Topic: So NX Is A Home Console Afterall?

Given the NX will likely be a bit above 3DS in power I don't think dev times need to be that long, besides they'll have the entire Android 3rd party library at launch and in the future to keep the system flush with software that will appeal to their target market. I also rather doubt you'll have any kind of video out port on the device itself; more likely a module that video gets streamed to using something high-density like WiFi - it might even support AirPlay and work with devices like AppleTV to appeal to a broader range of consumers.

If the rumors are to be believed, I think it'll be a portable/handheld console.

I mean, what have the rumors said so far...?

• July 2016 launch
• $150 price point

And with what we actually know with confirmation from Nintendo...?

• Dedicated Game Platform
• DeNA deal

I bring up the rumored release because while Nintendo's home consoles typically launch in Fall/Winter (for NA and JP), their handhelds have launched more often around Spring/Summer with the 3DS launching in March. A July release would be just fine for a portable console.
On top of that, by 2016, the 3DS will be 5 years old and the New 3DS revision will have had its time (like the DSi before it and the GBA SP before THAT).

If it is a home console, I'll be surprised.

Also, to everyone holding on to the "console" bit that Reggie said to give the home console argument some legs, you know they're called portable/handheld consoles, too, right? Not saying there's absolutely no way it'll be a home console, just saying the word "console" doesn't necessarily mean it'll be one.

If NX is a console, sounds like it'll be to Wii U what Wii was to GameCube. Repackaged, a bit more powerful with some new gimmick. I can see this. Yes it wouldn't be competing with ps4 and xbone but Nintendo doesn't care. They're a different market now. Their own niche.

I know fans like backing up the Wii U, but as a business point of view, the system is a headache for them, and they probably would want to just move past it. I like the system, but it's lacking so much and I don't feel that it'll ever pick up enough grace to keep it going for a few more years. I think, after the E3 showing, they're just making enough games to keep people happy with it, so we know that we didn't just invest of all the money into it to be left down. This kind of stuff didn't bother me...I have a dreamcast, and that ended fast, but I still play and enjoy it, so why should people be disappointed in the Wii U...if you'll find yourselves enjoying it 10 years or so down the road, then we've got our money's worth out of it...the only thing that I see happening, is the screen dying on the controller, and the system won't work after that, but that's yet to be seen. I know they're not making the big budget games, but, do you really blame them, when that game could flop or not give them the money that they'd be hoping for? If their next system does well, and gets a stronger fan base and install base, I could see the bigger games coming and a better E-Shop line up of games too, which could mean more N64 titles, and what they announced for the first year in the Wii U's life...gamecube games could finally come. They just need to make a normal controller for gamers to come back to their love. I hate to say this, as I love nintendo and have been a fan of theirs since Atari and their Cassette Tape Music labels...this next system will make or break them.

i just hope we will get a new handheld from nintendo. that would get 3rd party support. a new nintendo console propabably not if it isnt on pair with xboxone and ps4

Whatever the gimmick is, be it handheld or portable, I hope it's simple and practical.

@JLPick: Oh yea. I mean, if this rumor turns out to be true, and we have a new "console" on our hands around this time next year, I wouldn't be upset with my Wii U purchase at all. I got TONS of gaming out of this puppy - I put more hours into Mario Kart 8 than any game in recent memory (probably have to go back to Ocarina or FF Tactics...or World of Warcraft lol). My friends and I had a blast with the party games from time to time, and the Windwaker remake finally gave me a chance to beat the only Zelda game I never gave its proper due. This system really did have a ton of games on it for anybody willing to look past the garbage the internet loved to spout about it.

This. The wii U reputation being down is nothing but over repeated internet sentiment based on other peoples nothing. The console is great, the library is great, there's lots of fun and there was lots of fun from day 1.

I understand the business sentiment is down, but I don't care for my enjoyment, only for figuring out what might be next and when. All good times for me as a nintendo fan - as a gamer, the wii U is definitely great. It'll be replaced sooner because of that business element to it, but as a gamer, the wii U has been consistently awesome.

What if NX really turns out to be a 3rd pillar micro console like PSTV?

This is a very logical outcome. I'd probably stick with my Wii U and 3DS if that were the case, though (I know nothing about PSTV).

This, so much.
Everyone is ignoring NX was mentioned as a "third pillar", namely because they (understandably and realistically) expect it replace something.
But if it home console, why would Nintendo mention continued 3DS support? Would that be a given then?
There's definitely more to this.

@iKhan: My first question would be, what this would do for them? The PSV is the niche version of a niche console, and it's selling accordingly, which kinda leads to my second question, how are they going to sell a third console to people?
The WiiU would still be mess, they would have to support a forth platform with software besides the WiiU, 3DS and mobil, and potentially, they would compete against themselves. I also fail to see how this would inspire any revival of third party support.

PSTV is basically a way to play Vita games on the big screen so if applied to Nintendo it would be a way to play 3DS games on the big screen.

@Ralek85: Well it wouldn't do much for them, but they wouldn't have to support it. It would basically just play VC games, eShop games, and 3DS games.

I don't think it's a particularly good idea, but if it's a home console that costs $150 and launches in July, I don't see any other possibility.

@iKhan: I don't know, seems like a very bad idea from where I stand. Just as with the PSTV, I'm not sure who could even be the target audience of such a device. 3DS games blown up on a TV look horrible, and at $150 bucks it's not exactly a sweet deal. I've seen WiiU basic sets going for around 190€ around here, and at $150 a (N)3DS seems like the way more versatile option. Best case scenario would be that they are cutting into their own 3DS/Wii sales, for a very select few who want to only play "VC games, eShop games, and 3DS games" (thus forgo a couple more bucks for a WiiU), who don't want to own a handheld (for whatever reason), who don't already own both or either devices (and still are interested in Nintendo gams) ... that cannot possibly leave a significant number of potential consumers.
You are missing a crucial point about the PSTV. Sony allows for their content to be used on multiple systems, and since account sharing is not feasible on the Vita (you'd have to switch cards everytime), most people probablyy have licenses left on their psp/vita purchases, so they can use them on a PSTV without any extra cost, plus the device works as a streaming box, even as a "remote" PS4. Nintendo has no such infrastructure and account system set up, and streaming is not that much of an option, at least with games you need a gamepad for (which on top of that, is already a streaming/2nd screen feature).

The $150 part of the rumor makes me believe it's actually phase one of a new fusion console, as in the handheld part of it, with the home console part launched at a later date - at least assuming the price turns out to be true. I still think this sounds way to fishy, the price as well as the speculated shipping and launch dates, but we'll see. A PSTV would be a waste of money and ressources, even more than the PSTV was, which is a neat trick on it's own ^^

@iKhan: the 150 dollar rumour was from a blog. A blog with 2 blog posts. And the other talked about diddy kong racing on the wii u. It doesn't seem to have much to stand on.

Very possible. I don't know how much it would help Nintendo on the business side of things, though. It would present literally zero appeal to those who haven't already bought into the Wii U or 3DS... which is a lot of people lol

But again, it is very possible due to the "third pillar" dialogue that has been floating around.

They used the "third pillar" line with the DS even though it made the GBA obsolete. I wouldn't put much stock in it being an actual third pillar.

Ah, really? Interesting. I wasn't really gaming on Nintendo consoles around the DS times, so I didn't know about that. Very interesting, actually...