Topic: Nintendo Direct Mini

One new first party game seems reasonable for a Direct Mini. What was so bad about Ultra Smash? The new one looks like a lot of fun, to me.

Oh and for all the people questioning: 'How will Nintendo sell 20mln+ consoles with this line-up??'

They won't, of course.
1) Like many before me already pointed out: this is only the least Nintendo has in store for us before summer and the year is long.
2) Nintendo has lost a lot of interest with the Wii U. Although they have regained momentum with a lot of Nintendo-fans, the occasional gamers may not even have heard of this console (at least in my environment). These people won't be hauled over with a Direct, not even if Animal Crossing or Smash would be in it. They have to be lured away from other consoles (young audience for example) and from previous Nintendo's (older gamers like me and my friends). I dare say a couple of my friends are seriously considering to buy the console. The E3 and the simple aspect of time will probably help to address a broader market.

Exactly.

But re-releasing WiiU ports really isn't that bad of a move. I was very glad to see it since I didn't own a WiiIU.

I liked the mini. It's odd that the free update to mario has me most excited though. Bayonetta is a maybe buy for me but I have it on wii U. I have hyrule warriors and tropical freeze there too.

Payday 2 is a game I know nothing about but which interests me a lot. The rets of them not so much - perhaps fe turns out great, who knows.

@skywake The thing is, I don't think that SSB4 is the best that could be done. I think that the game is technically great, but I was never inspired by it. It was actually the very definition of a "token sequel". With Nintendo recently bringing out such great games as Breath of the Wild and Odyssey I really want to see this happen with other franchises, too.

Perhaps I'm being foolish and that nothing can really be done on such a scale for the Super Smash Bros. series, but I definitely don't want SSB4 to be released again. That game, while technically great, was really missing something.

@skywake isn't Hyrule warriors supposedly coming out in spring?

Hyrule Warriors and Dragon Quest Builders stole the show for me. Time to dip in these again

@skywake You forgot Ys VIII in Summer, that's a big title.

It's a bit of a slap in the face to the most loyal Nintendo fans, who are the only ones that actually bothered to purchase and support the WiiU.
So, the loyal fans who got a WiiU, not only they ended up with a console that got prematurely killed - not because there was anything inherently wrong with it but simply because Nintendo was too stupid to find a way to market it in a market where basically most anything sells well - not only they had to buy a new console to play the games from their favourite company...but they keep being given the same games they already played a few years before.

Honestly, I watched the direct today and now I have even less reasons to buy a Switch than I had yesterday.

@spizzamarozzi I would argue the Wii U wasn't killed prematurely.

In fact, at just over 4 years, it's a little behind where the Gamecube and N64 were in terms of longevity...and the SNES actually, and right on par with the original Xbox at 4 years.

Honestly I think 4 years is the minimum for a console to live it's life. It depends on the advancements and if more can reasonably done with an upgrade at that time. I certainly don't want another near decade of one set of hardware though.

Well, if the switch does well, like the game boy or the DS/3DS line, get ready to play with it for a decade or so.

I mean I don't understand how ports can somehow made less reason to buy Switch (because ports = new games, and new games = I refuse to buy it now???)

Not like Nintendo is going to your home and like, "YOU MUST BUY THIS NEW CONSOLE AND THIS PORT". If you buy port, then that's on you, imo. If you feel Switch not worth it now, then don't buy it, wait and see. It's not going to be magically worth it the moment you buy it if you think it's not worth.

"Most of the games are port from Wii U!" , then don't buy the port from Wii U, problem solved. You don't need to double dip. There's no reason to double dip, then don't. Just wait for other games to come out, which it will.

Example: I bought 3ds game 3 years ago and if it's ported to Switch, and if it didn't add much... well, I'll see, "good, more people can play it, I don't need to buy it since I already played". Easy as that?

@darkfenrir exactly. It is an easy way to pad out the early years for a console. It isn't like it steals much resources from other games either, it takes much longer to create games nowadays.

@darkfenrir When the game series you love are only getting ports on the Switch than it can naturally hurt your enthusiasm for the system. Why would you purchase a system that by your interests only plays games you already have?

Some games like Breath of the Wild I'm fine owning on the Wii U and not carrying over to the Switch. However, then there are games like Mario Kart 8, which have gained a new life on the Switch. There are friends of mine who never had a Wii U that are playing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe that I really want to play with. But no way in heck do I want to spend a whopping $60 for a game I already own. So I just have to miss out on the experience.

I buy new systems to play NEW games. Mario Kart is a pretty big franchise for me to fall to the status of a port.

Then do just that, buy new games.

Every console will have games you won't be interested in buying. They're simply not meant for you.

you have to compare a current console with another current one - you can't compare it with 25 years old systems. The average lifespan of videogame consoles has expanded - PS3 still got first rate retail games in 2017, more than a decade after being released, and it's still getting downloadable games now. And technology isn't changing as fast as it was in the late 90s.

WiiU was supported for 4.4 years - and that's only because Zelda was delayed, otherwise it would have been just 3.8 years. Its fourth year was particularly laughable too, with just 2.5 first-party games released for it - basically when most modern consoles reach their apex, WiiU was already dead and forgotten.

On the hardware thing - the WiiU could have run moderately well all the first party games you have seen so far on Switch. It's not that they needed the upgrade in tech (it's pretty obvious that most of the new Switch games are just WiiU games shifted to Switch at some point), it's just that they couldn't market the WiiU so they released the Switch - and now they want you to play WiiU games on it. Excuse me but that's reason enough for me NOT to buy it.

I was really pleased with this Direct Mini. I'll definitely buy all of the showed games as time goes as all of them hit my gaming preferences.

I'm also really happy that they're releasing a definitive edition of Hyrule Warriors and I hope that it'll have a solid framerate as playing it right now on both (new) 3DS and Wii U is sometimes... simply ugh and sigh with occasional framerate drops.

Not to mention The World Ends With You. Here's my hoping that it'll sold well and we'll finally see a sequel or simply another title in this franchise.

Also can't wait for the new Mario Tennis with the adventure mode. Oh boy, how I wished for something like this... Now let's just wait for the new entry in the Strikers series and I'm ready to roll.

And Dark Souls? I don't even want to think about how much fun and how many deaths are waiting for me as it'll my first time playing game from the series...

Sure, it would be great to see a glimpse of Metroid Prime 4, or new Fire Emblem, maybe Pikmin 4 finally, Smash (!) etc. But, at least in my case, it was really nice ~15 minutes of what's coming for the Switch owners. And it's only beginning of the year.

As others already said - sure, most titles are ports. Or remasters. Or also available on other systems. But do I care about it? Nope. I'm happy that I'll be able to play them on my Switch. But first, I must find both time and money... which is easier said than done.

@Meowpheel @link3710
Whenever I do a list like that someone will always point to one game or another that was missing or in the wrong spot. Wasn't really my point. I was just trying to highlight that before this Direct Mini not a lot was known about games releasing between now and the period just prior to E3. In another thread I remember saying that based on the rate of games Nintendo usually published we were 2-3 games short. Now we know those three games are Donkey Kong, Mario Tennis and Hyrule Warriors with Kirby being confirmed as a release.

Whatever people have to say this direct was informative. I think we can expect smaller games and ports of older bigger games at this time of the year. We now know what those games are and that Nintendo is putting all of their resources into Switch. So that's a positive.

What was it missing? You haven't explained that yet. They've done large stages, user created maps, different online modes and massive character rosters. These aren't games that you play for the story or for the revolutionary new mechanics. You buy them either to compete or to whack it on the TV during a party. And they always sit in your system ready to go.

Anyways, I said that there's no reason for them to make a sequel just so they can put a different name on the box. Your comeback is that that's exactly what Smash Bros 4 was. A game which you brought anyway despite you yourself saying that it was basically Brawl again with new characters. For you that was good enough. So why does it being a sequel matter? You are literally saying here that it doesn't mean anything!

Yeah, but everyone thought that Playstation event was a boring waste of time? And most of these games were announced quite a while ago. And the PS4 is the dominate console in its 5th year and never had to prove itself to publishers?

I mean, "this event people didn't like was better than this event people didn't like" isn't a strong argument anyway...

also one of those games is Metal Gear Survive.

@Harmonie Like meowpheel said, then don't buy it. If you still feel you need to buy it to play with friends, it'll fall under the category, "Does another $60 in this series worth it to just play with my friend?" If the answer is no, then no matter how much you want to, you have to not buy it.

Just kinda, ignore all the ports of Wii U I guess? I mean, it exist doesn't mean you need to buy it. Some games will be glad for this 2nd chance because they got abysmal sales on Wii U, or at least, lower than usual. Well maybe not all had bad time on Wii U, but eh, if I don't like it I just don't buy it.

@spizzamarozzi I would say PS3 still getting games are testament how much 3rd party still loves PS3, compared to how 3rd party loves Wii U (Because iirc the games that come on it is all 3rd party, with them also coming to PS4 at least), the thing is, Wii U isn't loved by 3rd party. That's the reason Nintendo moved (I think...), and it's just that Wii U just... fails that it's better to cut off before it fails even more. Heck, if this data is right, Wii U sold less / on par than PSVita, and PSVita is dropped even faster by Sony. shrug