Can you take a look and tell me if the textures that are in areas like the sacred grounds and such are updated? I don’t care about the ground cause it looks the same but the wall textures look pretty significantly different. I’d greatly appreciate if you could try and come up with the same result to see if they actually did redraw them@Dezzy
Don't have enough clear footage yet to know about all areas but all I can say for sure is they've definitely updated some of the environment textures. These look twice the original resolution, same as the updates to the character textures.
My assumption is that everything has just been doubled (why would they randomly pick out a mushroom texture as something important to improve?), but that it won't necessarily be that obvious in some cases. The machine-learning upscaling algorithms work really well in the 512-2048 pixel range (for a texture with an average amount of detail). Unfortunately most of the textures in the original Skyward Sword are either 256 pixels or 128 pixels, so there's probably not much the upscaling algorithms can do with some of them.
Even if the timeline doesn't mean anything to the game, it also makes sense to me as well. It was the main reason I got into diving deep into the Zelda lore, and it's just a fun thing to think about. Sure, it's a last minute thought for Nintendo, but if it didn't mean anything at all, they would've dropped it right after Skyward Sword... however, they didn't, and still haven't as it's still up on the official Zelda website for Nintendo of Japan, and they're still updating it with each new game, despite BotW not being directly on the timeline.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
So it’s using machine algorithms to double the texture res?@Dezzy
Impossible to know for sure. You can't reverse-engineer those algorithms because they all behave slightly differently depending on the datasets they "learn" from.
It definitely looks like it to me though. If they'd done it by hand, you'd generally expect to see some differences in the details between the textures (like you did in Twilight Princess HD and Xenoblade:DE).
If you're looking at something like a brick wall texture and they've added something like a big crack across one of the bricks, that's almost definitely a human artist not an AI. An AI would only know to do something like that if you deliberately trained it on cracked brick textures (which you'd be unlikely to do). So if you can't see anything like that, and all of the textures look very close to identical to the originals, then they probably used an AI.
Well oh well I guess. There really isn’t much you can with do ss textures so with ai then look good enough. However dynamic shadows and slightly tweaked lighting could’ve gone a long way@Dezzy
As NLife have pointed out in their recent youtube videos, another improvement this version seems to have is the ability to control the camera. How do people think that will actually work in the handheld mode? They should just have it so that holding down R1 switches to sword mode, or something like that.
The camera control is huge. It’s one of those things we take for granted, until we don’t have it and suddenly realize how annoying it is.
I think holding a shoulder button to activate sword mode for handheld would be a good option. Or, have sword mode only activate when Z-targeting or holding the button for Z-targeting. But, worst case scenario it still functions like the original in handheld, but we get camera control when playing with joycon. Either way that’s a win
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
I hope not, I'm trying to avoid using joycons as much as possible to limit the drifting. I really don't think they'd leave a feature out of the handheld mode. I mean they've kinda marketed Switch more as a handheld at this point in time, what with the Lite and now the OLED version (I guess that can be played with joycon, I just don't know many people who do that), they can't really make that version functionally inferior, surely?
@Dezzy
I don’t think they will, but I’m looking at this as a baseline win. At the bare minimum, we at least have camera when using motion (and maybe even in handheld, probably anyways). Skyward sword is a game I will indeed play handheld, however, I will be using docked and tabletop as much as possible. The game really was designed around motion. Plus, I use tabletop a lot anyways. It’s just a much more luxurious portable gaming experience than handheld alone.
Btw, I feel kind of bad seeing people limit their experiences out of fear of drift. Not that that fear isn’t warranted, it certainly is. But at least personally speaking, I would never let that impact how I enjoy games. If I get drift down the line, so be it. Nothing a can of compressed air can’t likely fix, and if not, worst case I send it in. I’ve got plenty of other joycon to use in the meantime, and even if I didn’t, I’d just buy a backup for 35 bucks.
But all of that can be negated entirely using Binbok joycon. More ergonomic, has a D pad, still wireless, gyro is just as good, analogs have wider range, and they’re cheaper. Food for thought.
My brother told me he hated playing on his Switch because his launch joycon got drift. Apparently he’d been putting up with it for half a year. I was like, why didn’t you just pop $35 for a replacement, or send it in? So I gave him a spare set I had, and now he’s gaming on it all the time again.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
Part of my issue is that I replaced my joycon shells with these cool transparent-black ones, and it was an absolute nightmare to get them put back together properly, so I'm really trying to limit how much I need to reopen them. Contact cleaner and compressed air often work, but sometimes you do just need to change the stick, so I'm trying to avoid that as much as possible.
@Dezzy
Sounds like a pain. It may not be exactly exactly same but, I felt the same way with modding my 3DS. The one I had got it's screen scratched (I ultimately paid to have the screen replaced but this was before that), but I had a backup, and just didn't want to deal with the hassle.
Still, I really do recommend checking out these Binbok. Best $50 I ever spent on Switch related product. By far.
Oh snap, and they're on sale for $38!!! If that's not a universal sign Idk what is 😀
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
Cool, those look good. Not currently available on the UK page though. I might grab them in the future if they become available again.
They're nicer aesthetically than most of the third party joycons too. And do they have all of the same functions as the official ones?
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