Topic: Super Mario Maker 2 Level Sharing

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Now, this was a LOT of work:

Luigi's Recto/Verso Mansion 2MY-LB9-9NF

This is sort of a sequel to Super Recto/Verso Land, with the same gimmick: the level has actually two sides - taking a door takes you behind the side you're currently in and swaps the view. Therefore, every area without solid blocks or backdrops are strictly symmetrical, while the others have differences you have to use to progress.

Obviously, this gimmick is ideal for haunted mansions: at the beginning of the level, you get trapped into a mansion, and have to explore its every corners to find all key coins and escape. To balance the recto/verso gimmick which is already complex in itself, everything else is quite straightforward to stays accessible and fun, the level being mostly a simple and atmospheric exploration/platforming stage. You can explore the mansion freely (it works like a hub), there is no specific order for collecting the coins. There is (nearly) no powerup, but only five coins to collect, and a save point keeps your key coin progression - keep the coin that is the closest to the exit door for last, so you don't get killed with the key and have to redo everything.

I spent a lot of time on architecture, visuals, variety, challenge balance and flow, I hope you'll enjoy it.

The previous level in the "series":

The two levels are quite different apart from using the same gimmick, and I like it like that. I don't think I'll do a third one (it's complicated to make, and I don't think it'd be possible to make something different a third time).

About:

Thanks a lot! I'm planning to do sequels!

Thank you!

Thanks! Fun detail: even though the level has been made to be accessible for beginners, you can actually run from start to finish in this level (it's achievable in 24s).

Feedback (I had a lot to catch up):

Visually it's really unpolished and it's weird to put a P-switch right next to a P-door (what's the point), but it's fun until the poison water raising and lowering: it gets WAY too slow at this point. You can speed up the water by holding or touching the water arrow, I believe.

At first, when I discovered the concept, I was afraid if would be frustrating, but it's very fun, the level is pretty, and the challenge is well made and clear. In the parts where there are two "trains", it requires several attempts to synchronize them properly, but not to the point where it'd get frustrating. Well done!

In the SM3DW style, it's hard to tell which way the conveyor belts are running, and the level is rather frustrating IMHO.

The first battles are very basic, and in the last ones, there's infinite Fire Flowers, so no challenge... also, you should isolate giant Bowser so his breath doesn't interfere.

I like the purity of your level. I couldn't beat it because it's extremely tight (nearly nobody did, apparently), but I still liked it.

There are still some issues IMHO - don't get discouraged, this is normal.

• On the beat block section, there is no clue at all about the emplacement of the lava bubbles - since the blocks are very low, it's impossible to avoid them.
• After this section, I used the cat costume to climb up the secret area. I got to the checkpoint, but I thought the right way was in the clear pipe, which led me to fall and die directly.
• The boss battle puts you with two bosses in a very narrow room with no level design and infinite powerups. If you have to have infinite powerups to beat a boss, then it's not balanced correctly.

In the first challenges, the floor is very low. Since we're in the ship layout, which oscillates the camera, we just can't see where the enemies are.

Then, we directly go to three Hammer Bros. It's a bit brutal. You could put boxes/bricks below the Hammer Bros. (at least two of them) so we can neutralize them from below.

The level is fun, but a bit chaotic. Did you know you could lock the scrolling with columns or rows of ground/hard blocks going all the way? Also, I wonder if the references wouldn't work better in the SMB style.

Really fun level, with a good atmosphere that brings good memories of the original game (SMW).

It's a very clever boss, but why doesn't the final door lead to the end directly? In my first run, I didn't understand which way I was supposed to go, I went down and got stuck - I had to redo everything. IMHO, this will hurt your level (I still liked it, it's clever and fun).

Not my favourite among your levels. We don't have enough vertical visibility to aim properly, and sometimes the Wigglers step down from platforms and create complicated situations.

I had a lot of fun! The level is pretty, with very clear level design, the challenge is balanced and varied. The only area I don't find very useful is the one where you only have to run against conveyor belts, it slows the pacing down and presents no challenge.

The "underwater" part is maybe a bit slow, we can avoid easily most hazards, but it's pleasant.

Some areas seem designed to frustrate the player, and it's a shame because there is a lot of fun ideas there. It'd be a lot better with smoother flow and less punishment.

SMM2 has too much delay between deaths for finicky die & retry stuff IMHO.

Nice Lemmings stage with a good presentation!

Absolutely great level, it looks gorgeous and the gameplay is varied and excellent.

Two remarks: couldn't the Koopa dispensers be replaced advantageously by Buzzy helmet dispensers? Buzzy helmet dispensers release only one shell/helmet and are relatively harmless, whereas picking a Koopa shell near a dispenser is dangerous and could make people retry the level after a mistake, which is tedious in a puzzle level. And then, I enjoyed and had no trouble at the last part after the locked door (I loved King Boo, who I recognized immediately), but I wondered if it's possible to get stuck in this section (I used Racoon Mario to break a wall).

Nice, relaxing level! I liked it!