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FGPackers

Yeah i liked it too, it is hands down one of my personal top 3 Zelda. But i hope they don't make it soon and that's why: we are going to get the most epic, great and large Zelda ever and i feel like if they release an HD version of SS in 2018 it can sort of put BOTW down. Let's experience BOTW and hope for another big one, we have a lot of time for remakes. There's no need to "rush it" just a year after BOTW

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DJaa

@FGPackers I think it made me especially realise it after the HD remakes of windwaker and twilight princess.

For example I appreciated ocarina of time and majora's mask more after replaying them on 3DS

But replaying both windwaker and twilight princess made me realize that skyward sword is a lot better than those 2 games in gameplay. The dungeons and puzzles are simply excellent in skyward sword. Never a dull moment from the moment you land and you travel to the next dungeon till the end of t hat dungeon. It's more linear yes, but why should I care when every moment has me invested to that extent.. I really liked it.

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kkslider5552000

I kinda agree, except I think TP's dungeons are significantly better than Wind Waker's. And honestly outside of being slightly less linear and the difference in how motion controls are utilized (see: a replacement for a button vs actually designed for it), I actually think Twilight Princess is easily the most similar to Skyward Sword tbh.

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@DJaa @kkslider5552000 infact TP and WW are the other 2 of my top 3. I really liked all this Zelda games a lot in every aspect, and i would love a SS HD with HD rumble and joy-cons, but i don't feel a real SS need when BOTW is approaching. I would prefer it to come maybe at around 2020 while waiting for next Zelda, that's it

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StuTwo

One of the surprising things to me in this thread is the negativity about the idea that Nintendo might release a HD remake of Skyward Sword any time soon. To me it seems like a no-brainer to do it soon - even if it's not close to being my favourite Zelda game and I have many criticisms of it.

I mean which set of article headlines do you want to be reading next March/April:

"Another month with no retail Switch releases - it's the Wii U all over again"
"Switch is great... but Nintendo clearly can't get enough games out"
"Why are we paying £80 for advanced motion control JoyCons when even Nintendo hasn't released anything that uses them since the launch window?"
"Joy-Con gimmick shows Nintendo doesn't even know how to use their own ideas - it's a Wii U tablet 2.0"

or

"Nintendo finally re-releases my personal favourite Zelda game of all!"
"A pleasant surprise: I've re-evaluated Skyward Sword and it isn't as bad as I remember"
"Wow - Skyward Sword looks FANTASTIC in HD"
"7 years later and Skyward Sword shows why it's still the ultimate motion controlled game"
"My Wiimote never worked properly with Skyward Sword but the Joy-Cons are perfect for it"

Even "Meh - the only Switch game this month is the worst Zelda game in HD" is better than "Nintendo has FAILED YOU - another month without any new games" (and history shows that we should all be prepared for articles like from certain quarters a year from now).

I definitely think Skyward Sword HD fits much better than releasing a new 2D Zelda in 2018 or beyond. I love 2D Zelda games (overall I think I prefer them to the 3D games) but a 2D Zelda would be used by the gaming media to scream from the rooftops "Switch is a mega expensive handheld with primitive games that could be done on a 2010 Android phone". Even though many will use it as a handheld they need to project certain things about Switch - that it belongs under your TV, that the motion controls add value and aren't just driving up the price for no reason and that Nintendo will support it with a steady stream of big substantial games (which is only possible if they seed the field with ports and remakes).

Of course personally I don't think I'd buy it...

...Unless they pack in gold coloured Zelda themed JoyCons in which case they can take my money now.

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DJaa

^It could be a nobrainer especially if the switch motion controls are a lot better than wii motion plus. At least I hope so

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FGPackers

Switch HD rumble should be (and i think so) way better than Wii motion controls, i don't think there's any doubt about it.

But @StuTwo if we need a game to prove the HD rumble and motions controls i don't think we should count on a game that is only 2 gens old and that has less than a 10 year life span and that can easily be bought on the Wii U VC. I think we should point at other franchises like a new "Metroid Prime" type of game (after Fusion on the timeline would be perfect to me) that can use BOTH controllers (the right for shooting and the left for the grapple beam maybe). I used this just to make an EASY example, it can be anything to me, just not a SS HD

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Luna_110

@StuTwo
I think the problem may be in that SS is one of the most divisive Zelda's and that they don't want ports. I know they pad out the release schedule, but a lot of people bought SS since the Wii had a far bigger attach rate, and they could replay it on the Wii U.

What would you prefer, that they use resources (even if they're external) in porting a game or try to push something new, like Arms or the Snipper game? I prefer the second.

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Octane

Don't really want to waggle my way through this game again, so I wouldn't buy it.

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Joeynator3000

Octane wrote:

Don't really want to waggle my way through this game again, so I wouldn't buy it.

You're thinking of Twilight Princess Wii.

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Octane

@Tsurii Worked perfectly fine in other motion control games though.

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...I get a notification saying Octane mentioned me...yet his post mentions Tsurii...and wasn't edited. Wat?

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Octane

@Joeynator3000 I made a stupid joke about TP, then I realised you specifically mentioned ''Wii'', and I decided it was best to delete my post, so that I wouldn't look like a complete fool...

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blaisedinsd

Skyward sword is the best 3D Zelda game so far so this would be cool. I have a hard time thinking this open world breath of the wild experiment can surpass the greatness of skyward sword

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Joeynator3000

@Octane Darn, I wanted to see it. TwT

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That-crazy-guy

One main issue i see with a HD remake of skyward sword is how the motion consoles where part of the battle system including bosses. So they would also have to redesign the entire battle system, and make two modes for the ones that liked the system as is.

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dtjive

@StuTwo

Jumping down a lot of rabbit holes with your argument there Stu. Why couldn't the headline be "SS HD reminds us why we had had enough of motion controls". You seem to be suggesting that a SS remake would definitely be a success, and that not releasing it would be a failure.

I think the point most on here are making is that they'd rather Nintendo invest their time (or other developers time) on making something else. Whether that is re-using the engine/assets of BotW to achieve a new Zelda within 2/3 years ala MM style, or a brand new 2D Zelda.

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StuTwo

dtjive wrote:

@StuTwo

Jumping down a lot of rabbit holes with your argument there Stu.

Of course - and an element of it is playing devils advocate. Like all conversations it could be very short if we wanted it to be but I think there's a lot of potentially interesting territory just surrounding this topic which is why I raised it in the first place.

Why couldn't the headline be "SS HD reminds us why we had had enough of motion controls". You seem to be suggesting that a SS remake would definitely be a success, and that not releasing it would be a failure.

I don't think it would necessarily be a definite success. The point I'm making is that there will be editorials from some outlets that Nintendo has failed to demonstrate why motion controls matter and why we should pay extra for them. Even worse there will be editorials saying that Nintendo has basically abandoned their great idea (again) - a line that feeds into the "gimmick myth" and makes it more difficult to sell Nintendo consoles in the future.

Skyward Sword HD would be a pre-emptive answer to that. Is it the only answer? No. Is it the absolute best answer? Maybe not but it is a powerful answer.

Skyward Sword remains perhaps the most ambitious motion controlled game yet attempted. It will be re-released in the future at some point in some form (it's pretty much guaranteed) so why not pick the most advantageous time to re-release it in a way that reinforces your marketing message?

I think the point most on here are making is that they'd rather Nintendo invest their time (or other developers time) on making something else. Whether that is re-using the engine/assets of BotW to achieve a new Zelda within 2/3 years ala MM style, or a brand new 2D Zelda.

Why not both? Seriously there is no shortage of external contract programming houses (like Tantalus who made TP HD) who could turn around a Skyward Sword HD with minimal oversight from Nintendo. It's not something that would necessarily detract from anything that Nintendo were doing themselves and it could be turned around more quickly and reliably than a new Zelda game - even a MM style re purposing of existing assets.

I think they'll definitely want to release something Zelda related in 2018 and, under the circumstances SS HD seems like the option that would be best received with the added benefit of reinforcing the motion control angle.

Personally I'd rather see a new Four Swords Adventure for Switch - it could fit in nicely as an example of local multiplayer. But that would be a new game, obviously a lot more work and I don't think it would generate as much excitement for Switch as SS HD would - especially after TriForce Heroes.

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CDavis7M

It would be amazing to have Skyward Sword HD. Some people are complaining about remakes, but these remakes are great for lapsed Nintendo fans like myself. I stopped after N64 and never finished Majora's Mask. On my 3DS I've been able to play Zelda, Zelda II, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Link's Awakening, Oracle of Ages & Seasons, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, and A Link Between Worlds. Recently I was able to borrow a Wii U and now I can play Minish Cap, Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Skyward Sword Wii. In fact, I believe that Wii U can now play every Zelda game except for A Link Between Worlds.

It would be great to see the Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword ported to Switch over time.

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StuTwo wrote:

Why not both? Seriously there is no shortage of external contract programming houses (like Tantalus who made TP HD) who could turn around a Skyward Sword HD with minimal oversight from Nintendo. It's not something that would necessarily detract from anything that Nintendo were doing themselves and it could be turned around more quickly and reliably than a new Zelda game - even a MM style re purposing of existing assets.

Personally I'd rather see a new Four Swords Adventure for Switch - it could fit in nicely as an example of local multiplayer. But that would be a new game, obviously a lot more work and I don't think it would generate as much excitement for Switch as SS HD would - especially after TriForce Heroes.

I definitely agree about remakes not detracting from Nintendo's development. I believe that Grezzo developed all the 3DS remakes.

And yeah, 4Swords/TriForce Heroes would be amazing for Switch!

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