smash any of the DOA girls are basically completely off the table. Also I think DOA is considerably more niche than KOF. DOA 6 proved that basically all of the game's value comes from the fanservice rather than the actual gameplay. It's not on the same level as other similar fighting games.

I imagine Tekken will still happen though. Heihachi was actually considered for Smash 4 but was dropped due to apparent difficulties translating the 3D Fighting gameplay to a 2D setting (although SFxT did that pretty freaking well). Tekken is definitely happening before Soul Calibur for sure. It's still considered Namco's premier fighting game franchise

@TheFrenchiestFry DOA may be a fan service game but it's popularity is way above KOF and most other fighting games.

I've always preferred Soul Calibur to Tekken myself. I never found the Tekken roster that interesting for my taste and Soul Calibur use of weapons always made it stand out to me.

@jump
KoF might not be very popular in the UK and US, but it definitely is in other parts of the world, South America especially and large parts of Europe and Asia as well. It's a couple of years beyond its prime, but so is every other fighting game franchise.

@Rexenoboy I never said KOF wasn't popular, just that it's popularity is modest compared to other fighters. The argument for Terry seems to be he's from a fighting game but I think there are choices from more popular and iconic fighters out there.

Whilst fighting games are not as big as they once they are still force, MK11 was the 5th biggest selling game last year for example.

Any idea if the new Impa could get into smash?

@Blooper987 I'd imagine if Impa is one of the pass fighters the HW AOC look would just be one of the skins rather than the only version. Her look has jumped all over the places from game to game (and even in the same game) to stick to just one version.

I'd love to see the fat nurse version be one of them for the lols, the Skyward Sword version is one of my favorites, the bad ass looking one from Ocarina of Time should be there too since that is when people started to take her more seriously and the BOTW/HW AOC one for synergy if it's just four like Dragon Quest's Hero.

They'd probably include Tingle in Smash over Impa just to annoy people. I still don't understand how he got his own spin off series over other Zelda characters.

Just saw this in my recommended:

Wonder who it'll be.

@Toy_Link The three question marks are hinting that the next character will be triple random

I still believe in Dante

Either him or Phoenix as a new Capcom rep

@DarthNocturnal That seems to be the case. It was probably also the fighter who was intended to be announced at E3 which is why it's JUST the trailer for the fighter I guess

@DarthNocturnal
May also be that there'll be another video presentation closer to the fighter's release (as there's been no mention of the next fighter releasing tomorrow.).

I suspect it's a third party character. They've gotten one first party out of the way and the last two fighters are both from Nintendo franchises

@DarthNocturnal I'm guessing release is too far off for the character breakdown (e.g. releases in January/February).

@DarthNocturnal Gap between Byleth and Min Min was 5 months.

@TheFrenchiestFry I dunno. There's a decent chance they struggled to get 3rd party characters for this set of fighters. Though, outside of a new Pokemon, it's hard to imagine who they'd even bring in. Xenoblade getting a second fighter isn't out of the question, nor are Bandana Dee or Dixie Kong. But eh, it's hard to tell.

@link3710 They decided on the lineup well before this pandemic actually happened (November 2019 according to the Byleth presentation). The struggle came from presenting the fighters to third party publishers according to Sakurai, which implies there are definitely third party characters in this lineup.

So wait, are we going to get a new set of Mii Costumes shown off at this or not?

@link3710 probably not. I’m guessing we’ll get a full sakurai presents in November

@DarthNocturnal Min Min alone wouldn't get lots of Fighters Pass 2 purchases so I'd guess the early reveal would be to increase Fighters Pass 2 sales over the holidays.