Topic: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

I wish they had used George Lucas' original treatment for the sequels which he graciously offered to Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams, but Abrams arrogantly pitched it aside and tried to write his own story using his trademark "just make it up as you go" approach, which I suppose worked okay for his television series like Alias and Lost but is the completely wrong approach for a film trilogy.

@Snaplocket The scenes on Endor kind of drag it down a bit, and, personally, I think the Death Star should have stayed a one-off plot device. And I think Rogue One is immune to that latter criticism because the film concerns itself WITH the plans for that first Death Star.

So, it lacks RotJ's pacing issues, and I really like the grounded and kind of oppressive tone of it. Very unique for a Star Wars film, IMO. The dark vibe of the climax is at least tempered by the viewer's knowledge of the rebellion's victory in ANH, which allows the film to be tragic without falling into full hopelessness.

I still like RotJ, of course. All of the original trilogy films are great-to-decent.

@Ralizah Return of the Jedi is an odd one for me. It's my least favorite of the original six Star Wars films, and yet the scenes in Palpatine's throne room are among the best in the entire saga as you see Anakin's character arc come full circle. It almost feels like two different films crammed together with the silliness of Jabba's Palace and the Ewoks versus the deadly seriousness aboard the Death Star.

@Mountain_Man Episodes III - VI all have really strong climaxes, honestly. It's part of why people love these movies.

Rogue One? That movie was surprisingly good actually. It had this presentation about it that really screamed "this is a new story but a captivating one". Plus the visuals are so nice. Some of the shots in that movie are amazing, such as when broken chunks of a planet are rising up towards the Death Star. I think it's in the better part of the Star Wars films; better than I, II and IX.

@Mountain_Man I thought the series went in an interesting direction after VIII but IX really ruined it for me. It was like two children fighting over toys, except at the end poor little JJ just threw all the toys away instead of coming to a peaceful compromise.

I thought Rogue One was basically Star Wars does The Dirty Dozen.

Still, I guess that's a better premise than any of the other Disney movies had.

Star Wars movies are boring lol.

I gotta be honest, trying to slowly watch the original trilogy finally (movies too spoiled for me to especially care about, is what I found out), failing to watch TFA all the way through, between two years of TLJ internet drama made the utter failing of ROS glorious. Disney failing is objectively good (much as I like animated films and...parts of the MCU), and watching all this drama lead to a meaningless trash movie was a delight.

I kinda liked the Prequel movies growing up, but my movie taste growing up was awful so that means nothing. I mostly just like Star Wars aesthetically, and it did lead to quality games. Honestly, mostly the same with James Bond (right down to my main exposure to the movies being bad ones from 20 years ago), I just like the quality games to come from it, and its a good IP for games.

I assumed I didn't get into KOTOR back in the day partially because it had a slow start, like RPGs often do. But maybe I just don't care about Star Wars stories in general for whatever reason.

@kkslider5552000
When you are talking about aesthetics in space Sci-Fi movies, most of them took inspiration from Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, a film that looks great but of which I haven't grasped its main message to this day.
Who knows? Maybe it doesn't have one, could be like Kubrick conceived it like an abstract painting everyone can put their own interpretation on.

@ophone
I think he was going for "don't put all our trust in technology as we may accidentally be the orchestrators of our own demise", or something along those lines. Naughty Hal.

So... as far as the game goes, I had forgotten how uneven the difficulty was. Seems like you'll mop the floor with one group of enemies, and then a short while later get your backside handed to you by another group. It really doesn't help that the enemy AI seems much better at fighting than your companions who cheerfully run into the middle of a mob and get themselves surrounded. Is there a way to order your squad to focus on the enemy you're attacking?

At least you can save right at the start of combat so you can easily reload for another try.

@Mountain_Man When the game auto pauses from an enemy sighting, I usually cycle through each party member and focus their attack on the same enemy. Most of the time if you get them off to that start, they will follow you through the rest of the enemies themselves.

Of course if you want, you can pause at any time mid combat and line up specific attacks on specific enemies. Even though this could get tedious, I actually find myself enjoying that approach as it gives you full control of the action.

Also, I think there is a setting called "Scripts". If I remember correctly it can be found on the character alignment page. You can "sort of" adjust their behavior settings to have companions use primarily default, Jedi, or grenade attacks. I never messed around with those too much though... But It's easy to miss that setting, so I thought I'd mention it!

@E_Gadds_Garage Yes, I'm aware you can pause and micromanage your squad. As I recall, I had to do the exact same thing when I first played on PC many years ago (and later with Dragon Age: Origins). But I would really like an "Everybody attack this dude!" button.

NO! NO, NO, GOD NO!

I've been waiting for this remake FOREVER! Christ!

As if 2022 couldn't get any worse.

Sigh. Alright, look, my kneejerk reaction aside, if it at least has a delayed release date, I'd be fine with that. So hopefully, we could get a new release date down the line. Just don't cancel it, PLEASE! I wanted to experience one of the greatest Star Wars stories ever told in HD/4K graphics. Call me shallow or whatever, but PLEASE! lol

Honestly, I can't believe how cursed it is for me to just stumble onto this news. I was literally just searching "kotor remake" because I wanted to see what's going on with it (even though I'm not even a big Star Wars fan who religiously follow the kotor news), and I stumbled onto this news released less than 24 hours ago. It's heartbreaking because I doubt I'd ever play the original kotor with its dated graphics and awkward gameplay, and now I never will.

Many popular game franchises like FFVII and Resident Evil, I'm glad for their remakes and remasters so that I could get a chance to see what the big deal is all about in all new shiny graphics, but kotor is unfortunately off the list.

And look, even if we put aside the fact that "you could just play the original kotor," this was supposed to be a massive, massive tribute to one of the most well-written Star Wars lore. I just think it's a grave tragedy to cancel such a celebration of a Star Wars milestone. Think of how many people have been waiting for this remaster because of their love for both Star Wars and KotOR. It isn't just a remaster, it's a reminder of how great kotor was and what it offered to the Star Wars community. It would've brought both old and new Star Wars fans alike together. That's why I feel so devastated about it because it's not just another cancelled game, but something that could've easily brought forth a new pop culture zeitgeist the likes of A New Hope's release back in 1977.

Here's the full article from Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-26/star-wars-...

I don't care if it's delayed until 2025, 2028, 2030 - just please, please don't cancel it!

@Link-Hero Yeah, okay. I'll give the PC version a try. I've been meaning to get around to the game someday, but I just never found the right time (or mood). lol

@Link-Hero Thanks. Appreciate the help. I currently have a custom PC which runs pretty fast for modern games, so I guess that technically counts as current hardware to some extent (I had someone built it about a year ago).

@Maxenmus Has it been officially delayed? I mean, Bloomberg haven't exactly been accurate with some of their gaming stories - weren't they the ones that were saying Switch pro was definitely coming last year? I'm not saying it's not true, but I'd take most of what Bloomberg say with a huge pinch of salt until it's confirmed elsewhere

@dmcc0 Yeah, probably. I'm hoping it's not true too, but almost every news outlet is reporting the same thing now, so my hopes aren't high.

@Maxenmus I'm not saying you're wrong but most news articles just copy what the other says for click bait and views

I'm just trying to be hopeful as it's my all time fave game so I'd love to see it remastered

I was first thinking: We get the original while the other consoles get the remake. It annoyed me a bit. But now I heard the remake is in development hell, so maybe I should just go for the original somewhere in the future.

Did knights of the old Republic ever get a physical release in the US?
I can't seem to find a copy.
I have Racer/Commando and Jedi Knight physical releases.

If not in the US, did any country get an English friendly release?