actual quote for people who want to read it, doesn't actually mention NX BTW:
WSJ: Sony’s and Microsoft’s consoles have far outsold the Wii U. What’s your strategy to come out ahead?
Fils-Aime: The time frame that these systems are sold is quite long, and right now we’re still at the very early stages of the current generation. The other piece I would highlight is this is a global business. Don’t just look at what’s happening here in the U.S. Look at what’s happening globally.
From a Nintendo perspective, we clearly have strength here in the Americas, we have strength in Europe and we have strength in Japan. That isn’t necessarily true of some of our more direct competitors. We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later.
In that response he's going out of his way to say that home consoles are sold over a long period of time and that we are still very early in the generation. Also that they are working on their next home console but that it's something they'll talk about much later. And yet people still read into it that he's saying the NX replaces the Wii U and is imminent. That may be the case and it may be that this is a bunch of PR dribble. For sure. But at this point if it's PR it's not working. I think they need to actually come out and say what the NX is, whatever it is. Because it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?
Source?
www.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-42336
He mentioned a next gen console, didn't directly mention it was NX.
In case your wondering why I sound so desperate it because I refuse believe Nintendo PR got this stupid.
>Your digital event caused unease in Wii U brand's future, especially when it's starting to come together and climbing in sales.
Alright, alright, we can fix this, just gotta-
>You mention NX, before mentioning anymore upcoming Wii U software
Alright slight problem, can get any wor-
>Confirms you're working on next console, doesn't even try to push current in one in same statement.
Nope, done.
You've officially caused damage to your brand, good luck undoing that.
I wasn't even completely serious when I said this before, but now not so much: 2015 - The year Nintendo PR went to s***.
If the NX is a console, I wonder how Nintendo will make it look.
Well there isn't much they can do for looks really. The optical drive kinda dictates the design. Even if you go to the two extremes of "cooling potential" for a computer that sits under your TV that has an optical drive you don't see that much variety in the looks.
Wii U:
MITX HTPC case that supports full sized graphics cards:
Not that big a difference in terms of looks I'd argue, it's basically the same thing just at different sizes. With the Wii U it's about as small as they can make it because of the need to fit in an optical drive. At the other end that HTPC case is "small" but can still fit the highest end gear so any bigger than that is "wasted space". Unless you want to go insane. So it'll probably look like something within that range but probably closer to the Wii U end of the spectrum.
"Very early in the generation" would mean no more than half the lifecycle but for anybody but Reggie, even less than that. If we're early in the generation yet, then this E3 would have to be considered suicide for the console with only announcing Tennis and Amiibo Festival as brand new titles. When have they ever not teased a game bigger than Tennis in any prior E3? When have they had a console at maybe 10M units after 2.5 years on market and expect to sell that failing console for another 2.5 -3 years all while pushing "next platform" messaging?
2003. The biggest game was Pacman Vs, they had Mario Kart Double Dash but people were annoyed that it wasn't the Mario Kart they wanted. The focus was largely on games people didn't really care about and the Gamecube, despite having quite a few games at that point, was struggling. And while this was all happening the very next year they went all out with the DS, basically replacing the far more successful GBA. Slightly earlier into the GC's life but pretty similar overall. It was a similar story for E3 2008 I'd argue with the only difference being that the Wii was still riding on a sea of cash. In neither case did Nintendo then dump their console at the next E3.
But still, the point I'm making is that he didn't say anything of the sort. You're just reading into it because you've already come to a conclusion. I agree that it doesn't look good after E3 but a bad E3 doesn't mean that a console is being retired soon. All he said was that they were working on new hardware, which they always are, and that it's something they'll be talking about "much later". That may mean 2016 but just as easily it might not. If he had said that they are working on a new home console called the NX and they'll have more to say in 2016? Or even the same without saying NX? Then that'd be something.
actual quote for people who want to read it, doesn't actually mention NX BTW:
WSJ: Sony’s and Microsoft’s consoles have far outsold the Wii U. What’s your strategy to come out ahead?
Fils-Aime: The time frame that these systems are sold is quite long, and right now we’re still at the very early stages of the current generation. The other piece I would highlight is this is a global business. Don’t just look at what’s happening here in the U.S. Look at what’s happening globally.
From a Nintendo perspective, we clearly have strength here in the Americas, we have strength in Europe and we have strength in Japan. That isn’t necessarily true of some of our more direct competitors. We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later.
In that response he's going out of his way to say that home consoles are sold over a long period of time and that we are still very early in the generation. Also that they are working on their next home console but that it's something they'll talk about much later. And yet people still read into it that he's saying the NX replaces the Wii U and is imminent. That may be the case and it may be that this is a bunch of PR dribble. For sure. But at this point if it's PR it's not working. I think they need to actually come out and say what the NX is, whatever it is. Because it's getting a bit ridiculous.
So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.
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Well I was wasn't really speaking to you're previous post but more trying to make sense of why Reggie would say we are early in the generation of a console that just had an E3 that opened with Reggie saying the Next platform will be shown off next year. His PR Speak has been so inconsistent this year
Either the NX is a home console and that whole line he gave the WSJ was PR nonsense. Or the NX is not a home console and he was talking about the platform that would actually replace the Wii U when he was talking to the WSJ. Either way they do need to get their messaging straight.
So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.
I'm pretty sure they've said that they're always working on new hardware. It's not a secret. It's also a known thing that Sony and Microsoft are also working on what their next platforms are. It's just that since the NX announcement everyone has attached every mention of "the next thing we're working on" to the NX.
So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.
I'm pretty sure they've said that they're always working on new hardware. It's not a secret. It's also a known thing that Sony and Microsoft are also working on what their next platforms are. It's just that since the NX announcement everyone has attached every mention of "the next thing we're working on" to the NX.
Usually, when they say they are working on new hardware, it's a vague reference. I'm almost positive Reggie is referring to NX when he says "We've also said publicly"
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[Usually, when they say they are working on new hardware, it's a vague reference. I'm almost positive Reggie is referring to NX when he says "We've also said publicly"
He may be referring to the NX but he didn't say NX.
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A smartphone-like device (but also with buttons) that replaces both Wii u and 3DS. May be the same power as Wii u, or slightly more. Can maybe also connect to a tv in some way. Sure comes with NFC for allllllll the Amiibo. Is basically made to give us acces to their mobile games, and everything will be digital only! No cards, no discs!
Sounds scary? Of course, but Nintendo doesn't care! Does it bomb? Hard to tell. People love smartphones, but it would totally piss of the gamers. Not that Nintendo cares though.
Revision:
Hardware Spec: eshop microconsole that plays NX, Wii U, 3DS, Android, and VC software. A repackaged, spruced up Wii U with a quad core ARM cpu instead of power PC.
Controller: Wii U Pro controller with headphone jack, analog triggers, rumble, a small screen for navigation.
Unique Feature #1-Control variety. All Wii U controllers plus New 3DS, NX controller, and select mobile devices for certain games
Unique Feature #2-very deep cross connectivity and cross play.
Unique Feature #3-something with the membership service
Like Nvidia Shield console but with Nintendo's charm/twist.
Hardware Spec: A competitively powered (notice not "high" powered, but certainly comparable and even a bit future-proof) home console with PlaystationNow-like functionality
Controller: Beefed-up Wii U Pro controller. (A bit weightier, more responsive triggers, feedback, etc.)
Unique Feature #1: Gyroscope/microphone/NFC still built into controller (NFC may have to be part of console itself, perhaps...I'm not an NFC technician, I don't know how small those can be lol)
Unique Feature #2: PlayStationNow-type capability: Basically, Virtual Console but more flexible and available to rent/stream. The renting can also carry onto your 3DS or smartphone through a unified Nintendo account.
Unique Feature #3:Nintendo finally implements "achievements" in the form of "coins" (duh, lol) that also integrates into its new Club Nintendo. So, unlike trophies or achievements on the other consoles, coins that you earn go into your profile for others to see, of course, but ALSO make you eligible for certain rewards. Perhaps even free, timed rentals of games from Unique Feature #2. That would be a great way to hook people back into old Nintendo games.
Whatever it is, I better be able to play Arkham Knight Armored Edition on it. I hope there is a gamepad that acts more like a 3ds--which apparently a lot of people think it will be a hybrid like that, which is the reason why I haven't bought the new 3ds yet.
Hardware: Mobile game console with base station for remote play.
Custom ARM 64bit processor and GPU capable of running 4k at 60fps, 4gb ddr4, 128gb on-board storage, micro SDxc
Controler: Modified WiiU pro design for mobile with 5-5.6" touch screen 1080p, camera, mic and motion sensors.
Feature 1. Play anywhere. Play at home on your big screen, on the go, or at another base station.
Feature 2. Play multiplayer games on 4 devices with only 1 game using base station.
Feature 3. Ability to use TV as a spectator screen for multiplayer tournaments
Feature 5. online play via wifi or sim card for any carrier.
This would be a way to compete without going for direct power like PS4 and Xbox. Unfortunately if you wanted backwards compatibility with the WiiU and Wii physical disks the base station would need a disk drive and a bit of processing power itself making the unit bundle expensive. That would mean Wii and WiiU games would need to be downloads, unless Nintendo figures out how to stream realtime disk drive data for remote processing. Backwards compatibility with DS and 3DS would also be tricky. Without the 2nd screen. I guess if the touch screen is in Ultra Wide screen format, they could just split the screen and display the 2 DS/3DS side by side. Later on they could add vertual reality headset that the mobile device could connect to instead of the base station.
I think it's a stop gap system/attempted third pillar for their console business. Kinda of how like the DS was supposed to be a third pillar between the Gameboy and the Gamecube. I fully believe it'll be a Home/Handheld hybrid. It'll keep Gamepad integration of the Wii U except you can take this pad anywhere and for the sake of Wii U backwards compatibility. The pad will also be smaller for portable use. The graphics will probably be either on par with current gen or a little weaker.
Now you might be thinking "Wouldn't using the Gamepad gimmick again just turn away third parties?" But here's the thing: The NX GamePad will not be vital to the NX OS. Third Parties can just have a dark screen if they wish to bypass the Pad completely. The infrastructure of the console will be that of PS4 and Xbox One so it'll be familiar for devs to develop for.
Because Nintendo will most likely sacrifice graphics again (though a little less this time around) the price point will be about $250-300 bucks.
I fully believe this is sensible but hey what do I know? Tell me what you guys think.
You are expecting to have a portable system near the power of Xbox One and PS4 for only $250-$300?
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
@DefHalen Yes in this day in age, I believe that's absolutely possible. Using current gen hardware wont cost them that much. Perhaps it'll be a little more, like $350 but yes, it's not going to cost much.
Getting to the power of the PS4/XBOne at that price for a home console? For sure. For a portable? Not a chance. Even ignoring the cost of such a device it's hard to imagine how you'd keep it cool. It's not even technically do-able let alone at a price point that'd make it competitive.
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