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JaxonH

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since it was likely the switch version would sell more im wondering why didnt they put more work onto that version

And that's the real question that should be asked, not just for this game but all games. The answer is, I don't think these devs expect anything but PS4 sales to dominate, so that's where they focus. Then they're shocked when Switch outsells it or at least goes toe to toe.

Eventually, the mindset will transition to expecting great sales on Switch, developer by developer, and effort will increase (from a macro perspective, on average).

That said I think this version is pretty good, comparitavely speaking.

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CanisWolfred

To be fair, remember that this got delayed so they could address people's concerns regarding the visuals - and most the elements from the revamp aren't apparent on the Switch. I think it was designed with the Wii U, and later the Switch, in mind, and it was only upgraded for the sake of more powerful platforms due to demand.

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BruceCM

Eh, it still looks great in handheld & I've had no crashes yet or anything else....

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PCkid

I had a lot respect for Michiru Yamane but it's over.
"Luxurious Overture" is with no doubt possible a pure rip off of Crucified from Army of Lovers.

It starts at 0:42

I already had a bad opinion on the game but now this game is killing a heroine of my youth.

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Ralizah

lol I just watched a video that can be summed up suchly:

"The game looks good in handheld mode, but it doesn't look great on my 55 inch 4K TV like the PS4 Pro version does."

People are being ridiculous, as usual.

If you want to play this on the TV, buy it on PC or a home console.

If you want to play it as a portable experience, buy it on Switch.

@PCkid It really seems like you're stretching to find reasons to hate this game now. Did Igarashi kill your dog or something?

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PikPi

S.O. is really excited to get the game. Though after reading through all the Switch impressions, I suggested he get it on PC or one of the other consoles. Hoping they can iron out some of the Switch issues though because I would like to have it portable at one point in the future. Overall I'm just glad the game is considered to be well-made and worth the wait

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NintendoByNature

Wonder when NL will review it so we can all see how it turns out for the switch version. I had it preordered twice actually and canceled both times. I should clear up some backlog games first. But it would be nice to know what NL says.

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BruceCM

Lols, just got killed by Snake.... (you know who) Can I call that a bug or a glitch or something?

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Ralizah

@NintendoByNature Digital Foundry. They'll give the low-down on the technical shortcomings of the various versions of the game in a video.

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JaxonH

I'll dive in deeper after work today and see how it fares.

Complaints I've heard are: crashes, frame drops, lag and visuals.

The visuals I can sort of agree on. Doesnt look the best docked. Kinda meh. It's ok I guess. Handheld does look pretty great. To me at least. Nice and sharp.

All I can say is, the other issues haven't reared their head yet. If they do, I'll be sure to update.

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CurryPowderKeg79

BEST BUY ONLINE still has the steel game case for free and they will price match Amazon's price of $32.84. You CAN'T get it in store and get the steel game case. Although you can have your online order shipped to the store and pick it up. Also to price match on Best Buy Online you need to call customer support with the order number and be the one or say you are the one on the account. It only took me about 8 minutes to do this.

Edit: I ended up selling the Best Buy steel case and the game for a $18 dollar profit.

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Ralizah

@JaxonH Personally, I only REALLY care about a third-party Switch game's handheld performance, as the portability is generally the only reason I'd opt for the Switch version vs other ones.

Anyway, we've had so many cases now where people initially claimed the Switch port of a game was an unplayable mess, only for that... not to be true... that I can't help but to be skeptical.

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roadrunner343

@Ralizah Unfortunately (for me) the issues are immediately noticeable in gameplay videos. I am extremely sensitive to frame rate drops though. I can handle visuals being degraded, even dynamic resolution drops, but with all the visual downgrades, aggressive dynamic resolution, I expect relatively smooth performance. The trade offs are just to great for me. I purchased on Steam this morning, and just need to decide if I keep my switch copy sealed for my collection, or return to Amazon. It's a great game so far, just disappointing that the Switch port is in such rough shape at the moment.

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JaxonH

@Ralizah
Oh me too. I've played games others claimed was "unplayable" and barely noticed a hitch. Hyperbole and overreaction are common within the gaming community, and bandwagoning complaints to that effect just exacerbate the issue to the point I can't trust anything I hear.

That's not to say people are necessarily wrong. But I judge based on what I see for myself. And so far it's pretty decent. That could change, the game could start crashing, I may start having issues, etc. But I'm not going to complain about something I have yet to experience.

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NEStalgia

@CanisWolfred I've never been good with boss battle patterns like that, though I can say I was much better back in the 80's when I was doing it daily rather than as a rarer curiosity.

@JaxonH Sensible from a business perspective/publishing/numbers game perspective. PS4 has >80M consoles in the wild at this point. Even as I Switch fan, I wouldn't bet my money on Switch as the lead for anything but a Japan-centric game, let alone for a "franchise" (in spirit of) from the producer of, a Playstation-only (at launch) subseries of games. Obviously a lot of us know a 2.5D platformer with legendary NES connections to it's spiritual series will do great on Switch, but for "Spiritual successor to SotN" nobody can be faulted for assuming the base is on the 80M strong PS.

@PCkid Yeah, I mean, it's a 2.5D UE game. There's really no reason this can't run 1080p settings maxed on Switch. The engine can handle it. The hardware can handle it. This is definitely a case of poor optimization. I'm not saying only the Switch port is poorly optimized, rather the whole game is poorly optimized and other platforms can just brute force it using enough power to run Crysis.

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roadrunner343

@JaxonH Like you said, "I'm not saying you are wrong" but I also judge on my experience - and there's been far too many times where people say they don't notice or see any issues, but they truly are borderline unplayable for me. Perhaps it's because I come from a predominately PC gaming background, or perhaps I am just hyper sensitive to frame rates, but that's one thing I can't stand. I'll accept visual downgrades, resolution drops (Though, that is less preferred), but I inconsistent frame rates are really hard for me to overcome. In an ideal world, everything would be 60 FPS at a minimum for me, but I've learned to tolerate 30 FPS. While I find 30 FPS a little distracting, the real problem is when frame rates are inconsistent, whether targeting 30 or 60 FPS, as it is very jarring to me and impossible to ignore.

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Ralizah

@roadrunner343 In general, if you're that sensitive to performance deficits, it's probably advisable to play your third party games on the most powerful hardware you own. The Switch version of something is almost never going to be the one that performs best. It's the portable version. That means a lot more to some people than it does to others, ultimately.

@JaxonH I mean, Mario + Rabbids was subnative when undocked and crashed on me three times or so in the final mission, but it's still one of my favorite games on the system. Games crash sometimes. Moreso on the PS4 than any other platform I've ever owned, but it's generally not the end of the world if it doesn't happen too often. And that sort of thing is generally helped out by patches over time.

The footage I've seen has looked fine, so the only thing I'm at all concerned about is any sort of input lag. And there seems to be no clear consensus on that front.

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