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Grumblevolcano

@sisodinr This'll be my first Mario Strikers game but looking at reviews of the other 2 games in the series, it seems single player has always been very limited for the franchise. Meanwhile with Mario Tennis and Mario Golf there were good single player content in previous entries like the story mode in the GBA games.

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sisodinr

@Grumblevolcano This will be my second in the franchise, as I only played the Wii version. That is very true - the single player play has been limited in the franchise, with only like three cups to win in the Wii version (I think), and some other smaller features. I imagine, or at least hope, the single player mode was more robust in the GC version since it would have needed to be at that time. And I don't disagree at all with any of that. It's really interesting to see Nintendo releasing two multiplayer-/online- heavy games back-to-back, with Switch Sports and then this. I also love your comment mentioning "This'll be your first...".
I'm pleased to see Nintendo getting newer folx on board with the franchise!

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Pizzamorg

You can also add me to the "new person jumping on the train" conga. The last game in this franchise came out when I wasn't really touching anything Nintendo related at all, but honestly the more they reveal of this, the more excited I am finding myself.

As I said in another thread, the core Mario platform games are not for me, but almost all of the spin offs are things I always end up really enjoying and assuming they put the same level of energy, care and effort as they do into the other spin offs, I don't see why this won't be a straight banger.

Using Mario Tennis Aces as my nearest equivalent, I will say it can be very challenging and I do think the balance between additional mechanics and the heart of the sport it is representing is kinda off there. You can be the better player overall, but sometimes that doesn't matter at all if you can't do perfect blocks to survive special moves. However, I still love jumping on for an hour and getting sweaty all the same.

I do believe they make direct reference in one of the trailers here that this is very pick up and play friendly - maybe in direct response to how complex and unforgiving Aces can be for a tennis game, which is good news to me, as a lot of the footage is really chaotic and that can either be tonnes of fun, or miserable, depending on how well the controls are designed.

I do sorta share some concerns of others though about the amount of content on offer here. It looks like they are really focusing on the online portion and the jury is still out on how well Nintendo can really do online experiences in the modern age. I also generally do not enjoy playing sports games against randos and would much rather play against either the CPU or my friends. So I dunno if this means like 95% of what is available here, is gonna be the part I don't enjoy.

However, it does look like you have a decent amount of characters, apparently all with their own abilities and the ability to unlock gear to alter your characters, so hopefully this can be explored and unlocked in modes that aren't just straight PVP all the time.

I see a lot of complaints about Tennis Aces lacking content, I dunno what it was like at launch, but I picked it up fairly recently and I think as it stands today, it is pretty much as content complete as I can expect from a modern sports title.

If this is just five v five straight match ups online, local or via the CPU, I can see the novelty and fun of this wearing off very fast, unless you have a dedicated group of friends all playing this together (which I won't have). So I do hope it includes something which'll keep things fresh and varied.

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Snatcher

I'm not a sports guy, and I don't usually like sports games, However, I do like me a small amount of soccer games, and this is mario soccer so count me in! (New guy)

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Pizzamorg

We should all create a Nintendolife League (if it works that way) to break us newbies in.

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sisodinr

I really hope we get some lengthy reviews before the game comes out. I feel confident I'll get the game, but I just need some independent party verification that it won't let me down.

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StarPoint

@Pizzamorg haha that's a great idea. There's likely going to be a lot of newcomers to the series

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Snatcher

@Pizzamorg I’m all for it, just think about how awesome it would be too!

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sisodinr

@Pizzamorg a league? or a club? I imagine that once it's up and running, plenty of folx here will be playing, so either a league and/or club could be very doable.

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Pizzamorg

Forgive me if I am wrong, but if we made a club, would we all be controlling individual characters on the same team? Whereas a league would be us playing against one another, right? I just assumed playing against one another would be logistically easier than trying to put a club together with all of us. But admittedly I don't really know how all of this works.

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meleehunter

sisodinr wrote:

@Grumblevolcano This will be my second in the franchise, as I only played the Wii version. That is very true - the single player play has been limited in the franchise, with only like three cups to win in the Wii version (I think), and some other smaller features. I imagine, or at least hope, the single player mode was more robust in the GC version since it would have needed to be at that time. And I don't disagree at all with any of that. It's really interesting to see Nintendo releasing two multiplayer-/online- heavy games back-to-back, with Switch Sports and then this. I also love your comment mentioning "This'll be your first...".
I'm pleased to see Nintendo getting newer folx on board with the franchise!

Yes and no concerning more "single player content" (I air quote since I am pretty sure most of it could be done with up to 4 players vs. the AI) in Super Mario Strikers. Technically, there were eight cups to win (four regular and four super versions of each), but not only did they lack what little story flavor Charged peppered in concerning your choice of captain in Road to The Striker Cup, there was nothing stopping you from keeping the opponents at the lowest (or second lowest for the super cups) difficulty the whole way. The wealth of customization you could apply to how those cups would play out was kind of interesting, but also kind of takes away the feeling of accomplishment. And there was only one real surprise, the robotic Super Team at the end of the last cup. That being said, the implication that the whole event was being run by Bowser, and not even as the result of some plot of his, was interesting when sporting events were usually hosted by Peach, if anything (it would also explain the more liberal rules leading to violence).

@Pizzamorg I feel that we should temper our expectations on how different the characters play here. With the emphasis on up to eight player multiplayer, it looks like they do not want the players to be so distinct that there's constant arguments over things like who gets to be "the captain" or just reacting badly to people picking characters considered too weak or strong. It's more about picking the character you personally like and using gear to customize their stats, the main point of distinction, to your liking. To that end while I do to a point understand those who are bummed by the current roster and not having your favorite available, the importance of having a lot of them in this specific game is greatly exaggerated. It's a lot like the first Strikers game honestly, the differences between characters in that game was quite subtle.

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Fizza

New, unedited gameplay from Nintendo France of all places.

Love the way they're commentating it like an actual football match, though it's a bit weird how there's no music or voices in the video. The characters look fantastic though, especially Waluigi like OH MY GOD. Who would've thought he could pull a Tron look off?

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meleehunter

@Fizza The standout of this video was Peach for me. There is absolutely no reason for her to do the splits after firing an airborne one-timer before she even confirms her shot went in, but she does it anyway. And yet judging from salty Youtube comments you'd swear she did things like flash for the cameras in Charged based on how "soulless" this game looks.

We also learn how defending from Hyper Strikes works: unless the opponent nails the gauge timing perfectly, you'll have a chance to button mash the shot away as Boom-Boom, with the difficulty of this likely varying based on how good the meter timing was.

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roy130390

So, I just saw an entire match on Gamexplain and the game honestly looks like tons of fun. It seems to be closer to the first Mario Strikers than Charged and I welcome that personally as that game was too chaotic and fast. A bigger roster is always good, but I prefer more polished and balanced gameplay over that. Also, wow, the animations are fantastic.

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ophone

I didn't even know Rosalina's called Harmonie in French.

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sisodinr

@ophone Thanks for pointing that out! I didn't know that either, but love it.

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StarPoint

I think the pacing of the game looks really good. It doesn't seem quite as chaotic as Charged, which I actually kind of like. It looks more articulate and strategic than the previous entry; I guess we'll have to see that for ourselves, though. It also looks super polished and buttery smooth. I love the character's clothing designs and their animations as well. Really excited about this one; I hope it turns out well. I just hope we get more than 10 characters. I think it's super likely that we do, but you never know.

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sisodinr

@StarPoint I like the pacing a lot too! I did enjoy how chaotic the pac of Charged was, but it could get out of hand sometimes and influence a result just because of the chaos. This looks like you have to be way more deliberate than in Charged by rewarding skill over just aided-chaos-success (I love Mario Kart 8DX, but I strongly prefer time trials over online races with items b/c it rewards skill).

If we only have 10 characters, I will be shocked.

sisodinr

sisodinr

My fan fiction (if I can call it that?)for more fun details, would be to have Lakitu be an ironic referee. Ironic in the sense that there should be no foul called for shoving a player into an electronic fence. But I'd love to see some fun animations with characters (imagining Waluigi here) complaining to a floating Lakitu for not making a call.

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meleehunter

@ophone https://shantae.fandom.com/wiki/Harmony

That character has made me think of Rosalina, what a coincidence that the latter has the same name as the former in at least one language.

StarPoint wrote:

I think the pacing of the game looks really good. It doesn't seem quite as chaotic as Charged, which I actually kind of like. It looks more articulate and strategic than the previous entry; I guess we'll have to see that for ourselves, though. It also looks super polished and buttery smooth. I love the character's clothing designs and their animations as well. Really excited about this one; I hope it turns out well. I just hope we get more than 10 characters. I think it's super likely that we do, but you never know.

Things like charging your tackles (probably how you deal with characters with high strength that can resist them), your characters falling flat on their faces if they miss them, or even fencing themselves, along with how genuinely difficult it seems to actually get a chance to fire a Hyper Strike unopposed definitely seems to point to a game where you're constantly weighing your options, your positioning and risk vs. reward. Things like, is it worth smacking down players without the ball to secure or stop score attempts even if it means they'll have more items to use later? How long should you try to bait a deke from a player you are chasing?

I don't know if anyone here has noticed, but there seems to be a trend lately of people making competitive scenes out of Gamecube era Mario sports games, like Superstar Baseball and Super Mario Strikers. While there will always be the dilemma of whether this relatively radical shift was the right call as opposed to making essentially Charged 2.0 with better graphics and more of everything, especially since the formula arguably hadn't really gotten stale yet, at least those burgeoning communities have to worry too much about Battle League obsoleting their efforts, for better or worse.

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