@Flugen
It's ridiculous how they tied voice chat and some other things to cell phones. I guess I understand the thinking that most people have their phones with them 24/7, but involving another device in the playing experience is just baffling to me. The Switch is a device of flexibility and convenience. You can game on the go, take it anywhere. The most that people should need to do is plug in a set of earbuds or headphones - why also make it necessary to add a phone to the mix?
Utterly bizarre, in my opinion. If they would have kept everything on the Switch itself, I bet they would have generated A LOT more initial goodwill with their online service.
Cheaper then concurrence... Right Now, I can get a psn 1 year for 36 bucks (of course, from a reseller). I can play with multiple players in same session in the ps4 with this subscription.
To be able to play more than 1 person online in same console, at same time, example minecraft or karts, or buy or multiple accounts or the family pack (can't find a good deals for this on resellers). Exactly as same price as ps4, 1 year account.
So, at least in my case, where more than 1 player play at same time online at same console, can say, it's not cheapier. Can I have 1 recent game or voice.... or anything at all?? I don't want retro games, I'm not so nostalgic about games I never played before, we had half game free, tetris, and be able to play on third party servers.
Started out good? The only thing they started out good with, is the price. And then they revealed how voice chat works and what you get for your 20 bucks, and it was immediately clear that it was all going to be downhill from there.
They should take a good, LONG look at the competition here, and offer up their own version of modern streamed games, as well as open up their COMPLETE back catalog for online purchase, instead of drip-feeding us the same damn 8 and 16 bit games that we've already been playing (and buying) multiple times, on all the previous home and handheld systems.
In a realistic, pound for pound scenario, where price vs value is compared, Nintendo's service actually shouldn't cost more than 9 or 10 bucks, at the VERY most. It's literally of almost no value whatsoever, if you see what you get from Microsoft or Sony. Yeah, sure, both of those subscriptions are almost twice as expensive, but you get about 10 times the value in return, so the higher price is definitely worth it.
Nintendo is SO far behind the times in that respect, that it's not even funny anymore. They REALLY need to get their @ss in gear, pronto. But I'm afraid they won't and they just don't care. Not even about their old 8 and 16 bit games, because they also seem to have forgotten to add new titles to that list as well. If they keep this up, then we should not be expecting any GameCube titles or anything newer, until the next decade, and that's a VERY sad and highly pathetic conclusion to come to...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
20 bucks isn’t much for a year, but I (and I’m sure many) would rather pay double for a service that was actually supported on a monthly basis. They could either add more consoles, or just have a rotating selection of “Nindies” since they seem hesitant to let their big titles slip under 60 bucks retail.
But like you said, none of that will happen anytime soon. So we are sadly stuck with a lower cost, but basically unsupported service.
@ThanosReXXX@NotTelevision if $20 bucks is too much for you then why are you subscribing to your ISP because they aren't going to give you anything close to $20 internet. Very poor choice of words here. All sites requires subscription regardless to play on their network you think it's free then I got a great piece of land in Siberia that you can buy from for on the cheap.
@SwitchForce It's not about the amount of money itself, genius. It's because we're comparing Nintendo's offering to that of the competition. It's pretty clear that both in what you get for your money and how well the services work, Nintendo is quite a few steps behind, and that's putting it VERY mildly...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
NSO is worse in my opinion than the WII U. That's all that needs to be said. NSO is worse than one of Nintendo's worst selling consoles online service. Not only is the service worse. Now it costs money.
Yeah, I get the desire to have something new and am excited for future updates, but there's so much value in the NES/SNES app already that I have barely scratched the surface with. Count me as someone who thinks there's a good amount of value (not to mention, it's just the cost of admission to play all the online games I enjoy with my friends).
I can't complain too much for the cost. That said, it would be nice if they threw a few more bones, like discounts for subscribers and maybe some Street Pass type minigames.
@NotTelevision
I think the idea of rotating Nindies would be awesome. But we know Nintendo... there would have to be some kind of catch. For 20 bucks a year I could understand each Nindie would be free for only that month. I'd be cool with that, though.
Something else I think they should do: You subscribe to NSO for one year, you get the current NES/SNES library on offer permanently. Even if you unsub next year, you still get to keep whatever NES/SNES games were offered as of your last day. Would be a nice little bone to throw out there. And if they build the library up substantially in the future, well then you have an incentive for people to sub again to get the new games they might want.
Oh, and the cloud service should also be a permanent perk for the lifetime of the account. If you sub to NSO for one year, you get the cloud service forever, even if you unsub.
I think these building blocks of stuff that doesn't go away can at least build some goodwill until they can come up with better rotating offerings of current games. Again, yes, this is half the price of the other consoles, so offer one modern game a month, that's fine. But please do something more than what it is now.
I really don't get the arguments that because it's cheap, it's good for the value.
The Wii U had a better service with better features for free. They stripped features, made it worse and started charging for it. How is that good value? It's BS.
They've all but abandoned the NES/SNES library, a lot of which is just shovelware barely anyone would buy to begin with. This part of it started out good with a lot of potential of evolving into a true full service retro platform, but it's an afterthought now. They even announced they have no regular commitment to it anymore.
Nintendo is decades behind when it comes to this type of thing and it really shows how out of touch they are.
@Cotillion
It's totally BS, dude, but it's the way of the world now. You're saying what we've all been saying for years: free is, of course, the best way to go. But outside of PC, you ain't gettin' free online gaming anymore lol
So, I don't know. As I always say, if you're that upset about it, go get your sign and travel to your closest Nintendo headquarters and start chanting or something.
@Cotillion Xbox Live is the only paid online service that has gotten better over generations. That said, I do really miss 1 vs. 100 from the Xbox 360 era and nothing has filled that void.
I feel like Nintendo has dried up the well of the base NSO getting new SNES/NES to get more subs of the expansion, as I now can’t remember the last time they updated it, which is crummy
@NinChocolate Last batch was in July though the only thing that has happened since then with NSO was the initial expansion pack content in late October. If there's no SNES/NES games announced when they announce the next batch of N64/Genesis games then it's probably safe to assume there's no more SNES/NES games being added.
So if past SNES batches are to go by, we'll find out in 1-2 weeks.
I think the best you could say for it was that it started out free.
I dare say that there's $20 of value a year to be eked out of cloud saves, Tetris/Pac Man 99, NES/SNES games, etc. but it's in no way worth that for the online multiplayer service alone.
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