Topic: Metroid Dread

I got to Raven Beak last night, and routinely got my butt kicked.

To be fair, by about the 3rd time I could clear the first phase with (near) full health, but he always seems to get me during the second phase, even only through war of attrition (I got good at dodging most of his attacks, but he always nickel & dimes me with that rapid fire attack & eventually wears me down before I can complete the phase).

@RR529 I actually found the second phase to be the easiest. I'm surprised to hear he's hitting you more than you're hitting him.

I, too, am having such a hard time with him I'm thinking of just ending the game there. Many retries and the farthest I get is one or two melee counters. I can't imagine surviving 3 phases of that.

Only other thing that gave me Hard time other than running from ohko rng Ennis was z57. The pink waves attacks were terrible. But rb, I just can't get anywhere at all. I do ok dodging but I can't stay perfect indefinitely.

That final boss can @#$& right off, lol. Seriously, I played Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 & 2 a few months ago, and that was still one of the toughest bosses I've experienced all year. Satisfying to put him down, though.

@Bolt_Strike, since he was susceptible to all attacks at that point I was just spamming him with uncharged beam blasts (and while I was hitting him much more than the other way around, he can take more damage than I can, so he still came out on top). I remembered to throw in some missiles as well tonight, so after a few more tries I got him.

@RR529 I'm not really good at button mashing, I just used Storm Missiles and I never had an issue with him dealing damage to me faster than I could to him. I think beam shots just aren't as efficient (either that or you didn't bother to collect all of the Energy Tanks like I did). Now IDK, maybe regular missiles are more efficient than Storm Missiles for someone who is really good at button mashing, but Storm Missiles have generally gotten the job done for me in every boss battle since I got them.

I also managed to beat him without knowing that you could Power Bomb the golden orbs in the third phase which would've made my life a lot easier. So if I'd have known about that I could've easily breezed through it.

I think part of the reason why some people are struggling has to do with their choice of weapon, I struggled with several other bosses like Escue and the Twin Chozo Robots but when I switched to Missiles/Storm Missiles I had less problems. It seems like the game's bosses are really encouraging you to use them as much as possible.

I had a fairly productive session last night, I beat Z-57, the 2 Robot Chozo Soldiers in Burenia, Golzuna and the EMMI in Ferenia pretty much straight after each other.

I'm finding the robot Chozo soldier fairly easy to dispatch now.

The toughest EMMI for me so far has been the one in [spoiler] Ghavoran, as I was trying to beat him on the ground for ages rather than at the top, and I was never able to get it hot enough to get past the first stage.

I am almost at the end: 17+ hours in (20+ according to my account), 90% completion. Lets hope I can get the remaining 10% and then go to the endboss. Its a meaty game, though I did spend quite some time on the map and I am the type who just wants to fill in every black spot on the map (as useless as that may be). Its a lovely game.

Beautiful graphics

beautiful music

Smooth controls (for the most part)

A big labyrinth-like world (I did get lost a couple of times)

EMMI zones where fun (and super exciting when you finally get to beat them and you can finally roam free)

Very hard and good bosses (and the EMMI parts where hard too)

And hard to get items! Some are sooo hard to get, especially everything involving shinespark. Shinespark was always tricky, and here you need perfect timing to get the items. Besides, you have to start the speedboost by pressing the analogue button while running, wich is pretty bad.

One thing I don't understand though: It seems using Storm missiles on bosses (wich use 5 missiles at a time) is more usefull then using lots of Super missiles (wich use 10 missiles each).

Really looking forward to that endboss!

I beat Experiment Z 57. I took a little break since I last played the game, and I got stuck on this boss. Just beat him in three attempts. I knew about the shinespark trick to kill him instantly, but I couldn't pull it off, and defeated him the normal way. Not complaining lol.

Honestly, it's impressive how consistent it is with boss fights once you've played through the game a few times. With the exclusion of that one attack on the Cross Bombs boss, everything feels perfectly fair. Although the Cross Bombs boss in general is a pain without Spin Boost (or better yet, Space Jump).

How many Nintendo gold points does metroid dread special edition give, I got 60 gold points. The download version of metroid dread gives 300

Dang, the more I try RB, the worse I do. I occasionally get to phase 2 and get chewed up rapidly. I hate multi part bosses without checkpoints. It's a mini rogue like, and I hate those too.

I don't have the reflexes for the rapid dodges. Never did, it's why I suck at souls and mh, too. I hate to leave this game unfinished but I think it's time to quit it and just watch the end on YouTube.

@NEStalgia maybe check out some let's plays on YT to get some tips. Might help you overcome it.

Tried the demo. Was a better time than I expected. The paths are obvious so it doesn’t feel as tedious (back tracking is to me as annoying as grinding in RPGs is to some people) as I normally get from metroid games. May have to dig out my 3ds and play returns. I will say Dread is totally on my must buy list next year. Will likely get it in the summer.

Sort wished Samus made some sounds though. Not voice acting, but she seems really quiet when the world around her isn’t. Granted stuff is trying to murder her and she is in a space suit, so it makes sense. I think it hits me weird because I am an introvert that likes to think out loud so I would be muttering under my breath in that suit. As I normally don’t like voice acting in games and it isn’t like the computer doesn’t fill in the blanks.

@Ryu_Niiyama I've bought the game but recommended a few friends try the demo, how long is it? What is included?

@Ryu_Niiyama
Yea, I would describe the level layouts as more "obvious" than a lot of the metroidvania-inspired indie games that have been popular in the last decade. To me, it kind of feels like the king of the genre has returned. Or queen lol

@NEStalgia If you've got as far as RB, YOU CAN DO IT!

Metroid games always draw out the "Woah, that boss was a killer, it took me like 3 tries before I could no-hit kill them in 9 seconds!" crowd, but just forget about that, take the deaths and analyse where you're taking hits that can be reduced. I don't think there's anything about RB that requires significantly greater skill than you've already employed beating the other bosses.

@Ninfan Special Edition or not, Gold points for physical games are always determined by the RRP of the physical game by itself and the amount is equivalent to 1% of RRP. Digital games give you 5% of the current price in Gold Points at the time of purchase.

@NEStalgia Don't give up. It feels fantastic finally kicking RB's butt. Only real advice I can give is abuse the Storm Missiles and use Flash Shift to get out of tight spots rather than trying to run out of the way as Flash Shift covers a lot of distance.

@MarioBrickLayer I didn’t finish it because you can’t save…but I got through 3 EMMI rooms and got a little past picking up the map. That was enough for me to see the level layout, determine the relative difficulty of the EMMI rooms (less stressful than SA-X imo but I’m assuming they will become more complex/difficult.) and get used to the controls.

@rallydefault I’m not a fan of the genre or Metroid (despite having a deep respect for the significance of Samus’ character since as a female there weren’t a ton of cool female characters to play as in the late 80s early 90s that weren’t in fighting games) however I do own all the games in the series in some fashion (except dread) and I have been working on my backlog and thus trying games that have been left un-beaten. That being said, the demo was interesting enough that I am excited to buy the game rather than merely buying because I don’t want to have to pay a scalper later (all games having a digital version has mitigated this some except for licensed/fifa games) if I change my mind.

I will say the level design keeps gameplay fluid which makes sense for sections where you can be one shot/stabbed by an enemy.

@NEStalgia
Took me about 10-15 tries to finally beat Raven Beak. What exactly is it in phase 2 that's given you problems? For me, I screwed up on the jumping occasionally and wasn't always reading his tells to switch to the morph ball in time to avoid his dash. Get those down, and you should be able to get past him. Phase 3 is actually easier than 2, imo. Just be ready to use the power bomb.

@NEStalgia IDK what your issue is with dodging his attacks. As long as you're using Flash Shift (for the downward charge) and Slide (for the sideways charge), you shouldn't have much issue, you don't really need super quick reflexes to beat Phase 2.