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JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
I understand.

But what I’m trying to tell you is that will not work. Switch will not work via eARC.

If you’re talking about other systems then yes. But Switch does not work through eARC (nobody knows why- it theoretically should… but it doesn’t). That’s the entire problem with Switch surround sound- it doesn’t work through eARC so you have to plug it in directly or it simply will not work. That’s why I had to run directly into my soundbar, because unlike every other console I own Switch wouldn’t work with eARC.

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I just give up then...lol

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
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JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
Also, just to clarify any misconceptions.

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Actually I think I’m wrong on this so disregard. I thought you didn’t need it on both but you do. I have it on both so I’ve never tried but I thought you could just use it one way. Apparently not.

Still, if you were willing to look for a new soundbar to fix the issue, that will fix the issue, just not for the reasons you thought. You should find a different soundbar with HDMI inputs (so that you can run your Switch directly into it) and eARC so that you can pass the video up to the tv (The only way surround-sound will work on Switch, barring an extractor that sends separate HDMI signals to each).

All your other consoles can remain plugged into your TV and pass the audio from the tv eARC down to the soundbar.

Basically, everything will work and your problem will be fixed, but only by plugging Switch directly into soundbar and let the eARC carry video up to tv. Which shouldn’t really make a difference either way, as far as convenience. Into TV, eARC to soundbar, or into soundbar with eARC to TV… who cares. Which ever works, right? And we know “into soundbar, eARC out to TV” works.

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Joeynator3000

I dunno, people were giving me mixed answers on the eARC thing so that was confusing. People were saying it worked, others are saying the Switch prevents this...

As for Vizio's stupid issue that's nonexistent for some reason...I got nothing, they said that the latest firmware fixed it, but when I tried it absolutely no changes happened. So...my audio was still cutting out briefly when the sound bar detected silence for a second and taking a few seconds to come back. (it doesn't seem like a big deal, but yeah it's really annoying, lol)

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
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Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
Sounds annoying.

I would update soundbar firmware, completely disconnect from all HDMI sources and power, let sit for 30 seconds, then reconnect.

I was actually getting no audio at first when I set up my soundbar for Switch. This fixed it. It sounds so stupid and basic, but it actually worked.

Otherwise, I'd just stay far away from Vizeo on your next soundbar. Throw that one in a spare room or something just for TV viewing. Grab the Ambeo. I can guarantee it works. Then again it's pretty expensive. If you're looking to spend less, there are many good options.

Just make sure it has Atmos support, eARC and search forums first to ensure it works with Switch.

The Samsung HW-Q950A is highly praised. Sonos ARC + sub.

But if you want an "all in one" without having to deal with any separate speakers, just go for the Ambeo and be done with it. Not only will the audio blow your socks off, it works with Switch, has eARC, Atmos and no dealing with separate speakers. And it's compatible with any subwoofer if you want to add one later. Many soundbars aren't. But it goes as low as 30 Hz on its own. That sucker has some of the best bass I've ever heard for not having a sub (with a sub it's absolutely divine though)

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Yeah, I've tried EVERYTHING...nothing works, so I dunno. Oddly enough my older Vizio 5.1 sound bar didn't really have this bug, or rather it did but it was not as noticeable or bothersome. But yeah, updated, unplugged everything, even tried factory reset and then updating, nothing works. Just need a new sound bar I guess, might try something that's not Vizio next time.

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

Joeynator3000

I tried TruMotion with some of my games...visually it's kinda...choppy looking. Even when turning the settings down. But yeah artifacts everywhere worse than when I'm watching a movie with it turned on.

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

JaxonH

@Wavey84
Love it! No issues with motion, which looks fine to me. Turned off the black frame insertion though.

The G6 DAC/Amp is a Godsend. If you get a USB splitter and run all your systems into it, then a single USB to the G6, you can use it for all your systems. My $25 splitter came with a small remote so I can easily switch the inputs as needed without getting up (though I do get up to grab headphones anyways so, guess it's not that big a deal to do it manually).

Download the Soundblaster Connect software and you can turn on SBX and EQ (gotta have SBX turned on for EQ to activate). You can just not turn on all the virtual enhancements though, so even though SBX is on its not really doing anything. Then just set EQ as desired. As long as your SBX light is on for the button on the side of the G6, the SBX effects you have activated and the EQ is applied. So ya, you can set bass however you want and alot more.

It also has low and high gain mode, and, works with PS5 and Switch, which many DAC/AMPs do not. Or they work with one but not the other. This is the only one that works with everything that I'm aware of.

If you can't find a good price, check out Amazon Japan. I imported for less than MSRP here in the US.

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Joeynator3000

@Wavey84 Well in general, I have the C9. But yeah, 30fps games, never saw a reason to do it with 60fps games. I figured it would just look..."eh" or something. lol

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

Joeynator3000

@Wavey84 Never had any issues with the visuals actually, don't really notice any color problems. >.< Same goes for Switch games since they're all 1080p and below. shrugs

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

NintendoDad

@JaxonH @Joeynator3000

RE: Hooking up directly to the Sound Bar.

Ok. I wanted to try this, so I grabbed our Nintendo Switch from our game room and took it to our TV room and plugged the Switch directly into our sound bar.

And . . . it seemed to work right out of the box.

I changed the sound mode on the Switch to surround and did the test. It played all 6 sounds. (Being a sound bar, it wasn't true surround. But . . . at least it seemed that all 6 channels were getting through.)

As a test, I then plugged the Switch into the TV and let ARC get the sound to the sound bar. Again all 6 sounds came through. But . . . the last sound (Which I assume is the bass) sounded different. Not sure why.

So . . . although both ways seemed to work, plugging the Switch directly into the sound bar (for whatever reason) seemed to sound better.

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JaxonH

@NintendoDad
All 6 sounds coming through isn't quite confirmation of surround. It also does that for 2 channels imitating surround.

So you have to listen and see if all 6 sounds are from distinct speakers (assuming your soundbar has enough distinct speakers to imitate 5.1, which obviously yours does or you wouldn't be trying to use it).

The fact the subwoofer sounded different is the key giveaway it was 2 channels repeating the 6 sounds in various ways, as the left and right speakers were trying to imitate the sub.

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JaxonH

Incredible deal on Drop's Sennheiser PC38X wired gaming headset. MSRP $180. But it's on sale for $116.10

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Comes with built in mic. I own this headset. It's better than any wireless headset you can find, just on account of being wired. But I will say I think the Sennheiser 560S are better. Then again, they're $200 and don't have a mic. So, you get what you pay for.

But for this price, I don't think you'll find a better headset.

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NintendoDad

@JaxonH

RE: 6 sounds vs 2 channels . . .

Maybe yes, maybe no.

On my game room TV, which only supports 2 channels, when I would force surround sound on the Switch and tried the test, I would only get 2 sounds. The front 2 speakers and that was it. Just silence for everything else. When I put the Switch into auto, it would then simulate everything through the 2 channels of our game room TV.

But on my sound bar (which is hooked up to our TV room TV), when I forced surround sound, all 6 channels of sound made it to the sound bar.

I am assuming that when you force Switch to do surround sound (and not select auto or stereo) that it would not switch back to 2 channels. If that is the case, then plugging the Nintendo Switch directly into the sound bar seems like the simplest way to get the surround sound signal to get to the sound bar.

As for my sound bar, it actually has 6 speakers. (I just looked that up to learn more about it. LOL.) 2 tweeters, 2 mid range and 2 bass. So I am assuming that the 5 channels are getting played or simulated through what the sound bar is using as "front speakers". And the .1 is being pushed through the 2 bass speakers in the sound bar. (It is a Yamaha YAS-107).

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JaxonH

@NintendoDad
Only you'll be able to tell by listening whether it's truly playing out of 6 distinct channels. But ya, if you know what it sounds like when 2 channels emulates all 6 sounds, then you know what to look for. When that happens, the bass will always be silent or sound off as the L/R speakers try to hit those low frequencies. So if the bass sounds off or different in the test, I'd be suspicious at the very least.

But, if you're sure it's working properly, that's awesome. Personally, I wouldn't trust anything not running directly into the soundbar for Switch since all reports have concurred it doesn't work passing through TV (which has also been true for me), combined with the sound test bass being different. But... if you're sure it's working correctly, then run with it.

I'm not sure how surround works with your 6 speaker setup, since 2 are center speakers, 2 are tweeters and 2 are lower frequency speakers handling bass. I think my soundbar has 13 speakers in it. 5 tweeters, 6 long throw woofers and 2 center speakers for mids. When I run the test it does the center two, then left woofers, right woofers, left tweeters, right tweeters, and then the subwoofer since I have one hooked up. But with your setup, it seems like it would have to duplicate somewhere. Just not sure where.

Anyways though. Good to hear you have it working.

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NintendoDad

RE: Run with it . . .

Well. This was just an experiment. I just wanted to see how it would work. This reminded me that I wanted to get an extra dock for our TV room so we could easily plug in the Switch in the TV room when we want. But I'm just too cheap! LOL.

I was just curious if the sound bar would get all signal channels, which it looks like it does. More so than our game room TV that only played 2 of the 6 sounds.

So that is about it for me with playing around with the Nintendo Switch and digital / surround sound. (Unless something breaks down and I decide to buy something new. LOL.)

I'm pretty happy I spent the time to play around with it to try to maximize what I already got.

Switch is set up as best I can in the game room. I realized that if I leave an extra HDMI cable plugged into the sound bar, and an extra USB-C charging cable in the TV room, I can quickly just grab the Switch dock from the game room and plug it into the TV-room TV.

HDMI extractor is hooked up to my workshop computer and now I can get really loud audio from my workshop computer. Great for hearing shows over the sound of the furnace / AC. LOL.

And I've got a couple of experiments coming in to see if I can get surround sound out of the PC to the 21-year-old surround sound system in the game room for Netflix and Disney+.

Other than reading up a bit about eARC, I think that is it for me for a while as far as HDMI and surround sound goes. LOL.

Thanks for all the help! It's been a lot of reading and learning . . . but I think I am better prepared for when our TV and sound bars start to go and I have to start thinking about what's next! LOL.

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JaxonH

@Wavey84
I kinda feel like I was the same way, which is why I avoided wired for so long.

But honestly it's not that bad. My G6 DAC/AMP is on the bottom shelf of the entertainment stand, in between the PS5 on the left, and the PC on the right which sits on the floor next to the entertainment stand.

When not using my 800S I keep them coiled up and set on the bottom entertainment stand shelf directly between the G6 and PS5. So no wires on the floor. And when I use it, I'm only 6 feet away in a recliner, so it's no big deal to stretch across the floor when using. The 10 ft cable has enough slack for a 6 ft distance that it comfortably reaches. Then I just coil back up when done.

But lately I've just been playing Switch Lite in handheld mode with the Hifiman Aryas using a little 3 foot cable. The Aryas were SO uncomfortable though. I ended up buying a 4 pack of leather Dekoni Nuggets, peeling the adhesive off 3 of them, and sticking them to the underside of the headband. It makes them look even more goofy when using but it works. Problem was, how long before they get knocked off? So I bought an Arya headband quilt off aliexpress (or was it eBay? Can't remember) which had the special shape of the headband, and buttoned up around the headband and attached Nuggets, which not only ensures they're not going anywhere, the cloth added even more padding and height to the point they're SUPER comfy to wear now.

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Joeynator3000

...Honestly I never figured out how to get "pseudo" surround sound on my Switch either...lol.

You know...stereo but with all speakers. xD
I figured that would be better than nothing, lol

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
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Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Joeynator3000

NintendoDad

@Joeynator3000

RE: You know...stereo but with all speakers. xD I figured that would be better than nothing, lol

I am only getting 2 channel PCM to my surround sound system (because it's old. LOL.)

But . . . when I have "surround sound" turned on on my surround sound system amplifier, the system outputs a bit of sound to the rear speakers.

Also if I enable DSP (digital signal processing) mode on on my surround sound amplifier.

It is only receiving 2 channels, but using the rear speakers to make it sound a bit more thick.

NintendoDad

NintendoDad

UPDATE: Netflix + Disney+ to old surround sound system.

So, just a quick update to this thread . . . RE: Me trying to squeeze more life out of my old surround sound system.

Issue: My old surround sound system is old. It only has RCA (Coaxial) and Optical input. No HDMI input. And is an old system, so old Dolby Digital (AC3?) and DTS.

Well. I happened to have an old PC that had an optical out on the motherboard itself. LOL. I never noticed it before. But I hooked up the PC directly to my old surround system with an optical cable and ran Netflix and Disney+.

And . . . the surround sound system says it is getting LPCM. But it is not showing that all speakers are being used. But . . . all speakers are firing. Voices are going to the center channel. There is unique sound going to the rear speakers.

So . . . I can watch Netflix and Disney+ movies with surround sound with my ancient surround sound system. LOL.

Although old, my surround sound system is not quite ready for the dump. LOL.

But . . . still no surround from the Switch.

NintendoDad

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