Disclaimer: The reason of why the subject title is weird is because i already made my predictions but after some time i changed my mind about it
Hello, how are you doing? I hope you are doing fine
It has passed 3 weeks since The Aegis blades Pyra and Mythra got in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as part of the 11.0.0 update.
That is right, the 11.0 update. We have come a long way since the base game (something some games are not able to say). Sadly, nothing last forever.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Fighter Pass Vol. 2 has only 2 Challenger Packs left (10 and 11 respectively), even the most recent "Mr. Sakurai Presents" has remembered that fact, which sucks because that means that we will most likely not going to have more content after the last 2 fighters, or we will going to have? Just think about it, the datamined 16 to 30 slots for both fighters and color variations that were slowly getting filled with each fighter that got into the roster but after the last 2 there will still be 4 fighter slots empty, the extra spaces in the Fighter Select Screen and the Stage Select Screen which makes us think that after the last 2 Challenger Packs there will be 3 more announced and a standalone fighter on top of it (just like pirahna plant) and the fact that in the 3DS And Wii U era, they basically made those smash games practically impossible to further Upgrade. There is a good chance of more content after the last 2 fighters, but what could possibly be that content, well, frankly, i have no idea, and i do not want to risk getting in jail trying to steal that locked drawer
But that does not stop me from trying to guess what character could be in that 50% possible third pass (trying to guess fighters for the Fighter Pass Vol. 2 when there is only 2 fighters left is kinda boring)
Quite frankly, i think that the third pass is going to be something like a pass for echo fighters (the reason for that is because i find weird that they still did not use the term echo fighter to make extra money having the capacity of doing it and nintendo never hides the fact that they want to make money even in the cheapest way possible, although, to be fair, if i was an enterprise i would do that for the sake of easy money because it works, also, the fact that the development team while passionate it is also tired of working in the game because they worked on the same series counting games and dlc for over 10 years continously without stopping or any rest so maybe an echo fighter pass would be the best option since they can re use animations, models and moves, making things a lot easier) and it would be called something like Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Echo Fighter Pass, which will only have 3 Challenger Packs but instead of having a mii costume as a bonus like how the other passes did, the bonus is going to be a standalone fighter (not echo) instead (just the fighter, no stage or music). Even better would be something like Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Echo Fighter Bundle. Instead of a pass were the Challenger Packs are released periodically, every pack is released at the same time alongside the bonus (because these are echo fighters, i think giving breathing room to their releases is not a good idea, since the hype for an echo fighter is not big enough to make huge expectations, it is far from an non echo fighter hype, let alone a third party)
Now, about those 3 echo fighters, i thought about characters that would be easy to make using moves from other fighters and then evaluate how easy is to get the rights of those characters, but also i needed to be careful of what characters to choose because sometimes limiting a character to just be like another existing character can be an insult to that character and the potential it has (not to mention some fans are going to get pissed for that insult also) so i needed to think 3 times before choosing them, i almost did not got all of them but i managed to make it, but before telling you what videogame characters i think are going to be echo fighters i am going to make a couple of honorable mentions who almost managed to get in the list. First, shadow the hedgehog and blaze the cat, both characters that would be perfect echo fighters for sonic if it was not by the fact that shadow is an assist trophy, blaze is so irrelevant nowdays to the point were she was abscent in the latest main sonic game and sega is a bit stingy with the rights (which caused the lack of remixes of the songs), then there is the octolings were i though that maybe they would be a perfect echo for the inklings but a neat detail of inkling is the fact that each Color Variation there was a different color of ink so every player had a different color, and there is not that many different ink colors in splatoon, there was just enough to make one fighter with 8 color variations, let alone 2 fighters with 8 color variations each, not to mention that the different ink colors were implemented so if 2 inklings attack the same opponent you could see who has the lead, in other words, it was a part of their design that complemented the gameplay and that it would be ruined with the octolings repeating the same colors as the inklings, after that there is dixie kong which i initially believed it would be a good echo fighter for diddy kong but then i replayed Donkey Kong Country 2 and realized that those 2 had a different enough playstyle (having fast but more technical gameplay as diddy and having a slower but easier time as dixie), also i though of a lot of megaman characters that had potential to be great echo fighters of megaman, or at least that was what i though until i started to examinate them more deeply and then i realized they would not work), lastly, there is gooey and TAC which i though that they would be perfect echo fighters for kirby based on their roles in the main games except that on the surface they are the same but they have big differences deep in themselves (especially tac) and in modern kirby games those characters are portrayed different from a simple kirby clone (especially gooey), now without further ado, we will start with the true challenger packs
Challenger Pack Ɛ1aper Mario (echo fighter of dr. mario)
I know a lot of people (if not everyone) is going to disagree so hear me out
For a series with a playability as inconsistent as paper mario, how can you represent it without elements clashing with each other? not to mention how many thing you have to represent, you have the first 2 paper mario games, you have super paper mario, you have the 3ds and wii u games and you have the latest entry, each one having big differences gameplay wise when compared to each other. Representing paper mario as a whole is impossible but the fans want him in smash so i though maybe as an echo fighter might be possible. And if you are asking "Why dr. mario and not just mario?" well, paper mario never used an equivalent to f.l.u.d.d but used the tanooki tail which is the equivalent to the cape. I must admit i almost did not include him in this list because, a plane character is a pain to put in a 3D environment (which is the reason why mr. game and watch model ingame is just a 3D model with a 2D ilusion instead of just a 2D sprite and that is the reason why mr game and watch has 2 models so that ilusion can be stronger) and with a character like paper mario that is way more detailed than Mr. Game and Watch, it is hard even for good animators (like Super Mario Glitchy 4 or just SMG4) to make it work well in a 3D environment (the evidence is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhKpdS1EQuE and here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AqHaYKVhA , and that is a problem because it means that the hitboxes and hurtboxes of his moves have a high chance of not working correctly. Fortunately, i had an idea. Maybe if we make it like Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam were various paper mario clones made the closest thing to a not plane paper mario, maybe that way the character could work, now, I know what i said that limiting a character to just be like another character can be an insult to that character, but, as i said, with the inconsistency that the paper mario series has, I do not think there is another option, i am so sorry. His stage would be a transition stage between various paper mario games so in a way you can represent every game in the series
Challenger Pack Ɛ2: Hilda (echo fighter of zelda)
A pretty obscure choice but it makes sense considering the incarnation of zelda in smash comes from the same game as hilda, and if we also consider the fact that in that game hilda is basically an alti-zelda, she has a lot of chances of getting in. She would act the same as zelda in smash except for the fact that her attacks launch you in the most unnatural angles, to references the fact that while zelda is wise, hilda is naive. Her stage would be Lorule Fields or Lorule Castle
Challenger Pack Ɛ3: Ms. Pac Man (echo fighter of pacman)
Well, this one is self explanatory. Having Bandai Namco developing smash yet only having pacman to represent the company is just odd. Ms. Pac Man would act like pac man except faster, with more versatility and combo potential but lower damage output and a recovery with way less distance and instead of three uses it has 2 or 1. Her stage would be something like pac maze and it would be a good replace for pac maze considering it is absent in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, and it would be called something like "Ms. Pac Maze".
Those are the main fighters of the pass, now, about the bonus
Bonus Standalone Fighter
Captain N
A lot of people are surprised, i was also surprised that i came up with this, but think about it, nintendo (or just sakurai) never loses a chance for a joke fighter(jigglypuff in the nintendo 64 game, pichu and mr. game and watch in melee, rob in brawl, wii fit trainer and duck hunt in the wii u and 3ds games and pirahna plant in ultimate) so if we consider the fact that this character is just a free bonus, it is the perfect chance. Much like Pit, Captain N (we will call him kevin from now on) will need a redesign because the 80s and 90s american stereotype of a gamer is so outdated. Speaking about redesign, Princess Lana was basically Palutena with a different name but it would be nice if she was an alternate appearance that is called just Lana and represents the woman gamers (of course, she will also need to be redesign because how weird for a gamer would be to wear that), and that way we would be able to have a male Captain N (kevin) and a female Captain N (Lana). Their moves would use the most generic archetypes of games (like swords and guns, maybe fists) and it would be a nice detail if a dog like duke appeared in some way (a move, the final smash or just a taunt) to reference both the show and the comic in some way. I know the rules of smash at first glance do not allow captain n as a fighter but if we have r.o.b that has an origin which is outside of a videogame then that means that the character must be originated in the videogame industry rather than just originated in a videogame). The reason why I think he deserves a place in the roster is because i think he deserves a redemption, he had a lot of wasted potential in a show that aged like milk and a comic that aged like bread, all because of the fact that the writters barely care about what were they doing and wasted a huge potential, and you know what is funny? Captain N was the first Nintendo crossover because it came 10 years before the Nintendo 64 Smash game and it ended 10 years before Melee, and everything that Smash did great Captain N did it wrong so it is hard to me to not think that Captain N was just an experiment that they made in order to create Smash. I think Captain N (both the show and the comic) had a huge potential that was wasted because of incompetent writters but Captain N does not deserve to die forgotten, it deserves to resurrect in the best way possible (getting into what he possibly created and with a huge face wash on top of it)
Well, that is everything i wanted to say. thanks for reading this and i hope i see you next time, goodbye.
There's already a Smash thread and several Smash DLC predications thread. You're more likely to get people to read your thoughts in those as the thread title is rather random and the other threads are more active.
There's already a Smash thread and several Smash DLC predications thread. You're more likely to get people to read your thoughts in those as the thread title is rather random and the other threads are more active.
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