Topic: Nintendo NX launching this year with an NX Zelda?

@skywake: I wouldn't count Zelda on Nintendo's next game system to be a profound prediction either lol

@DefHalan: Well, considering the only original main-line Zelda title for the Wii U may launch in the console's dying moments, maybe it is a pretty bold prediction haha

@rallydefault: I don't think those are connected. Zelda U might be the Zelda he is talkong about that comes out at or soon to launch but it could be something else.

As @NintendoFan64 said, it is on the Wii VC, but I'm still finding no reference to a supposed CT for Wii leak either. The only thing I can find in relation to Metaldave/Nintengen and Chrono Trigger is a "rumor" about CT characters being licensed to Nintendo back in 2012, which, I don't believe, has happened in the time since.

Fair call, I kinda tuned out of Wii VC releases by the time it came out. Didn't realise it was a thing and it's not on the Wiki page for Chrono Trigger. My mistake. Although according to @shaneoh this "prediction" was made in 2012 and wasn't about the VC release at all. Because it came out on the Wii VC in 2011.....

I think we have different understandings of the term "bold prediction". It may be an unlikely thing but that doesn't make it bold. Plenty of others are "predicting" that Zelda U will be an NX title. Some people have already assumed it to be the case from the moment the NX was talked about.

And the same thing happened with Skyward Sword. As soon as it was announced people talked about whether it would be a game for the Wii or the "Wii HD". Even when the Wii U was announced people speculated that Skyward Sword would be delayed to launch on the Wii U. As soon as there is a hint of a new console people start saying that existing games will be moved along to the next thing. That's not a new thing. Just because they end up being wrong most of the time doesn't mean they are "bold" to predict it.

@skywake: I was just joking man, don't worry. I also think you are misunderstanding what I was saying to @DefHaflan. I was making fun of the fact that the Wii U didn't have an original Zelda adventure title (well, still doesn't, even haha) until the bitter end of its life, so maybe it would be "bold" as in...teehee... silly... you know? Just joking around, man. I know the NX will likely get a Zelda title, don't worry.

I don't know what's new or not because I didn't own a Gamecube or Wii. Frankly, nor do I care what's turned out to be true or not in the past. Everything I've ever said is just the way I feel - it has nothing to do with Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword. A lot of you did own those systems and were there for those situations, so you've seen this process before and are kind of a bit jaded over it, from my perspective lol From an outside perspective with this whole Zelda dual release scenario, if it was predicted for both TP and SS, it seems that the predictions for a dual release were correct 50% of the time lol That's pretty different from "being wrong most of the time," eh, @Skywake? Kind more like... correct half of the time haha

So for the fifteenth time, we'll all just have to wait and see.

@rallydefault: but if we start giving credit to any unnamed average Joe who takes a 50/50 stab at saying "the next Zelda will be on two systems" (as opposed to the only other scenario of it not being on two systems) without a single shred of evidence to back up his claims, then we set the bar for these 'predictions' so low we would need to get our shovels out for future instances of the bar going any further downward. We might as well just pack it in there and then and say anyone who predicts that the next Zelda game will have graphics and sound of any quality deserves to be commended, as opposed to it not having any graphics or sound. I mean 50/50 chance right, only two possible scenarios anyone bold enough to put their neck on the line?

Not really given that for a start this applies to more games than just Zelda. It happens to some degree on any game launching on a platform that people look at as being near EOL. It has been said a lot about Zelda recently but it was also said of Pokemon in the past. And most of the time those predictions are wrong and the game launches on the existing hardware.

Also with Zelda in particular this "dual release" assumption only really started after Twilight Princess. It wasn't predicted for Twilight Princess, Twilight Princess was the example not the first correct guess. So even there you're wrong to say that it's "50%" because there has only been one Zelda game released people have assumed this for. That was Skyward Sword. Now they're doing it again with Zelda U

@skywake: No, you are still incorrect, sir. I was only talking about the Zelda games, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Please notice the thread title. We're not discussing (or I wasn't at least - please read my words) Pokémon games or Star Fox games or whatever. My actual words were, "From an outside perspective with this whole Zelda dual release scenario..."

Now, you say that a dual release possibility "only really started after Twilight Princess." You and I and everyone else on this board knows that just isn't true. It's not. LOTS of people were debating the possibility of a dual release for TP, and Nintendo, just like now, were saying over and over that it wouldn't be for their next console (which I guess people were calling the "Rev"?) and that it would only be a Gamecube title. And yes, I did care enough about this that I found a link with information to that regard.

http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/twilight-princess-delayed...

So, pardon my French, but you just got served some spaghetti and meatballs, @Skywake. See you on the flipside.

@TheLastLugia: Of course we shouldn't do that. The problem is that this "random" guy is not so random. He's been around for over a decade, has a screenname that people recognize, has a blog that gets some traffic, and has been an informer for GoNintendo for many years. That's not the description of a random guy.

Guy has a blog, screams random guy to me.

Edit:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193851

Another guess for Pokemon Rainbow back in 2013, the rumour appears to originate at GoNintendo. I wonder if GoNintendo and NintenGen take turns to spread each other's rumours.

I think you're missing the point. If we narrow the field to just Zelda games then there are only three that have launched near a console's EOL. Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask. However there are plenty of other games that have been scheduled for release near a console's EOL. More often than not they stay on the platform they were first developed for. Sometimes they jump ship entirely. Very, very occasionally they get a simultaneous dual release. Third party multi-platform releases and Twilight Princess being the only examples I can think of

Yeah, and how about you actually read the thread? It's not an argument there about whether or not it'll be a dual release. Most people are talking about the game skipping the Gamecube entirely. Some are talking about it being a Gamecube game that can use the "revo controller" when you play it on "the revo". Why? Well because dual releases aren't done that often. Also because the games that had typically come late in the cycle upto that point? They typically got that treatment.

I mention Pokemon and specifically what happened to Pokemon during the GB -> GBC -> GBA transition for a reason. Pokemon Yellow/Gold/Silver were all original Gameboy games but when you plugged them into a GBC you got the extra features of the GBC. That's why people in that thread were kinda stuck on that idea to some extent, because that's what they had to compare it to. We however have Twilight Princess as our example so we automatically jump to the conclusion that it's a dual-release.

Other than the blog that gets some traffic that also describes me. And the only reason his blog gets traffic is because his videos have gone somewhat viral in our relatively small community. At least partially because news starved websites go for the easy story. So yeah, that's definitely the description of a random guy.

Looks like this video and the 3DS leak video have been taken down...curious indeed

Hrm. Interesting, as they say. Interesting.

They got him too much attention and internet fame. I doubt he took them down himself, and I doubt he's trying to fake them being taken down by someone else for more "fame".

So yes, definitely interesting indeed.

Indeed, very interesting, indeed. Or simply just an accurate guess about "Niji?"

There's been so many leaks that have been part correct, part wrong (like Gematsu for Smash 4 roster) that I'm still not buying the home console rumours (NX is home console in 2016, only 1 unannounced Wii U game, Zelda U = Zelda NX) yet.

@Operative: Interesante, even. haha

Strange the videos would go down. Some others in this thread want to label the guy as "random" and totally basking in the internet fame these rumors have brought to him. "Riding the wave," as they say. So why, logically, would he take down the videos of his own volition if he really is just making crazy stuff up to score some views? Why would he also refuse comment to Kotaku (assuming this is the same person...right? I don't know. I thought his screenname was MetalDave or something similar) if he wants exposure?

http://kotaku.com/possible-leak-that-nailed-pokemon-codename-...

WHY, GERALDINE, WHY!?

The plot thickens.

Why would he take it down, he's not under a non-disclosure agreement is he? His "source" does work at Nintendo, but if they didn't leak that information to him, but MD is saying that they did break their NDA and give him information (even if he doesn't mention them by name), there are certainly some legal issues that can arise there. It would be dragging the person's name through the mud with their employer.

@Ichi Alright...here are some counters to that:
1. Not sure what you mean by confirmed leak. I mean, is it because he was right about Pokemon Niji? 'Cause Gematsu got 8/10 of its prediction confirmed, but that doesn't change the fact that it wasn't completely true.
2. Alright, here's a different theory: What if Dave deleted the videos not because of issues with Nintendo, or in order to AVOID issues with Nintendo? I mean, those videos were up for about a week, so I think Nintendo would've taken action by now. Granted, we don't know why he took down the videos exactly, so hey! Your guess is as good as mine.
3. Alright, so his source has been verified by NeoGaf. A. How does that mean anything, exactly? I mean, can anyone tell me what NeoGaf's track record is with this, or what? B. So his source works at Nintendo. Big whoop. That doesn't mean that his source couldn't have gotten a couple things wrong or misheard some things.
4. Alright, so he has a blog and has posted some leaks and rumors. I understand that he has a rather good track record. However...the predictions he's made were fairly safe, and just because you have a good track record doesn't mean you can't slip up (Shovel Knight and Inklings in Smash, anyone?).
5. What does his terminology have to do with anything? Does him saying that it's true make it so? Does that mean that if I said the president was a toaster and that was true, it would be so?
6. Alright, let's get rid of the lie part. There's still the possibility that he thinks he's telling the truth, even though he isn't. These things happen. Also, there's the possibility that his source could've goofed up in some aspects.
7. Here's the most important one: All rumors must be considered fake until proven otherwise. Even if some of it is true like Gematsu or looks real, you should always take it with a grain of salt.

@NintendoFan64: Of course everything should be taken with a grain of salt. This is all speculation and fun! I'm having a heck of a time!